December 17th, 2009
02:16 PM ET
3 months ago

Victory by Democrats on health care could turn sour

Washington (CNN) – Democrats in Congress, already worried about their dim prospects in the 2010 midterm elections, have been thrown in a tizzy about something else that could reduce their majority: retirements.

They are four departures down and worried about more members leaving districts that have grown more competitive. And they're right to be concerned: Districts without any incumbent running often wind up switching to the other party.

But there's much more to worry about. Consider the results of a recent "open seat" special election for the state senate in a Democratic district in rural eastern Kentucky: Republican Jimmy Higdon beat the Democrat Jodie Haydon by tying him to, of all things, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats.

"Congress is out of control," one effective ad intoned, "and [Haydon] will bring Nancy Pelosi's one-party control of government to Frankfurt."

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  1. strong

    Health care? What health care? A misnomer to the Nth degree.

    December 17, 2009 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  2. Party Purity will never bring Political Power!

    I agree.

    How can this bill mandate insurance coverage without a public option to compete?

    95% of families do not have health insurance now due to cost. How is making them buy at existing prices or face a fine, even feasible?

    If you drop the public option you have to drop the mandate.

    I would say pass anything thru the Senate just to get it to conference, but I am afraid the Dems would back down again and the merged bill would still not have a public option.

    It is time to let it go and admit the cons have won and 45,000 Americans lose, again.

    December 17, 2009 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  3. normajean

    The Repubs have fought very hard to sink the Democrats attempts to formulate a national health care plan and have at least made the plan less likely to succeed, but I have one question, if this plan fails completely,may we assume that every and all Republicans in the entire nation are all covered with good health care? Or perhaps by helping to down the Democrats plan they have in essence left a very large number of Republican voters also without health insurance?Does this make one think that this might affect a lot of votes in 2010?

    December 17, 2009 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  4. Joe

    Let's vote these "other people's money spender" out next election!

    December 17, 2009 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  5. Henry Miller, Libertarian

    Americans are finally catching on that there are worse things than war-mongering, self-righteous, neo-cons: Arrogant Liberals who want to take every available dime in taxes and micro-manage the lives of mere citizens because, after all, ordinary people aren't bright enough to make their own decisions.

    At least war-mongering neo-cons do their damage in places a long way away and screw with citizens' lives at least a little less than the Libs do. Libs, on the other hand, raise havoc right here at home, trying to force people in to or out of various kinds of government-approved health care plans. Planning to force people into doing things about "global warming," and costing them a bundle in the process, even they don't buy into the "global warming" nonsense.

    Fundamentally, Libs have very little but contempt for the average citizen, and it shows. And people don't like to be held in contempt, especially by those lowest of the low, politicians.

    December 17, 2009 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  6. Mark

    The only thing Democrats are worried about is winning. They do nothing with the majority they have. They can't even get meaningful healthcare reform passed. All the Dems are is GOP light. As far as I'm concerned, screw them all. This country is going to hell in a hand basket due to greed and corruption. Both parties are as dirty as the bottom of a pit latrine.

    I'm not a teabagger as I think they are Satan incarnate. I'm tired of Congress and the Corporations putting the meat to middle America. They must think we are stupid. We aren't, we maybe lazy because we have sent them all to defeat, but one day maybe we can clean house and elect people who care more about the country than money. I don't care whether I agree with them or not as long as they are honest in their beliefs.

    I think it's time we took over the election process and allowed only so much public money for the campaign and no donations. Maybe then we'd get people who would work for us.

    December 17, 2009 02:34 pm at 2:34 pm |
  7. GOP oppression victim

    Who cares what Kentucky does in their state senate?! Pelosi this Pelosi that...all the GOP does is try to blame her for everything. The Republicans ran the White House and Congress from 2001 – 2006 leaving the nation in a mess.

