Washington (CNN) – Although the overall health care reform bills passed by the House of Representatives and the Senate are unpopular, many of the provisions in the existing bills are extremely popular, even among Republicans, according to a new national poll.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Wednesday also indicates that only a quarter of the public want Congress to stop all work on health care, with nearly three quarters saying lawmakers should pass some kind of reform.
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Twenty-five percent of people questioned in the poll say Congress should pass legislation similar to the bills passed by both chambers, with 48 percent saying lawmakers should work on an entirely new bill and a quarter saying Congress should stop all work on health care reform.
"Many provisions of those bills are popular, particularly restrictions on health insurance companies," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Roughly 6 in 10 would like a bill that prevents insurers from dropping people who become seriously ill or denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. Seven in 10 favor requiring large and mid-sized companies to provide health insurance to their employees. Those proposals are popular among Republicans as well as Independents and Democrats. A cap on medical malpractice awards – something on the GOP's wish list that is not in the current legislation – is also popular."
According to the survey, Americans are split on a public option, and they don't like the idea of requiring everyone in the U.S. to have health insurance. The poll's release comes one day before a critical televised health care summit hosted by President Obama that will include top Congressional Democrats and Republicans.
The survey indicates nearly half of all Democrats say Congress should pass legislation similar to the bills passed by both chambers, with nearly 4 in 10 Democrats saying Congress should start from scratch and just 1 in 10 saying lawmakers should stop all work on health care.
A majority of Republicans questioned, 54 percent, want Congress to start from scratch, with just under 4 in 10 saying lawmakers should halt work on health care reform and just 6 percent saying Congress should pass into law the current legislation.
Fifty-two percent of Independents want Congress to start work on a new bill, with 27 percent saying lawmakers should stop all work, and 18 percent saying that the current legislation should be passed into law.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted February 12-15, with 1,023 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the overall survey.
Yet republican and democrat senators and representatives can't simply extract these worthwhile provisions and pass a bill today that would deal with this. The stupidity of our egocentric government makes me wonder how our politicians remember to breath. This all or nothing, with us or against us crap makes a playground dispute over who gets to use the see-saw look intelligent.
This shouldn't be about winning, inflated egos,left or right. I'll just keep voting against the incumbent until these idiots get it right. Good luck with the independent vote come November.
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Sounds about right. In fact, sounds just about perfectly analogous to most of America's thinking in terms of the government taking action and being involved. Just look at how they behave in terms of "pork," i.e., "everyone else's pork is bad, but my pork is good." As with that, so with this:
"I like tort reform because my ex-wife's divorce lawyer took me to the cleaners, but I hate entitlement programs because I don't need them, so anyone supporting the subsidies for poor folks is a dope smoking oprah watcher"
"I like removing the antitrust exceptions and preventing the pre-existing conditions loopholes because those are common sense reforms, but I hate tort reform because I took my doctor to the cleaners when my sutures got infected"
Yeah yeah. Shut up. We get it. You're gonna like some of it, but not all of it. That's called compromise. Accept it...because guess what? If we only passed bills through Congress for which we've removed all provisions that a minority of the population doesn't like, Congress would be pushing around blank pages all day. That is precisely the situation created by the power giant corporations and industries wield through lobbyists. For some, like the Teatards, who think no government is better than an active, involved government, blank pages would be their wet dream. For those of us living in reality, it's just not a practical option. Blank paper is for wiping.
I think all the Congress and Senate votes and debates ought to be filmed like the one tomorrow. I am sick of Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans who have no one, but their own interest in mind. We have voted for the public option and no one will listen. We want healthcare reform. The Republicans keep referencing, "The people don't want this". Where do they get that? All the polls say we do want a strong healthcare reform that includes public option. I would prefer single payer. I am feeling like no one is representing me. Our president is trying, but, he cannot do it alone.
About 5% of the population identify themselves as Liberal (better know as The American Al Queda). They are also extremely unpopular
And before you paid knuckle draggers jump on the blog, I suggest you go to WhiteHouse.gov and actually read the proposed bill. It is under Issues then Health Care then click on the link. There is even a tab label "Republican Ideas". For definition of "tab" and hands on instruction see your nearest 8 year old, unless of course, that 8 year old is in any way genetically linked to you. This includes your sister's kids which might also be one of yours. Just to be safe, better stay away from any "brothers" or "sisters" as well.
Wow, those 3 days of Obama bashing by CPAC, were just a primer to the new discussion format! I hope I am a quick study!
There it breaks out which Red ideas were included in the original bills passed by Congress, such as tort reform and all of the 9 new ones that President Obama has included in his proposal.
Then you will not embarrass yourself by getting on an international blog whining about no tort reform, blah, blah, blah.
