March 4th, 2010
09:00 AM ET
4 years ago

Bachmann, Grayson square off on health care

(CNN) - Reps. Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, and Alan Grayson, D-Florida, engaged in a spirited debate on health care reform Wednesday night on CNN's Larry King Live.

Specifically, the two squared off over whether the tactic of reconciliation - requiring only a simple majority to pass the measure - should be used.

"That's not how the Senate works," Bachmann said. "The Senate works with 60 votes, and now what the president is promoting is a nuclear option which is 50 votes."

Grayson replied: "There's nothing in the Senate rules that prevents reconciliation. It's been used 22 times overall and 14 times by Republicans. If it's good enough to provide tax cuts for the rich - twice under Bush - it's good enough to provide health care for all Americans."


Filed under: Alan Grayson • Michele Bachmann
soundoff (88 Responses)
  1. Sam Sixpack

    When all is said and done, those who shilled for the Health Care scam will be unemployed.

    March 4, 2010 10:07 am at 10:07 am |
  2. Angie in PA

    Bachman please stop insulting the Americans intelligence. THE NUCLEAR OPTION IS NOT RECONCILLATION, Why do the Republicans lie lie lie lie lie and try to insult our intelligence? please folks look up the definition of nuclear option vs reconcillation and you will see Bachman is a LIAR!

    March 4, 2010 10:07 am at 10:07 am |
  3. liberal wingnut

    Yes reconciliation was sued by the GOP congress to pass the balanced budget that gave us the surplus Clinton gets credit for still today.

    March 4, 2010 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  4. stevetall

    Confirming once again that Michelle Bachman is a pinhead without a clue.

    March 4, 2010 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  5. Sam Sixpack

    If you are a director at a pharmaceutical company, or are scheduled to receive a kick-back, this health care scam is a good idea. Otherwise, you will get to watch while the plug is pulled on your grandmother.

    It is encouraging to see those in the media shilling for this scam are steadily loosing audience share.

    March 4, 2010 10:13 am at 10:13 am |
  6. LacrosseMom(the real one)

    Bachman is ignorant and the typical hate,lie,fear & division GOPer. I will not comment on what she said.

    We NEED Healthcare for our citizens! I can not believe that so-called-Christians on the far-right would deny their neighbors healthcare!

    The Republicans are also ranting about homeland security, fearful of a terrorist attack! However, MORE Americans DIE every year from lack of healthcare than died..... on September 11th!

    Republicans decision to oppose healthcare proves that they are hypocrites!

    "Whatsoever you do to the least of these you have done to Me." ~ Jesus (Mat. 25:40 NIV)

    March 4, 2010 10:14 am at 10:14 am |
  7. Kim

    If it's good enough for the republicans to use for the tax cuts for the rich, it's good enough for healthcare for the poor! Classic!!

    March 4, 2010 10:15 am at 10:15 am |
  8. no need to know

    this is a mismatch because M. Bachmann is even in intelligence with Sarah Palin which means no rational at all. So who put her together with him to get embarrassed?

    March 4, 2010 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  9. Dis Gusted

    Grayson is correct. Democrats, pass the bloomin healthcare bill so people in this country can have a life!!! If, in the future, we see there are some things not working, they can be changed so the bill does work for the majority.

    March 4, 2010 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  10. carlos

    watch how these repugnants will ditto the nuclear option hundreds of times.......she is a complete imbecile...what else can be said about this woman, the equal to s.p.

    March 4, 2010 10:19 am at 10:19 am |
  11. Truth Teller

    Grayson 2016!!

    March 4, 2010 10:20 am at 10:20 am |
  12. Angus McDugan

    Grayson is the face of the Democrat party. What a wacko? He is the shock-jock of our government. He knows that bad publicity is publicity non-the-less. Get this tabloid trash mouth out of here.

    I feel for the people of Florida who are represented by this person because it makes you all look very silly.

    March 4, 2010 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  13. Jim Bob

    Man oh man, I just know the good people of Minnesota cringe whenever this Bachmann nut is on any news outlet (except Faux). Honestly, she has that look in her eyes like Charles Manson.

