Washington (CNN) – A prominent House Republican said Sunday that his caucus will do whatever it can to try to stop passage of a Democratic health care reform plan.
“Well, I don’t know if they have the votes,” Rep. Mike Pence, R-Indiana, said on State of the Union, just minutes after Rep. John Larson, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, said Democrats had lined up the 216 votes necessary to pass the legislation. “House Republicans are going to use every means at our disposal,” Pence said.
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When asked by CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley exactly what House Republicans intended to do, Pence was coy. “Well, stay tuned, Candy. It’s going to be an interesting day.”
The House is set to take up the final Democratic package on Sunday afternoon.
The Indiana Republican also suggested Sunday that Democrats could pay a price at the polls in this year’s midterm elections if they succeed in passing health care reform.
“I don’t know if they [Democrats] have the votes today,” Pence told Crowley as he looked at Larson, “but I guarantee you the American people know they have the votes in November.”
Earlier on State of the Union, Rep. Larson, D-Connecticut, declared that his party has enough votes to pass the reform package.
“We’ve got the votes,” Larson told Crowley.
The Connecticut Democrat also said, “This is a historic day and we are happy warriors. We are so proud of the Democratic caucus that we will be a part of history, joining Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s passage of Social Security, Lyndon Johnson’s passage of Medicare, and now Barack Obama’s passage of health care reform.”
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Still think dems should have went for the whole enchilada but at least we are moveing in the right direction. :p
Needs repeating :)
Other problems I have with this bill include:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.... See More
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now – ACORN).
** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counceling.)
** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order less
I am one of the "American people" and I hate the GOP. I'll remember that in November and all the years after.
15 minutes until the gavel strikes . .. then the 2 hr. showdown . Jersey reps. listen to your hard working.. good work ethic.. common sense constituents. Allow the state to provide that temp safety net.. not the gov. freebe foodchain. Jerseyites are a charitable group.. no matter what their income or which blue or white collar town they live in. HE just doesn't know any better .
Pence and the rest of the Republicans can take their obstructionist threats and shove them where the sun doesn't shine!
I'm sick and tired of all their fear-mongering and bully rhetoric!
They don't give a rat's behind about the American people!
If they did, they wouldn't have lied us into two unfunded wars; they would have used their time in power to pass meaningful health care reform; they wouldn't have trampled the Constitution and used "every means at their disposal" to divide our country against itself!
The Republicans are nothing more than a bunch of bully thugs.
And after this health care reform passes and people see how it benefits them directly, come November, teh Republicans are the ones who are going to lose BIG TIME!
Not one republican vote for this bill tells me that they don't care about the public. By the way Bush approved/spent the billions for universial heathcare for Iraqis. The republicans care more for our enemies than Americans.
this is not about health care reform this is a war between the democrats and the republicans simple as that.
@Deceive...how can you sleep at night wanting this bill? read it before you post.
Okay America I have a question. I get why the GOP leadership is against this. After all one only need look at how long they were out of power after Social Security passed. (look it up Alf Landon ran on its repeal after FDR got it through (if you are wondering who Alf Landon is that proves my point).
I get why the insurance companies are against this. I mean if you had asked Louis XVI if he was for "The Rights of Man" he probably would have given it a thumbs down.
But Why oh Why would any average person be against this measure. If you have insurance you rates will satyy the same or go down because with more insured the first trip to a doctor for a problem won't be the emergecy room. It will lesson the defecit, it will let kids be covered up to age 26 instead of relying on the crappy school insurance. It will help small businesses cover their employees amking them more productive and secure.
I will say one thing for the lies of the GOP leadership. They have not lost their touch. They are good at what they do.. Remember those WMD's that were supposed to be the reason for their war?
Thes lying SOB's could sell a roasted marshmallow to a person caught in a hous fire.
When the dust settles and it will if the Dems have the spine to do it. In ten years you won't find anyone from either party who wants to dismantle it.
