March 17th, 2010
04:36 PM ET
4 years ago

Health care head count: Opponents back to 11 votes shy

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Washington (CNN) - An ongoing CNN survey reveals that 27 Democrats plan to vote against the Senate health care bill as currently written.

Both Democrats and Republicans are racing to the magic number of 216. If supporters of the bill secure 216 'yes' votes, the bill passes; conversely, if opponents secure 216 'no' votes, the bill fails.

If all 178 Republican members vote against the bill as expected, opponents are once again 11 votes short of the 216 needed to kill the bill.

Earlier Wednesday, Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinch of Ohio announced that he will vote in favor of the Senate bill, despite previous statements that he was firmly opposed to the bill. His change in position was offset by other updates confirmed Wednesday by CNN:

- Dennis Kucinich, OH-10, goes from "no" to "yes"

- Mike Doyle, PA-14, moves from "Undecided" to "Yes"

- Steve Dreihaus, OH-01, moves from "undecided" to "No unless modified"

- Ike Skelton, MO-04, moves from "Undecided" to "No"

- Dale Kildee, MI-05, moves from "Has not responded" to "Yes"

-CNN's Dana Bash, Lisa Desjardins, Evan Glass, Alan Silverleib, Deirdre Walsh and Robert Yoon contributed to this report.


Filed under: Democrats • Health care • Health care vote count • House
soundoff (88 Responses)
  1. Primary Opposers

    Let them vote against reform. They will be out of a job in November.

    March 17, 2010 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  2. NC

    Get HCR passed so we can move on.

    March 17, 2010 04:42 pm at 4:42 pm |
  3. Ann

    They should vote Present.. this will keep their good records for future presidency bids.

    March 17, 2010 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  4. gt

    DENNIS your all hot air,,,and all hat... boy can you talk big but ,,, you are all bark... you have lost my respect ..your know differnt from the rest of them...ugh

    March 17, 2010 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  5. Alex in Wisconsin

    I feel sorry for people who expect perfection out of anything coming from congress. This bill doesn't do everything, but it's a starting point. People who want to start moving the country forward will vote yes. the people who want to drag the country backwards will vote no. But if the this vote does get voted down, i expect medicaid and medicare to be on the chopping block next.

    March 17, 2010 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  6. Seth

    President Obama the great hope.. has managed to cause the greatest divide of any single leader in history (except maybe good old Abe).

    We are so divided, and now resentment will set in. The dangerous thing is that most people feel a strong desire to vent their frustration, so
    more problems are coming from this politically inept group of self-serving idealogues. Charity begins at home, stay the hell out of my house DIMS and THUGS!

    March 17, 2010 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  7. save my state.

    Come on don't pass this bill. It's not worth it.

    1. No regualtion on how much insurance companies can charge.
    2. Each state will have to pick up half the cost on the people who just start getting insurance. I don't know about you ,but in my state that will rasie taxes.
    3. The only people who get rich on this bill our the insurance companies.
    4. Medicare will be cut.
    5. More money for people to get abortions

    WITH MY TAX DOLLORS. LET'S FIND SOME OTHER KIND OF BILL.

    March 17, 2010 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  8. Seth

    Most of You don't even know what is in HCR people. With the help of intelligent translators and fine legal minds, you can find out . To be honest though, you have to be intelligent to really understand it.

    Yes... just vote for health care reform. Yes... and one of the days you
    might look in the mirror and figure out that the so called 'government',
    doesn't really exist. It is us dummy. We the people are the workers who pay the taxes who prop up the workers (aka government), who pay
    the taxes, who pick a President, who poops on the people.

    Do you get it yet?

    March 17, 2010 04:58 pm at 4:58 pm |
  9. Richie in Mass

    This bill is so bad they had to attach the Student Loan amendment to it. The reason they do that is because that amendment actually saves money. A requirement for reconciliation. The House healthcare bill costs more than the Senates so they can use reconcilation by itself. It doesn't take a MIT graduate to figure that out. They eliminated the "Cadillac tax" till 2018 and raised the cutoff. That was a large portion of projected revenue and they added more to help poor people get insurance. Both drive the bill up.

    If they do the "Deem" rule or Slaughter rule it will show citizens how bad this bill is that they can't even get their own party to support it. They will pay in November. They will have a better chance with a up or down vote. Remember most people are oposed to this bill from the begining because of the process. Yes people are against it for other reasons but the process is what got people attention with the backroom deals. Imagine how many are being made now?

    March 17, 2010 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |
  10. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    President Obama is the greatest President in American history.

    March 17, 2010 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
  11. Adalbert

    Those dems who are not for health care reform are traitors. They should join the party of NO.

    March 17, 2010 05:04 pm at 5:04 pm |
  12. Marcus Tate

    Anyone who votes for this atrocity should be out of a job come November. Especially if they use slime tactics that do not require a fair vote. I was warned that Obama was a Socialist, and now I wish I had listened....

    March 17, 2010 05:05 pm at 5:05 pm |
  13. Richie in Mass

    Wait till the Republicans get back in power. If this goes through with the Deem or Slaughter rule, the Democrats can't cry ever again about reconcilation or the deem rule again. I might add that Obama himself called reconciliation unconstitutional when the Republicans used it. While the Democrats claim the Republicans used it before they are right but never on a bill that controlled 1/6th of the economy. When the Republicans take control remember this Liberals. Obama is driving a wedge that will take years to remove in this country. People are so divided it's nuts. Just another campaign promise he failed to deliver.