I know it is easier to get the talking points from Fake the News and it does make you look even more stupid than you would normally, so all is not lost.
As I have said before, your entitled to your Fake "opinion" but to your own set of "facts"..
Only the States have the right under the Constitution to make health care plans...if only the President and legislaters were lawyers...oh wait, they are....umm if only they were able to READ......oh they can...as long as it's pork...never mind.....
Congress Is Looting Federal Worker, Military Retirement Funds, Says William Fruth, Founder of 10 Amendments for Freedom ... check into this
I wonder if the mouth breathing conservatives thinks this poll is a lie also, even though CNN has favorable opinons regarding Rubulican ideas? Anyway, as an true Independant, not a nutcase conservative or liberal pretending to have independent thought, most of this health insurance (because this bill does not begin to address HEALTHCARE reform) bill is crappy. First off, the notion of making people get health insurance is absurb. Offer affordable insurance to people and let them decide if they want it or not. If they don't, when they show up for medical care, turn them away, period. I know that is not a popular position but what the Republican party nor the Democrat Party is saying is that many people could have affordable insurance already and refuse to get it because they rather buy the latest designer clothes, cars they cannot afford etc rather than get medical insurance. I personally know 10 people here in Houston that have great jobs making $50,000 plus that don't have medical insurance that their company offers due to they rather spend their money on meaningless crap. Sure I would love to keep that $170 per pay check in my pocket, but make no mistake, if something happens to me, my wife or my son, we are covered minus the small co-pays. We are fortunate that all we ever had to use my insurance for is routine care but it is nice to know if something catastrophic happens, we can pay for our care. Hey CNN do a poll on that.! How many people have access to insurance coverage but reuse to get it. That's what I want to see. One more thought, Republicans, get that Malpractice payout cap provision in there, it makes no sense that people can win multi million dollor settlements for someones mistake. Don't get me wrong, people should pay for their mistakes but if a doctor or hospital kills my wife or son, what is 20 million dollors going to do. If you want to make it fair for the plantiffs, ensure that the hospital system or doctor is never able to provide Medical Care in the United States ever again. Takinf large amount s of money that they can in turn make again does not solve the problem.
Pass Mr. Obama's compromise. Then give us a Public Option through reconciliation. It's the ONLY way (short of single payer) that the private (i.e."for profit) insurers will ever get serious about lowering costs and providing better service,
So forty-eight percent of the public wanted the health care bill currently proposed scrapped. I'm sure President Obama, in his infinite wisdom, will understand that they just hadn't read his plan yet and when they do, they'll just wet their pants in joy over its beauty.
Oops, it's basically the same as the bill they hate, only more expensive. Darn, that means the Campaigner in Chief needs to make another speech to better educate them on how great the plan and its increased government bureauracy are and to bash big insurance as the root of all evil in the world..
I think that the proposal that the President has proposed is a good starting point. Seems Americans agree with at least 80% of his provisions. Let's see what the Republicans can ad to the pot on behalf of the American people not the insurance executives. Can"t wait until Thursday.
We need to pass this quickly. There are 20 million illegal aliens in dire straits.
"...many of the provisions in the existing bills are extremely popular, even among Republicans..."
If this is TRUE, then what are the RepubliCAN'Ts complaining about????
how is this conclusion possible?
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There's a lot to not like about the health care reform bill and important measures that are missing. There needs to be a public option and the anti-abortion measures should be removed. There shouldn't be any mandates forcing people to buy insurance and taxes on people getting good insurance deals should be removed. Additionally, the insurance companies should be subject to the same anti-trust laws as any other company. In short, what they've got needs to be more progressive.
We need health care reform and the money being spent to prevent reform proves there are excessive profits in our current system. Reform should start with a goal and I propose the following; Every citizen should have the same coverage that is available to members of congress at the same percentage of income. The base pay for a member of congress is $174,000 a year. The most popular health care plan available to all government workers is the popular Blue Cross and Blue Shield standard fee-for-service family plan. It carries a total premium of $1,120.47 per month, of which the beneficiary pays $356.59.. This is about 2.5% of a congressman's base salary. I am sure most American families would be very happy to pay 2.5% of their income for a health care plan that covers with low deductables and co pays, hospital, surgical and physician services, and mental health services, prescription drugs and "catastrophic" coverage against very large medical expenses. There are no waiting periods for coverage when new employees are hired, and there are no exclusions for preexisting conditions.
The government health care program is not centralized, government-run health care. It has drawn praise both from conservatives and liberals, including President Obama, who held it up as a model for his own health care proposals. We need to send a message to congress that we are demanding the same basic coverage they have at the same reasonable percentage of income.