This was never about helping Americans with healthcare -but about greed.
Simple greed above any thing mankind has ever seen. When you add Billions of at risk dollars, meaning at risk of going in the pockets of Republicans and Bluedog Democratic you are up against a brick wall-all things are thrown at the concept of helping millions of people-RACE, SCARE TATICS, TOO HIGH COST..all of this because a man would like to help the sick and dying. What a Country-dear Lord let not the racist,,,, greedy cold harded, indifferent human beings rule America any more...NO MORE!! Healthcare is a RIGHT-NOT A PRIVILEDGE!!!
I would like a credible journalist to ask every Republican member of the house and senate why they constantly vote against the interests of the people of this country and in favor of corporations. Its time to get this question answered once and for all.
One of my senators, when I e-mailed, asking him to participate in health care reform, wrote me back and told me that he never would because he had to protect the insurance company's profits. What? Its time to get all of them on the record.
Yep they think by opposing a bill that most Americans want will make them look like big shots. Nevermind the sick and dying in their districts because they do not have access to health care.
It just shows how these republicans have them selves permanently stuck up corporate butt. They would rather the people who voted for them die than shut themselves off from all that corporate money. the best darn thing to happen with this is to see the racist, absolute common members of the republican and tea bag party disappear from the American scene and give the rebuilding of this country a chance. It took bush and his fellow republicans in congress eight years to tear it to the ground with their greedy, asinine policies, I don't know how they expect the Democrats to rebuild it in a year.
I wish cheney would open his undisclosed locations and all republcians in congress were herded like the dung heap they are into them and never be heard from again til their terms are over.
Beware!! Republican's, if you defeat the Bill, it will be your seat's up for grab's come November, all, American's know that GOP stands for rich, the middleclass does not have a chance with a GOP in power, look what Bush did do the surplus that Clinton left him, nuff said...
Every means at your disposal obviously includes the traditional Republican rank and file social DNA of racism, homophobia, fear-mongering, doomsday-naysayings, etc.
If you guys prevent this bill from becoming law the health of the American people will be on your consciences for the rest of your lives. And I am not even a US citizen!
Ken in NC: If your Republican buddies weren't always giving tax cuts to the wealthy so they could ship American jobs overseas, there'd be more people with good-paying jobs that also had health care.
And if your Republican buddies weren't so intent on circumventing labor laws and encouraging companies to hire illegal aliens whom they don't pay well or provide health care coverage for, there wouldn't be so many people going to the emergency room for their primary care.
And if your Republican buddies gave a rat's behind about our nation, the Clinton surplus wouldn't have been blown by Georgie-Porgie and his two unfunded wars.
And if your Republican buddies didn’t gut financial regulations and encourage the Wall Street compulsive gamblers to treat our hard-earned money with contempt, we wouldn’t have suffered a global financial meltdown.
And here's a final news flash for you Ken: Since you are so adamant about your money paying for other people, don't you DARE call the police when you get robbed, or the fire department when your house catches fire; don't EVER drive down a public road or send your kids to public school.
Because we're tired of subsidizing bitter, ignorant, self-centered, ingrates like YOU!
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Business are going to raise the cost of their goods and services to pay for the additional health insurance they will be required to provide or taxes they are going to pay. Employers are not going to be offering pay raises for years to off set these costs while the costs of our food, housing, and cost of living increase. 15 million people will be covered over expanded medicade that eventually will have to be paid for by states that will have to raise taxes on everyone to pay for it. With 15 million additional patients and more and more doctors refusing to accept medicade, medicade patients may have health insurance but will not be able to find a doctor to treat them. See the New York Times article on Flint Michigan. We need reform but the bill is full of smoke and mirrors that will kill the economic recovery. Print this and post it on your refrigerator, look at it every day; you will not be better off years down the road. Real reform will come when we have tort reform (Did you know malpractice insurance is one of the single largest medical expense; note insurance companies make lots of money from selling malpractice insurance) and open competition across state lines for the purchase of medical insurance, And, please someone tell me one government run program that is efficient and effective. The average federal worker is paid over $100,000 which is where the big problem lies.
