March 17th, 2010
04:36 PM ET
8 years ago

Health care head count: Opponents back to 11 votes shy


Washington (CNN) - An ongoing CNN survey reveals that 27 Democrats plan to vote against the Senate health care bill as currently written.

Both Democrats and Republicans are racing to the magic number of 216. If supporters of the bill secure 216 'yes' votes, the bill passes; conversely, if opponents secure 216 'no' votes, the bill fails.

If all 178 Republican members vote against the bill as expected, opponents are once again 11 votes short of the 216 needed to kill the bill.

Earlier Wednesday, Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinch of Ohio announced that he will vote in favor of the Senate bill, despite previous statements that he was firmly opposed to the bill. His change in position was offset by other updates confirmed Wednesday by CNN:

– Dennis Kucinich, OH-10, goes from "no" to "yes"

– Mike Doyle, PA-14, moves from "Undecided" to "Yes"

– Steve Dreihaus, OH-01, moves from "undecided" to "No unless modified"

– Ike Skelton, MO-04, moves from "Undecided" to "No"

– Dale Kildee, MI-05, moves from "Has not responded" to "Yes"

-CNN's Dana Bash, Lisa Desjardins, Evan Glass, Alan Silverleib, Deirdre Walsh and Robert Yoon contributed to this report.

Filed under: Democrats • Health care • Health care vote count • House
soundoff (88 Responses)
  1. Jesus(the Zombie version)

    My tax dollars should not be spent saving lives.

    Bush had it right when he spent $800 billion in tax payer money to go to Iraq.

    We have successfully lowered our population by over 5,000 thanks to Iraq.

    Granted they were all soldiers, but just like voting down this bill, it save us the trouble of having less unemployment.

    Because if they're dead, they can't use our tax dollars.

    I love America

    Money > Human Life

    March 17, 2010 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  2. Dean

    This bill does nothing to reduce health care costs, reduce insurance premiums or reduce drug costs. It does reduce Medicare spending which will result in less Medicare services for the elderly who have been paying into Medicare since its beginning. The cost of drugs in Canada will still be cheaper than the same drugs sold here.
    It will increase your taxes. If the public option is implemented it will eventually result in the demise of all insurers other than the government who does not have a very good record running any business like the post offoce, veterans health, medicare and medicaid. When you buy 6 Edsels and they are all lemons, you eventually learn to quit buying Edsels. Why would you want the government to run your healthcare too?

    March 17, 2010 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  3. wait a minute

    If we are one country, we should insure our own people. People should pay for the care according to their ability to pay.

    It's time to end the gravy train for the insurance-medical industrial complex. We can no longer afford it.

    November will be very interesting to watch. I bet you Dems will lose if they don't pass this historic bill.

    March 17, 2010 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  4. Michael from Ventura

    Quit playing politics with American lives- that IS what you are doing! Get the bill through then change it for the better later. Don't let the Obstructionists win again. Too much depends on it.

    March 17, 2010 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  5. ran

    Pass the bill already and we will vote out all who did not vote for it.

    Not the best bill you bet; but with the likes of fear/hate/obstructionist/purity Republicans,Blue dogs,Lieberman and the all powerful health care insurance companies not that bad.

    It is a start and after the 2010 election we will have enough true Democrats or Independents to fix what is needed like getting non-profit public option.

    Do not be afraid people we will all get the health care we as a nation deserve in spite of all those who dare to deny us this.

    March 17, 2010 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  6. Jesus(the Zombie version)

    Please don't pass this bill.

    If this bill fails, which I hope it does, then we will never hear about HCR ever again.

    Then we can continue to let 18,000 people die every year. Good job on population control.

    And me and about 600 other Americans will make thousands of dollars off of you when premiums continue to go up and my 4 HC Insurance company stocks sky rocket.

    Please vote NO, the Insurance companies have already assured us that they will not drop more people or raise premiums to cover the hundred million dollars they spent on lobbyists and advertising.