America is the only industrialized nation on this planet without universal healthcare, and the reason? Because that's how Big Pharma and the Insurance monopolies want it. Remember how everyone complained about how expensive American made care were because of the health care costs? Well, this would have negated that arguement (before they could scare you about the unions). We as Americans have ALWAYS found the best way to do things. I believe that if we studied the other systems we could find a way to improve them and make them our own. Your taxes probably wouldn't go up (unless you're one of the .5% who make over $250,000 a year), but the money that is currently coming out of your paycheck to pay for some CEO's $5,000,000 bonus would be coming out to make sure you and your family could see a doctor at the time you wanted to see them, instead of having to wait until (God forbid) it might be too late.
I think a more accurate heading for this CNN report would be to say 'Some health care provisions are popular in the overall unpolular bills'.
There are any number of parts a majority of voters do not like and it is less than honest to cherry pick the popular parts as an agrument to pass the bills as a whole and not start over.
I was glad to see in the USA Today also published a poll on a parts break down. The results were very interesting. Things are more clear if you look at the whole picture.
The USA Today poll shows about a half dozen popular major parts getting an average of about 60% support with 67% being the highest.
It also shows only 42% support the bills as a whole. That leaves 58% who do not support the bill as a whole.
It also shows only 22% support requiring people to buy insurance or pay a fine and only 19% support the nearly 1 trillion dollar cost over 10 years. I'm pretty sure that there are a number of other parts that would get less than 50% support also like some of the tax increases, the mandate for a business to provide insurance, the 500 billion in cuts to Medicare, and the government funding for abortions in the Senate's and Obama's bills. But USA Today did not have any numbers on those.
So if you sort it out.
About 20% support the bills as a whole.
About 22% have mixed feelings but feel the good parts out weigh the bad. This gets you to the 42% who support the bill
About 18% have mixed feelings but feel the bad parts out weigh the good. This gets you to the average of 60% who at least like parts of the bills. I count myself in this group.
That leaves about 40% who don't seem to like much of anything in the bills. My guess some of these people must really like some parts of the bill but must find the bad so bad they just dismiss everything.
So it is really very simple when you look at the whole picture. Even though a majority of voters like some parts of the bills an EVEN LARGER majority don't like other parts. And when the voters add it all up a majority equates the bad stuff out weighs the good stuff. Of course you do not get that picture if you cherry pick out the parts you like and use it for talking points and spin.
Looks like a center right majority of 58% of voters are saying taking away freedom of choice and spending too much for the benefits or spending more than we can afford are show stoppers. Okay, I may be taking liberties assuming all 58% are fiscal conservative, center right, freedom loving patriots. Some of the 58% are probably far left liberal/progressive, nanny state, tax and spend, spend, spend socialists who will settle for nothing less than Universal single payer health care. Even Obama is smart enough to know that won't fly.
Obama and the liberal/progressives will never get it. Liberal/progressives prefer government controls, mandates and regulations over individual freedom and are mentally challenged were money and spending is involved.
Problem is that if you allow force insurance companies to take on people with pre-existing conditions, there is less incentive for people to sign up for health insurance until they are ill. Not everyone of course, because you can always be hit by the proverbial bus, but there would seem to be some effect. So the most effective way to make the insurance for those folks affordable (to them personally or to the government) is to require everyone, including healthy young people, to have insurance. And they should, at a catastrophic level at least (and maybe preventive care), keeping in mind the bus. Unless we are going to find it acceptable to leave uninsured people dying on the threshold of the ER, then someone will pay for that care- meaning that all of us chip in somewhere.
Everyone wants to end pre-existing conditions, and the only way to do that is to insure almost everyone. Get it done, Congress!
This poll appears to have included questions that have greater depth and so have resulted in more reasonab le answers. Unfortunately, most polls have questions that are politically motivated and deliberately engineered to result in a desired response.
Health care is a rite- it ought not be a for profit business strangling the American public.
Go left people, go left. Join the rest of the civilized world.
The only reason why this bill is unpopular is because republicans has worked so hard to scare people. Many who are talking does not even know what is included in the bill because they have not read it.
How can a bill be unpopular when the contents of the bill is popular. This makes no sense.
I say start small, pass the legislation you all can agree on (see, CNN has listed it above for you)....then go to the other stuff...one issue at a time.....let the public absorb it, as well as the poltiicans.... National Health Insurance is doeable...it is the Process of getting there that so many are screwing up on. Get back to co ops...it's cheaper...will work for more people.
Hmmm, well I asked many of my friends and they asked many of their friends, and they all want health care reform any way we can get it. And to all of you rich GOPers, no none of us are on Welfare, so we don't expect free healthcare; however, I don't think this poll is accurate because I was not contacted by a pollester and this poll was conducted a week ago. This is the dawning of a new day and a change is coming and so is health care reform!!!!!