March 17th, 2010
04:36 PM ET
8 years ago

Health care head count: Opponents back to 11 votes shy


Washington (CNN) - An ongoing CNN survey reveals that 27 Democrats plan to vote against the Senate health care bill as currently written.

Both Democrats and Republicans are racing to the magic number of 216. If supporters of the bill secure 216 'yes' votes, the bill passes; conversely, if opponents secure 216 'no' votes, the bill fails.

If all 178 Republican members vote against the bill as expected, opponents are once again 11 votes short of the 216 needed to kill the bill.

Earlier Wednesday, Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinch of Ohio announced that he will vote in favor of the Senate bill, despite previous statements that he was firmly opposed to the bill. His change in position was offset by other updates confirmed Wednesday by CNN:

– Dennis Kucinich, OH-10, goes from "no" to "yes"

– Mike Doyle, PA-14, moves from "Undecided" to "Yes"

– Steve Dreihaus, OH-01, moves from "undecided" to "No unless modified"

– Ike Skelton, MO-04, moves from "Undecided" to "No"

– Dale Kildee, MI-05, moves from "Has not responded" to "Yes"

-CNN's Dana Bash, Lisa Desjardins, Evan Glass, Alan Silverleib, Deirdre Walsh and Robert Yoon contributed to this report.

Filed under: Democrats • Health care • Health care vote count • House
soundoff (88 Responses)
  1. John in WV

    People, if you are truly against health reform, be against it because you think it is not in the best interest of the American people. Don't be against it because you simply want this president to fail. Admit you are against it because you have health care and you are afraid that making it affordable to 30 million more Americans might make you have to pay a little more. Don't oppose it because reform failure will help get more of your repubs elected in November. If you are wealthy, don't oppose health reform because you claim it will raise the federal debt and your taxes. You have enjoyed tax breaks for 10 years that have created a record debt that left you richer. Just be truthful and admit the real reasons you oppose health reform.

    March 17, 2010 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |

    somebody please tell me how this bill is going to lower my premiums without lowering the quality of my health care????

    where does it say in there that if they dont lower the premium they are going to be fined or taxed where is that mandate at in the bill?

    where does it say that the new insurance companies arent going to raise their premiums somewhere down the line??? where does it say that my employer has to keep the same insurance plans it has now and they wont change for a cheaper one that gives me less coverage and higher copays??
    i havent heard any of that sort of thing from anybody oher than they saying it how are they going to stop all that??? where oh where

    March 17, 2010 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  3. Jon

    Way to go Kucinich. One little plane ride and you drop to your knees and vow to do anything Obama Osama wants you to do. I hope the people of Ohio are proud of you.

    March 17, 2010 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  4. David

    At least one Republican will end up voting in favour of the health care bill, when the bill is a success and public opinion shifts (when special interests stop trying to sway public opinion for their own personal gain) at least one republican will want to position themselves for a future presidential campaign.

    March 17, 2010 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
  5. Amazing Kreskin

    The health care reform bill fails.

    March 17, 2010 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
  6. insightful

    When this thing passes (AND IT WILL) look for a Republican or two (or more) to jump ship. They're not going down with the "NO" vote boat when they see that passage is a sure thing and the back lash can be devastating to those "NO-ers".

    March 17, 2010 06:33 pm at 6:33 pm |
  7. ww

    Our divisiveness today cannot be blamed on our preside except because of the people who were divisive the second he won the election!

    March 17, 2010 06:33 pm at 6:33 pm |
  8. valwayne

    That the crazy radical left represented by Kucinich is going to vote for the massive, corrupt, Government takeover was always a foregone conclusion. It made for nice show though!!!! How anybody that isn't part of the radical crazed extreme left can support the massive, corrupt, monstosity that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have put together is a complete mystery. We have to restore balance to our Government in Nov like we had in the 90s before its too late for all of us!!!

    March 17, 2010 06:36 pm at 6:36 pm |
  9. I am the Great and Omnipotent Wizard of Rush and I Say . . .

    To all wavering Democrats:

    If you vote "Yes", the Republicans will attack you without mercy.
    If you vote "No", the Republicans will attack you without mercy.

    See the difference?

    March 17, 2010 06:38 pm at 6:38 pm |

    It's simple, Pass the Bill.

    March 17, 2010 06:42 pm at 6:42 pm |
  11. Nathan in Ga.

    Thank You congressman We need this bill to PASS!!

    March 17, 2010 06:49 pm at 6:49 pm |
  12. Marie MD

    Listen up people. If the health care bill was that bad the repugs would want it to pass because senator dimwit and his cronies want this to be Obama's Waterloo. Remember what he said?
    If this bill passes, even with anything that they can fix later, Americans (those with half a brain anyway) will know for sure that the repugs (and some democrats) are in the pockets of the insurance companies and all they care about is their livelihood and money. They don't care one bit about the millions of Americans who die each year because they don't have health insurance.

    March 17, 2010 06:50 pm at 6:50 pm |
  13. mike

    I just read another story where Bohner wants an "up or down" vote in the House ... LOL!!!

    Gimmie a break Johny B. If the Senate GOP was going to allow an 'up or down' vote in the Senate, then the house vote would be a moot point but since the GoP obstuctionists in the Senate rage onwards, you are going to get your lunch handed to you via reconcilliation in the House ...

    Learn to love it Johnny as you'll be in the permanent minority for a long time once this passes ...

    March 17, 2010 06:52 pm at 6:52 pm |
  14. j

    VOTE FOR IT ALREADY! ! ! It's not perfect but it's a starting point. The Democrats really can't afford to let this bill fail. I'm not happy with it but I'm hoping it can be modified for the better. The main thing is not to let it fail, which basically means either giving up or starting over, neither of which is desirable in my opinion. If nothing else, DON"T let the Republicans win.

