Richard Cranium needs to jump into the oven with Ahso Mr. Joe.
It sounds to me as if Republicans are promising to support Sen. Lieberman in 2012 for President if he'll just help to kill the healthcare legislation. For them, this is about stopping Obama's momentum, not about people. Lieberman has flip-flopped like a mackerel for years so who knows what he'll do. The President shouldn't count on him and neither should voters.
After all, Lieberman just killed the Medicare age changes that he has advocated for years! Why would he do that unless the Republican leadership has made promises to support him?
Without the "PUBLIC OPTION" there is no HEALTH REFORM, the cost
of Health Insurance will go drastically up.
"Only 14 percent of senior citizens think they would be helped by the bill. Among people under 50, that rises to 26 percent."
The idiotic democrats should never be elected into office again. They could care less what the people really want. This is what happens when you elect lunatics like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid into office and when you elect a third-world raised socialist dictator-wannabe like Barry Hussein Obama.
Who cares anymore? I hope they call this plan the Joe Liberman's Free Handout to Big Insurance Act of 2010. A mandate for us to buy insurance without any protection from the insurance companies is probably against the law. But it's going to take money to fight it, a lot of money, and we all know now who will win. At least the yearly fine for not buying their crappy products only equals about one month's premium payment.
Without the "PUBLIC OPTION' there is no Health Reform.
The cost of Health Insurance will go drastically higher.
Good Job, Senator Stabenow! Shut this Republican Hack up! What about the poor taxpayers continuing to pay for the killing in your Republican started WARS? What about saving their lives from abortion and then they get to go live in poverty to grow up to fight your dirty, little filthy wars for Profits!? I can see right through this and the rest of these awful people – leftover dinosaurs from the 50's! All these want to do is obstruct anything to help the American people struggling to survive. And this is American Democracy? NO WAY! This is pure unregulated laissez fair capitalism and Predation!
More like the "Shock Doctors" Gone Wild! (Naomi Klein). Fund WARS and SCREW American citizens! You guys have some serious Hatred going on! Keep on, Debbie. We need to kill this thing as Howard Dean has said! Bob Dylan, "...and I see through your eyes like I see through the water that runs down my drain..." Masters of War!
Hatch is a spokesman for big insurance, he could care less about the average american and should be voted out of office for the betterment of the American people. He continues to offer no solutions to any problems facing Americans today. His party brought the country to the brink of collapse.Why does cnn cover this two faced liar?
Sometimes i wonder what exactly the repubs are up to because the 8 years they had both the white house and the senate,it was alright for republican president to spend aimlessly with total support of senate repubs, on wars,doling out money to the corporate world...it's a'right ,now that the present president wants to do something that will affect most americans though most of which are struggling then it's a waste....GOD will punish everyone of these hyprocates. let me hear someone say AMEN
This is beautiful. Sen. Stabenow says Rs won't engage; Sen Hatch points out they've been excluded. Then she says people don't care if it's bipartisan. Then she counters with "not the numbers I've seen" in response to Sen. Hatch pointing out that the CBO scoring shows premiums will go up and there will be no reduction of costs. Did she get double-secret numbers from the CBO that are the "real" numbers? Why won't she share?
Joe Lieberman bought and paid for by the health insurance industry. I hope he has no plans to run for a higher office. His actions in killing any meaningful reform of this vampiric industry should make all those children who died because of a lack of adequate health care in this "civilized" nation turn over in their graves!
It really comes down to whether or not we agree with Communism and Social control largely by democrats, or freedom that our founding fathers instilled in us, and which is the basis of why our country is the greatest country in history.
Once the rules of one sixth of our economy dramatically change and the democrats decide to ignor the will of the people, and decide to instead cram this down our throat, it will be an uphill battle to remove the scars they inflict upon our great country, not to mention the great deal of harm financially through higher costs and higher taxes.
what is to square off, idiots...don't you care Americans suffering...thugs...just pass with public opiton...ok, we need it...robbing, robbing robbing....