    March 17, 2010 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  14. Tim

    Well I know if my representatives don't vote for this bill, I certainly won't vote for them again. As a matter of fact I will print out hundreds of flyers letting everyone know they helped screw the public.

    March 17, 2010 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  15. Susan

    I hope they get to a vote. From what I'm reading and hearing it's beginning to feel like we don't live in a democracy anymore.

    March 17, 2010 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  16. annie s

    - Ike Skelton, MO-04, moves from "Undecided" to "No"...VOTE HIM OUT!

    March 17, 2010 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  17. Michelle

    Claudia you must be joking!! You've been drinking the Kool-Aid.

    That is so funny that Obama is the greatest President, we'll be lucky if we have a country left when he is out. You watch way too much liberal media and don't look at the true facts of this Presidency. Don't even try the Bush stuff either and the debt he put us in because Obama was there voting on everything that the Dems put up to spend and yes the Dems Pelosi has had control for a few years and boy they spent the money, Bush is not totally at fault because he should have stopped some of the nonsense. But now with Obama its a free for all what gets passed until we get them out!!

    Come on November!!!

    March 17, 2010 05:12 pm at 5:12 pm |
  18. Felly

    The GOP has no morality. How can they claim to be pro-life and when it's time to save life, they vote no. What a bunch of hypocrites! Right now, my car has a better auto insurance than I do in terms of health insurance and skyrocketing premiums. Oh wait! auto insurance is mandatory and we can't mandate American citizens to buy health insurance? Shame on the GOP!

    March 17, 2010 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  19. NC

    The economy and jobs must come first.....throw out this health care bill and start over.......both parties need to work together, in the open and not behind closed doors .....obama certainly is NOT the greatest president in American history......he is most certainly the worst president in American history.......term limits, so that we can vote out the crooks that we voted in the first time, 2 terms and you are OUT........vote Republican in 2010 and 2012....

    March 17, 2010 05:17 pm at 5:17 pm |
  20. Katie

    HCR is needed – public option would have been good – but it's a start. Why are people so afraid to insure our people – it is the right thing to do, the United States should insure it's people. Cost is involved in everything – look at the wars. No one thinks anything of dropping trillions on wars yet there is uproar when we talk of health insurance for all? Thank you Kucinch and Obama for final fightin' the fight.

    March 17, 2010 05:18 pm at 5:18 pm |
  21. Jesus(the Zombie version)

    Please fail this bill. I will be making thousands of dollars when this bill fails and Insurance companies stand to make record profits when they raise premiums again next year.

    Luckily for me the $15K I stand to make will cover the costs of the premium. Also, less polpulation.

    We don't need an extra 18,000 people alive just because they now have HC.

    Say no to this bill: it will lower the US population and the top 1% of Americans will make millions because of it. Now that's true capitalism.

    MONEY > HUMAN LIFE

    March 17, 2010 05:18 pm at 5:18 pm |
  22. Debby

    It doesn't matter if it passes, with most Americans against the bill, the Dems. will be be voted out and then the Repulicans can alter the whole bill by the time it takes effect.

    March 17, 2010 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  23. DK in Alaska

    I am frustrated by all the talk of "starting over" on health care. The republicans have had a chance to participate in democracy. Instead they chose to sink "all things Obama". Their great fear was an articulate, intelligent president who was striving to undo two terms of the Bush presidency.
    Has the American public really forgotten the daunting list of crises that faced President Obama when he entered office? This could have been a chance to pull together as a nation.

    March 17, 2010 05:20 pm at 5:20 pm |
  24. Mike in MN

    This is a terrible bill and should not be passed. If it was not a terrible bill, it would have easly passed long ago.
    It will not bring down the cost of health care. It does nothing to stop the ever increasing cost of health care services that are driving up the cost of insurance premiums. We pay the higest prices in the world for hospital care, physican services and drugs. And the CBO says half the annual increase in health care costs are due to advances in technology. But this terrible just attacks health insurance. Most people just see the cost of their insurance premiums and have no idea about the costs of the medical care that is covered, so Obama attacks the insurance companies because that is the point of sale to consumers.. Health insurance needs some reform, and mush of the needed reform has bipartisan support and would not cost the government anything to enact. But this bill will claim to hold down costs by preventing insurance compainies from increasing their rates, rate increases that are needed to match the increases in the health care costs they have to cover. The goal of this bill is to put insurance companies out of business and move us to what Obama and the progressives wanted from the very start, universal single payer government run health care. Obama is a socialist, pure and simple.
    Fortunatly for America, Obama and the Democrats will be voted out of power in 2010 and 2012 and if Obamacare is passed, voters will ask Republicans to fix the mess in 2012 and give us the kind of health care reform the majority of voters are asking for.

    March 17, 2010 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  25. Albert R. K. . L.A., CA

    The bill will pass and then we can work on improving it with a PUBLIC OPTION, or havent you hear that is what the majority really wants.

    2010, READ MY LIPS, NO NEW CORPORATIST!

    March 17, 2010 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
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