    December 17, 2009 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  8. Dominican Mama 4 Obama (the real one)

    What a bunch of Nervous Nellies. I might be a Democrat but I swear I must have Rethug tendencies because you've got to have COJONES to be in politics and these days Dems seem to have theirs out on loan. You've got enough on your plate to worry about, without borrowing from "what could be".

    NOTE TO DEMOCRATS: What the hell are you afraid of? If you focused on doing what is RIGHT versus what is RIGHT FOR YOU you wouldn't find yourselves in these self-created quandries. You'd be of one mind and would be able to withstand and fight back your opponents. But you guys are all about YOU. That's why you're tripping all over each other, spinning in circles, losing what counts and clutching what's useless. It's a freaking shame!!

    December 17, 2009 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  9. T'SAH from Virginia

    SO WHAT!!!

    Everyone is making a BIG DEAL over the REPUKES getting back some senate seats!! What is it going to prove??? Right NOW they are voting for NOTHING – when they get in office, they will still vote for NOTHING!! NOTHING from NOTHING leaves NOTHING!!! And, NOTHING will get done – Case and Point!!

    The RepubliCAN’Ts really believe they will get something done when more come to the WH?? They still won’t have the Majority!!! And the American people don’t forget either – We do not want MORE of the SAME from the BUSHwack and CHENgang Posse that screwed us up in the first place!!

    December 17, 2009 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  10. Alan

    Yes - and if they all keep pushing for "health care" reform over "Health Insurance" reform, they will ALL be "retired" next term.

    They need to stand up and support Obama's policies. When things keep turning around as they have been their seats will be reassured.

    Waffle and we ALL leave their side.

    December 17, 2009 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |
  11. Fair is Fair

    2010 can't get here soon enough.

    Libs can call the GOP the "party of no" all they want – but it's the VOTERS who are going to tell the democrats "NO".

    And really, that's all that matters.

    December 17, 2009 02:52 pm at 2:52 pm |
  12. Obama 2.0

    Victory on HC will turn sour alright... For the GOP not Dems. Lack of victory will be sour for Dems & the GOP :)

    December 17, 2009 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  13. Liberla wingnut

    Moderate democrats will be fine as for the left wing Obama Pelosi wing nuts they are out.

    December 17, 2009 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  14. Edwin

    So... is the article on health care legislation being bad? That's what the title implies, but I think the article really says that democrats might lose some seats in Congress. This isn't really surprise, controversy, or even proof of anything. Of course the dems will lose some seats. The economy is bad, so the party in power will suffer. And Americans often have "buyer's remorse" about a new president, so that tends to pull against the dems as well. But none of this is new.

    December 17, 2009 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  15. once upon a horse

    if this situation does turn sour for the Democrats, they have no one to blame but themsleves. From past experience they should have known that they would get little to NO help from the Republicans to pass helathcare, and the GOP beat them to the punch by getting out negative material and going to the somewhat uneducated portion of their base to spread the half-truths and non truths. As many negative forums, marches, and ads I have seen about healthcare reform, I have seen very little positive things about it. Where are the folks marching FOR healthcare reform? Where are all the ads promoting this? Where are the folks that claim they are in favor of reform to counter the tea-party marchers? The GOP does what it does best....use fear and mis information to get what they want. The poor Dems haven't learned how to play the game yet.

    December 17, 2009 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  16. Steph

    We need reform! If you don't get this done soon, you will pay! I won't vote for any obstructionists, but I also won't vote for someone who doesn't have the backbone to see this through to the end. The American people are counting on the Democrats to get this done.

    December 17, 2009 03:07 pm at 3:07 pm |
  17. mjm

    The problem with having a super majority? Nowhere to hide.

    They wrote the $787 stimulus bill that did nothing other than spend $787, they wrote the health care bill all by themselves and they can't even get it passed. They promised free health care for all....never going to happen.......Unemployment is over 10%.

    Great job Dems! People have seen enough.

    At this rate we'll have republican control for 100 years.