The entire healthcare debate is misguided.
The health insurance industry as a whole had a profit margin of a paltry 3.4%.
So for your $10,000 health insurance, only $340 is going to profit for the health insurers.
The problen is not the cost of health insurance, the source of the problem is the cost of health CARE overall.
Senator Hatch, when you complain about not being involved in negotiations you should remember that when starting to negotiate you can't take everything off the table! It seems to me that all the Republican party is doing is trying to impede anything the president is doing and complaining that they do not have a voice at the table. If you want a voice don't refuse to talk because you don't agree with everything before you sit down. Sounds like the Bush doctrine still lives.
While they go "Tit for Tat, while they fiddle, while they bicker back and forth, citizens are dying, going backrupt, losing health insurance, homes and all means of caring for themselves and family. While life in this country used to be all about country and family, it appears now that it is all about who can do the most for the survival of "Big Business" and the citizens that elected our representatives have become the source of feed for "Big Business" I wonder what they will do when all of their source of food (The American Citizen) has been devoured. I wonder if big Industries will go and take over China or maybe a smaller nation like the Philippines. We are in a sad state of affairs when many of our representatives have become Senators and Members of the House that represent the "State of Aetna", other states with Insurance sounding names or the country of Pharma.
Reconciliation now. Then do the same for energy, immigration, or any other issue facing the senate. Get things done now. The hell with Lieberman, blue dogs, republicans. either help or go home.
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore! PASS HEALTHCARE REFORM!
Let's start a movement. Get on Twitter, email your elected officials, email the Whitehouse.
I really feel sorry for Michigan. Their senator is about to vote in favor of placing another massive tax on the businesses and people of Michigan; another nail in Michigan's economy.
Vote her out asap.
I look forward to the next election so I can make it possible a new bunch squares off and not these rooted crooks we have.
The only question is who will make more money with the Dems healthcare bill (if one really exists) the insurance industry or the drug makers. They both will reap huge profits.
Who did you say that the insurance industry owned?
If the CBO is the one source that both sides keep referencing for how much this Healthbill will cost and neither side is aware of the 'correct' number, then WHY on God's green earth would we move forward with this so quickly? Why ram it down our throats without at least agreeing on the cost? It's an "act now, think later' mentality by the Dems. This is too big of an issue to be so flippant about.
Guys like Howard Dean need to stop flapping their gums and let their congeressional counterparts getthe best measure they can. It does no good to "fight" for a better bill when the votes just aren't there. Exactly how do they propose to "fight" a Joe Lieberman or Olympia Snowe into voting yes? Get the bill through and signed. It will be a darn sight better than what we've got and then go out and get more progressives elected to improve it if you think you have the right arguments.I'm as ticked at Joe as anyone, but you have to deal with "conditions on the ground".
Medicare cost seniors at least $98/month for 80% coverage. AARP charges $118/month to cover the remaining 20%. They are robbing our seniors and the Democrats are right there with them.
Tell me again how charging a 40% tax on high end health plans reduces the cost of premiums? How does that make it easier for those people to afford their coverage?
If you think businesses go overseas now wait until some of these health care taxes and cap-and-trade begin.
The Reid bill has nothing to do with health care and everything to do with control.
What is annoying to me is that the pompous blowhards in the Senate are posing as statesmen when they are clearly divided into three groups:
1. Conservatives, whose income stream from the health industry is just too tantalizing to refuse. They don't give a crap if kids are dying in the streets – IF they could get reelected anyway.
2. Professional Democrats, who have a very nice job with terrific benefits, huge status, and endless applause. They just want to be reelected. They don't want to go back to selling sheetrock.
3. A dozen Senators who would like to see Americans happier, healthier, and more prosperous. They are all Democrats at the moment because that kind of attitude is not welcome in the Republican Party at the moment.
Applauding a Senator is sort of like humoring your grandfather who has alzheimer's.