    March 4, 2010 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  14. Truth Matters

    Pres. Obama himself opposed the use of reconcilaition for HCR.

    March 4, 2010 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  15. John, Brooklyn, NY

    As a Democrat, I strongly encourage giving Representative Bauchmann as much air time as possible. Her ideological extremism, her clear lack of compassion for people who are struggling during these tough economic times, and her vacant grasp of the complexities of today's issues sends a clear signal that neither she – nor her Republican colleagues in the House – are "ready for prime time".

    March 4, 2010 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  16. Mike

    Offering to make a democrat's brother a judge in turn for his vote on health care is just another nail in the coffin of those democrats who vote for health care. There needs to be an investigation into the white house offering this vote buy along with the union's not paying taxes on their cadalac health care plans but everyone else will.

    March 4, 2010 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  17. j king

    this is really interesting! is this change you can believe in?whenever they want to do some to their advantage they refer to the bush administration that they did it too! i thought that's what they were running on a 360 degree turn from the bush policies!

    March 4, 2010 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  18. Dave

    Michele Bachmann hit it out of the park! we have witnessed all the special interest backroom deals, vote buying and flat out couruption regarding the shennanigans that have been going on with this heathcare debacle and now the White House has engaged in these same tactics with the brother of a house "NO" vote getting nominated to a federal bench a few hours after the presidents speech, then the "NO" vote house member getting an invite to the White House a few hours after that to try and get him to change his vote. Coincidence? Hardly, smells like a bribe to most of us.

    Same thing happened last week when a specters senate challenger said that the White House offered him a job if he would drop his senate challenge to Specter. Btw, thats illegal.

    March 4, 2010 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  19. Ben

    Grayson is clueless. He needs to go.

    March 4, 2010 10:26 am at 10:26 am |
  20. Pepou

    I wonder on which planet Bachmann is living. This woman is so ignorant and so stupid that she is as laughable as Palin.

    March 4, 2010 10:29 am at 10:29 am |
  21. JohnRJ08

    Bachmann is a semi-literate fool who appeals to the lowest common denominator of the electorate. Clearly, the Senate does NOT work "with 60 votes". That's the whole problem. Nothing is getting done because the Democrats don't vote as bloc, like the Republicans have. It is virtually impossible to get 60 free-thinking politicians to vote in unison on anything. Only Republican political zombies can do that.

    March 4, 2010 10:30 am at 10:30 am |
  22. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder

    Grayson is a buffoon...and is so typical of liberals....absolutely clueless and devoid of reality....very typical.

    March 4, 2010 10:31 am at 10:31 am |
  23. dora

    To Representative Bachmann: the nuclear option was what the Republican Party was threatening in either 2005 or 2006 when the Democratic Party was "holding up" the Supreme Court appointments of Justices Roberts and Alito (they were, you know asking questions, like will you be an activist judge [just so you know, they both said they would adhere to the Constitution-ha!]). At that time, the Republican Party was threatening to do away with the filibuster completely, in order to speed up the appointment process (which is ironic now that they are the ones slowing down all of President Obama's appointments). Reconciliation with a majority vote is Senate law. It has been used many times by both parties, both of the tax cuts for the wealthy during the Bush Administration were passed by reconciliation. The "R" in COBRA, stands for reconciliation. Can some one explain how a receptionist in Ohio knows this and a Congressional Representative in Washington doesn't?

    March 4, 2010 10:31 am at 10:31 am |
  24. daisyinatlanta

    Alan Grayson, go go go.
    i did not know he is so articulate. wowww....

    March 4, 2010 10:32 am at 10:32 am |
  25. The Voice

    Wow! the Rethuglicans really don't paly fair... they have used reconciliation more than bouble than the Democrats, specially Bush to give tax cuts to the rich where not all of Congress approved at the time, that's what started this whole great recession in the first place and the deficit started rising after Clinton left surpluses for the Republicans to blow away.

    Like a teenager with a credit card....yet Amercians are thinking about voting these cronies back?! You got to be kidding me.

    March 4, 2010 10:32 am at 10:32 am |
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