To John, et al: i.e. Those in favor: What makes you entitled to my hard earned money? It's not my fault you don't have healthcare. Why should I be forced to take food off of my table to pay your bills?
Holy cow, don't you realize that everyone with insurance is already
paying more than $1200.00 a year to subsidize those individuals without
insurance. We all pay for roads, military, and other social services too
that are essential to build and secure our country. These silly libertarian impulses make it sound like you all want to go it alone and raise your own tribes armed with clubs and racial slurs, sounding like the Tailban, waxing nostalgic for centuries long past.
And the idea that this is getting rammed down people's throats is stupid as well. We have debated this for over a century in our country. Republican presidents have pushed for it, and this is only the first wave of a process that will begin to reshape and refine the health care in the U.S.
The fact is the majority of the country voted in a congress and president sent there to change things, and while we dallied around trying to get the Republicans on-board, they can stay in their century if they like. I think we'd all even be delighted if you all opted for staying in your own 19th century version of health care and see how well your families do going under the knife with ether, or going with
without at all. Silly people...
What the old white America must come to realize...You did steal the US and built it, off the backs of slaves but it is no longer controlled by you...Get over yourself.... black America and those of color will no longer allow YOU to dictate and push them around....CHANGE HAS COME TO AMERICA!!!! Health Care Reform WILL PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DB in Texas.
Drink away, drink away – fool
@Fed Up – exactly. The same fear tactics, catch phrases and the like. They also did the same thing for Social Security. I would think the Republican Party could update their fear mongering to reflect the times, personally.
Mike Pence and the Republican Party do not speak for me. We had a democratic election in 2008, and those who took part overwhelmingly voted for change. Now it is time for those we put in power to deliver.
There are things I don't like about this bill, but something needs to be done to keep healthcare costs from rising and bringing our economy down. The Repubs had years to try and fix this mess, and did absolutely nothing, just as they are doing now.
I am an registered Independent, and while I'm not very happy with the way President Obama and the Dems have handled this issue so far, I am positively disgusted by the behavior of the Republican Party–their obstructionism, their arrogance, their lack of compassion for the American people. Indeed, they have completely disgraced their party, which has been hijacked by the extreme right-wing fringe.
Until the Republican Party comes back to the center and supports the interests of mainstream Americans, I will never vote for a Republican candidate. I really wish there was a viable 3rd party....
Where has Mike Pence been? He claims buying insurance across state lines is a republican solution to health reform. We can already do that with private plans like I have and if part of your insurance is employer provided, chances are you are paying a company that is in a state other than where you live. Mal-practice reform is another repub solution. But when you go to the doctor or hospital, they don't ask you if you plan to sue them. They ask you what kind of insurance you got. So if the repubs want to help doctors and hospitals with mal-practice reform, why do they expect the same people to treat nearly 50 million uninsured knowing they won't be paid one penny for the care they give?
leave it to big money republicans to tell us its good to do nothing, rather than something.
way to go guys. rich get richer, poor get poorer. good job.
Thanks to Republicans not only having nothing to offer to healthcare reform other than the word NO... AND they are obviously all in the pocket of the insurance companies, you betcha I'll be voting every single one of them I can out of office come November.
Republicans have become the worse kind of politicians, citizens and human beings thanks to healthcare reform. They are unpatriotic and treasonous... and I can't wait for all of them to be voted out of office come November.
Wake up, America!! Republicans don't care about you... only about money, money and more money!! Seems pretty obvious to me....
Why are so many voting for this bill so afraid of this President? They are all like sheep. They need not be afraid of Republicans come November – it's the Independents who will be throwing them all out of office. I hope incumbents of all parties have as much luck finding jobs as the rest of us have. Maybe if they had better spent their time creating jobs...?