    March 17, 2010 06:53 pm at 6:53 pm |
  15. Vic of New York

    Democrats who fail to vote "YES" won't have to worry about RED Party challenges. They can simply pack their bags and leave now.

    Lenny Lance (RED) in NJ-7 is history. Conserva-Dems can join him.

    RED Party =

    + Reckless Economics
    + Religious Bigots
    + Racist Intolerants
    + Recalcitrant Politicos

    . . . In other words: Republicans!

    March 17, 2010 06:54 pm at 6:54 pm |
  16. LacrosseMom

    I am getting so tired of posting the same thing day in and day out. The Republicans are the ones who claim to be holier-than-thou.

    The Republicans are the ones who claim to be pro-life.

    The Republicans are the ones who rant about protecting Americans from terrorism!

    However, the Republicans do not care that thousands of Americans DIE EVERY YEAR because they do not have healthcare.

    I pray that America is watching who is for America and who is for Big Corporations!

    March 17, 2010 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  17. The Voice

    This is the most expensensive anti-reform campaining in American history. Big healthcare, the GOP, and the neo-con haters do not want this to pass only for political reasons.

    We know the system is now broken, premiums are skyrocketing as we speak, only the rich will be able to afford healthcare. Yet all the democrats are trying to do is level the plane field.

    If this passes, which it will, it will be looked in history as one of the biggest changes of the goverment working for the middle class and lower class in American's history. Where the poor finally defeated the rich.

    March 17, 2010 07:10 pm at 7:10 pm |
  18. ib

    This thing needs to die and die now. We need healthcare reform not gov. takeover like Pelosi and Obama wants. Pathetic.

    March 17, 2010 07:20 pm at 7:20 pm |
  19. Sue

    Do a Google search through the Associated Press.........

    Idaho was the first state--TODAY--to sign a law saying that the Attorney General of Idaho will sue Congress-–if the government threatens, fines, jails, etc any citizen of Idaho for not having health insurance.

    Virginia is getting ready to pass the same law--with 37 other states getting ready to do the same as well.

    March 17, 2010 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  20. Jacq

    Seem to me if it is such a bad bill and all rethugs are against it,the bill must reduce cost and hit the insurance companies where they've been hitting us in the pocket

    March 17, 2010 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  21. They call me "tater salad"

    The Dem's are turning out to be spineless losers.......It's isn't only the Republicans petulant obstructionism keeping them from getting things done, a lot of it is due to them not having any balls..........If they lose in November then they deserve to lose......I'm all done with these clowns...........And NO Republicans..............That doesn't mean that I suddenly like you guy's now.........Far from it!!!!!!!

    March 17, 2010 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  22. joe

    What happened to getting up in the morning, and going to work to pay for the things that you and your family need? What happened to Americans? This mentality that we "deserve" is sad and is leading to the demise of our country. Who will pay for this? Who will pay for the programs that we already have? What about the tremendouse cuts in Medicare that is required by this plan? I have health insurance that I work hard to pay for, you should try it! Some reform s needed, but I will take care of myself, and my family – try it!

    March 17, 2010 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  23. Republicans are Repugnant Taliban

    The Repugliban keep throwing out the same old insurance company talking points knowing they are going to lose a lot of campaign dollars if this bill passes but Americans are seeing through the lies and hate filled conceit of the Repugliban and it looks like it may be rough but it is going to pass. I cannot wait to hear the screams and whining coming form the Repugliban when it does, you are going to need ear plugs to block out the crying and shouted threats of November retaliation. When it is all done and over the only retaliation going to take place are all of the Americans who remember how deceitful and full of hatred and lies the Repugliban have been, they may win a few seats but just like in counting their votes to block it they are going to come up way short. By the time 2012 rolls around you are going to see a bunch of Repugliban having to look for real jobs as thier numbers in Washington drop even lower than they are now when Obama gets relected because the Repugliban could only find Sarah Make Up with No Brains to run as President, god are we going to celebrate then.

    March 17, 2010 07:50 pm at 7:50 pm |
  24. Mike in MN

    I find it amazing that so many Democrats have committed yes or no while the fix it bill is still being written and before it is scored by the CBO.
    From what I have been reading they are having a hard time with all the cost increases Obama added to the fix it bill. Obama promised the bill would not cost more than 900 billion, but the spending increases he has added to the fix it bill is pushing the costs beyond that. And an even bigger problem is that if the fix it bill is going to be passed in the Senate using reconciliation, it must, according to Senate rules, reduce the deficit. I understand they are having a very tough time with the spending Obama has added to the fix it bill to get a CBO scoring the reduces the deficit. They can't use any deficit reductions in the Senate bill because it is a seperate bill, so the fix it bill must within itself reduce the deficit to be elgible to be passed using reconciliaton.
    Such a twisted web Obama weaves.

    March 17, 2010 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  25. Jim

    I'm an experienced insurance broker and know the details and costs of group underwriting. I'm also a lifelong Catholic who once studied in the seminary to become a priest. I am very happy Rep. Kucinich has joined with the Catholic Hospital Association and 55 nuns/leaders of women's religious orders to support President Obama's reform plan!

    Not only will his plan extend coverage to 30 million citizens (such as my daughter); the Congressional Budget Office and most actuaries agree his plan would reduce the growth in healthcare spending, ease the burden on businesses, and trim the federal deficit!

    Americans will have much to be thankful for this Easter when the healthcare reform is passed!.

    March 17, 2010 07:58 pm at 7:58 pm |
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