    They will do the honorable thing and take that money from their net profits.


    March 17, 2010 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  7. AndyBlue

    Why is this an issue? We (American Taxpayers) pay for Israel and Iraq to have so-called "socialist" healthcare.

    How come we cant afford it for our own country?

    March 17, 2010 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  8. a little sad

    "Debby March 17th, 2010 5:19 pm ET

    It doesn't matter if it passes, with most Americans against the bill,"

    Yup, keep trying to spread those lies.

    March 17, 2010 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  9. Scottyrw

    When are the American people going to wake up and open their eyes! The Republicans are puppets for big money, wall street and the health insurance companies! The Corporations pull their strings and they jump and scream trying to cut all cost the the bad guys. They never fight for the American public .... infact for the last 25 years they have been trying to distroy the middle class so we can go back to the plantation days of free slave labor. If things don't change the 1% weathy will be the plantation owners and everyone else will be the slaves. Don't vote Republican!

    March 17, 2010 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  10. Independent voter insurance is mandatory because your accident could affect other people. if all accidents only involved yourself then it would be your choice to have insurance effects you and your family only making it your choice to decide whether or not you want it. if you want to go into debt when you get sick by not paying for health insurance..well, thats your perogative.
    i wish their was some reform. however, but this crap.. i have had insurance my whole life. my parents when i was younger and then on my own after that. i rarely go to the doctor, but i still pay for it. during the tough times i would go without other things to make sure i had it...just in all those people who chose to go without it b/c they didn't want to pay for it b/c they knew they would always get taken care of..hospitals wont turn you away...and they dont care about there credit..or whatever can have my tax money to pay it for them???...doesnt seem fair..if it does pass i hope they give me back all my unused health insurance premiums for the last 33 years...just goes to show ...people who choose to do the right thing..usually get screwed in the end..

    March 17, 2010 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  11. Mike in MN

    Obama has deepend the divide in this country with his push to pass a health care bill a majority of voters do not want. The two most recent polls taken on 3/14 show no movement in voter support for the bill.
    Rasmussen 53% against, 43% for
    NBC News/Wall St. Jnl. 48% against, 36% for
    Obama can give a 100 more speeches and it won't matter.
    The people know it is a terrible bill that won't live up to Obama's promises and will wind up costing much more than a trillion dollars. They know becasue the two other monster entitlement programs,Social Security and Medicare, have been mismanaged by the government for decades and are about to bankrupt our nation. Obamacare will just be a third entitlement program that will push us faster to bankurptcy.
    The majority of the people do not want Obamacare. They do want health care reform, but Obama refuses to give us the kind of reform we want.
    And the use of procedures like deeming the bill passed and reconciliation will only deepen the partisian divide. And now Democrat Senators are talking about changing the rules to get rid of the filibuster.
    The present mood of the country is to restore Repubicans to power in 2010 and 2012. If that happens, after all this, they will show no mercy to the Democrats. They will enact their pound of flesh and we will have two Americas. Obama said there would be no Blue states and no Red states, only the United States. Thanks to him that will never happen while he is president.

    March 17, 2010 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  12. Barbara in AZ

    PLEASE PASS THIS BILL! To not do so is uncivilized. I cannot believe the arguments in opposition to this reform. They astound me.

    March 17, 2010 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  13. Fitz in Texas

    Claudia, Houston, Tx writes: "President Obama is the greatest President in American history."
    HAHAHAHHOHOHOH,,,,,I just love a good laugh when someone says something so funny and laughable.

    March 17, 2010 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  14. jeff from chicago

    it's only been a year but it is already clear that time will show obummer as the worse president ever.

    count me as a member of the party of no.
    It's better than being party to the fall of the greatest country up to this point in history.