    December 17, 2009 03:08 pm at 3:08 pm |
  18. buckeye

    Without a public option, this is just massive corporate welfare and will make our country, people and health care system sicker than ever.

    December 17, 2009 03:13 pm at 3:13 pm |
  19. Hugo

    Now watch America as the Democraps party dissolves, you will be witness to history as both the Republicans and Democrats try and redefine what they are and what their platform encompasses. It use to be you could be a Democrat without being subjected to the Socialist and Marxist views of the few, just like it use to be you could be a Republican without being subjected to the views of the religious right zealots... This is a great time to be alive as long as you were fiscally responsible and saves some soon to be useless "US dollars" that is! I believe the US dollar has been devalued by around 52% since Mr. Obama and the Dumbocrats have taken office....man of the year my arse!

    WATCH THE VOTER REVOLUTION IN 2010 AND 2012!

    December 17, 2009 03:16 pm at 3:16 pm |
  20. Jane/Seattle

    It will "turn sour" IF WE Don't get an ALTERNATIVE to Insurance Companies with a choice of a Public Option. This Public Option or Medicare Option ARE the Only Factors that could put these PROFITEERS in CHECK! IF They keep that Mandatory Clause in this thing to FORCE Further Profits to their Friends, I personally WILL REVOLT! STOP WARFARE AND FUND HEALTHCARE!

    December 17, 2009 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  21. SocialismBad

    Feature of Coming Attractions! Full Cleanup to be released Nov. 2010!!

    Obama thinks the bankers just don't "get it", but it is the Democrats that are completely oblivious to the tsunami they are creating across the USA. Many Democratic incumbents will be swept out to sea by the American people. It is the ONLY way to stop the madness that has overtaken these drunken sailors.

    December 17, 2009 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  22. Melissa

    The ones out of control are the hate mongering Republicans.

    December 17, 2009 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  23. Pragmatic

    However .... it will be a very narrow slate of republican candidates ... since republicans running have to sign the republican revision of the original 10 Commandments ... their 10 point "Purity Pledge" ....

    Palin quit her elected job, Pawlenty doesn't stay home long enough to be governor of his state ... relax ... people remember that although the republicans love to "win" – they are unable to govern once elected ...

    December 17, 2009 03:29 pm at 3:29 pm |
  24. Franky, Land of Lincoln

    I agree, when an issue or a statement is not framed right or accordingly, people won't take risks or chances. But if its explained thoroughly and appropriately, then maybe we will take a chance but in Health Care, we are just way off.

    I think no matter what happens to Health Care, is gonna stick with the Dems. The damage is done, they've been teaching and preaching how it can affect an individual. And they try too. Like saying it can help the deficit in the long run, save us some money, have affordable insurance for people who need it, etc. I think those are fine, they are but even we like things slow and relax, not desperate and unpredictable.

    I have no idea what's gonna happen or what is presume to happen, I can guess but I have a pretty good idea who will win the 2010 elections. Well, based on which party will win or has the more momentum. And I agree with the GOP badass, we don't mind government if they believe it can help everybody but we don't like out of balance and effort. If this issue is going to be socially exchanged, then is gonna take a whole lot of effort that's for sure.

    For starters, both parties are not interdependent so let's not pretend they are getting something out of it. Yes, for their own political and ambitious goals but for our country, is not even close. Is true, we want results but sometimes the best results are often the ones that we can't fix. This issue will and can take a while.

    No matter what, Dems are screwed. They should have seen this coming, they should have. But is not like the GOP has it easy. They too have problems and need a leader to showcase their motto and identity. After two years, they still have an idendity crisis. Dems, also have one as well but as a whole(country), we are just fed up with it.

    Who knows, we'll see.

    December 17, 2009 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  25. sifto77

    can't wait for 2010–we will finally be rid of the Pelosi-Reid leadership of the USA. there appears to be no leadership at the white house.

    December 17, 2009 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
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