    March 17, 2010 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  15. Richard

    Watching Nancy and her crew shamelessly trying anything... ANYTHING... to get this bill passed reminds me of Walsh's cry during the old McCarthy hearings: "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

    March 17, 2010 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  16. noneofyourbusiness

    Looks like Boehner can't get the job done – again.

    Perhaps Minority (and probably permanent Minority) Leader Boehner will drink one of his 'garlic milkshake' after this bill passes!

    Boehner, speaking to reporters this afternoon, joked that the public option is “about as unpopular as a garlic milkshake.”

    March 17, 2010 05:49 pm at 5:49 pm |
  17. SanantonioSlim

    There are frequent references to republican obstructionism. The democrats have a significant majority in the house. if this is such a great bill why aren't they able to pass it??? I grow weary of those that condemn one party or the other with the same old talking points - try thinking for yourself.

    As for car insurance, you don't need it if you don't have a car so there is no valid comparison. If this bill - one day we may even be able to read it once it emerges from the smoke-filled rooms of the most open administration and congress in history - passes then by virtue of being alive you must pay. Pretty sad.

    March 17, 2010 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  18. blden

    To the repugnuts who keep saying that most Americans are aginst health care reform. Where did you get your (non) information. You accept what you hear from the likes of Rush and Glenn, which is NOT TRUE.
    Stop repeating their lies.

    March 17, 2010 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  19. Jesus(the Zombie version)

    @Mike in MN

    You forgot to mention that 73% of Americans feel Congress is broken.

    Oh those pesky facts, don't you just hate them?

    Also, this bil was written by Dems and Repubs, Obama's plan has not been voted in.

    But it's hard to understand that when you are the minority, you don't make the rules.

    But anyway, we should use the Republican method of paying for this:


    Kind of like when you go

    March 17, 2010 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  20. Albo58

    Once the Dimwits pass health care 'reform", perhaps they should start on light bill, gas supply, grocery store, mortgage, and credit care "reform" so the taxpayers can bankroll all those unfortunate sould that can't/won't pay those bills! Perhaps we should also serve rainbow stew and drink free bubbalub, too! Vote these clowns out ASAP!

    March 17, 2010 05:55 pm at 5:55 pm |
  21. Anonymous

    Hey Health Care reform is very much needed and if your against it I hope someday something will happen and you'll be hit hard with raising rates and heavy medical bills I'm unemployed I need a job yea but I also need affordable healthcare.

    March 17, 2010 05:59 pm at 5:59 pm |
  22. BadGOP

    Of course the GOP will all vote the same, facists always do !!!

    March 17, 2010 06:01 pm at 6:01 pm |
  23. Minnesota gal

    And each democrat who votes against the bill will be primaried. They will be effectively kicked out of the democratic party and made to join the obstructions otherwise known as republicans. Obstructionist who simply want the poor and needy and the middle class to die out. That way they think they will have nothing but the goofy butt bunch of tea bags and super rich who will rule this country.

    How can a group of people call them selves Christians. All they do is vote against and try to obstruct any and all bills that would help the general public. To cutting school lunches for poor kids, fuel help for seniors and the needy, and this bunch of apes call themselves Christians. They have a front seat at Satan's parties if you ask me and any one else who supports them will burn in Hades with them I pray every day to the real God to let them have it.

    March 17, 2010 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  24. Jim in San Mateo

    No wonder American is fed up with Congress. In the past year they've got almost nothing done, except fighting with each other like a bunch of spoiled children. Can we vote some adults into the chambers and maybe they can figure out a way to get the nation's business done?

    March 17, 2010 06:16 pm at 6:16 pm |
  25. Kevin in Ohio

    If the PROPONENTS had enough votes, they would vote on it NOW. But they don't. Instead, the democrats are resorting to underhanded means to take over 1/6 of the U.S. Economy.

    I'm listening to Obama now.... he is sooo full of double speak, it makes me sick. Especially when he continues to Blame Bush, like he just did.

    Disgusting. Dishonest. Democrat.

    March 17, 2010 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
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