August 3rd, 2010
08:27 PM ET
4 years ago

Should Obama drop Biden for Clinton in 2012?

Former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder argues that President Obama should replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the 2012 Democratic ticket.
Former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder argues that President Obama should replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the 2012 Democratic ticket.

Washington (CNN) – Should President Obama drop Vice President Joe Biden from the 2012 Democratic ticket and instead run with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton? That's exactly what's being argued by Douglas Wilder, the former Gov. of Virginia.

"Clinton has been nothing but a team player who has earned good marks since being asked to serve as secretary of state. She has skillfully navigated the globe and been tough and commanding when the moment called for it," Wilder wrote in an op-ed published Monday in Politico.

"Clinton is better suited as the political and government partner that Obama needs," Wilder argues. "I suggest this as one who vigorously supported Obama over Clinton in 2008. In fact, I campaigned across the country and engaged in spirited debates with former colleagues. I don't regret any of that. Yet, now I think Clinton brings bounty to the political table that few can match."

Among the reasons Wilder sites in his argument to replace Biden is that the vice president is a gaffe prone liability. He also says Clinton might help Obama with key Democratic voting blocs.

But Wilder's idea was quickly shot down Tuesday by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

In a statement to Gannett Newspapers, Gibbs described Biden as "an integral part of this administration."

"He is and will continue to be a trusted partner for President Obama," Gibbs said.


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soundoff (184 Responses)
  1. ib

    it might be Clinton; Obama but never Obama; Clinton.

    August 3, 2010 09:03 pm at 9:03 pm |
  2. Jeff

    So Obama's numbers are low because of Joe Biden. I'll bet Hilary could beat Obama straight up 2012.

    August 3, 2010 09:03 pm at 9:03 pm |
  3. sataylor54

    Hillary has been nothing but dignified as Sec. of State, while on the other hand Biden has been an embarrassment. As a moderate Republican who will not likely vote for the Democratic ticket in 2012, I would still feel better about Hillary being second in line if Pres. Obama wins again. And if my party puts up a far-right wing demogogue, she would made defection look much more appealing.

    August 3, 2010 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  4. Bob G.

    Close, but no cigar. Hillary would never play second fiddle. It could be that Obama, who has already left his mark with significant legislative achievements, might decide that one term is enough, and leave the nomination to Hillary. I would not think less of him for such a decision. Maybe it's already been made. Hillary would be a formidable candidate. In the meantime, honk if you belong to Democrats for Palin 2012!

    August 3, 2010 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  5. JK Ashburn, VA

    Actually, Hillary should drop Obama from the ticket. She'd win the Dem nomination in a heartbeat if the primaries were starting now. Even loyal Dems, in a moment of quiet candidness, admit that Obama's been a disaster.

    August 3, 2010 09:06 pm at 9:06 pm |
  6. Charles R Barbour

    I don't believe that President Obama will run for a 2nd term. Blind ambition doesn't drive this man, purpose does. Why else would a Harvard educated star choose community organizing in Chicago over mega bucks on wall street. One term also explain the feverish pace that he has been trying to fulfill his campaign promises.
    I beleive that Obama will anounce in 2011 that he will not run for re-election and instead, throw hissupport behind Hillary for POTUS. This will catch the repubs off guard, thus all but guaranteeing her a landslide victory. She will pick Micheal utter for VP.
    If I'm right about all of this, then offer me a job.

    August 3, 2010 09:07 pm at 9:07 pm |
  7. Clint, Wa.

    You'll get my vote.

    August 3, 2010 09:08 pm at 9:08 pm |
  8. Tim

    Who cares, he won't win. He shouldn't have won the first time, but unfortuneately we live in a country of pansies.

    August 3, 2010 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  9. guy

    Wouldn't it be nice if obama would drop himself off the ticket and let biden blow the turn with his stupid remarks?This country deserves what it's receiving with jokers like Bush and obama.Such a joke!

    August 3, 2010 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  10. Sockboy

    If Hiliary had become president instead of Obama the United States wouldn't be in the mess it's in right now. That's what happens when you put someone in the White House who has no experience and who got his position based on skin color.

    August 3, 2010 09:10 pm at 9:10 pm |
  11. Stuart

    Wonderful! Two incompetent glory seekers together on the same ticket. Does the coffin need another nail?

    August 3, 2010 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  12. Henry Miller, Libertarian, Cary, NC

    It doesn't matter–Obama has no chance of winning the 2012 election, assuming the Dems are dumb enough to nominate him.

    August 3, 2010 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  13. bimmer

    It should be Clinton-Obama.

    August 3, 2010 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  14. Bob

    AS long as Obama insists on giving 12 million plus ILLEGAL ALIENS amnesty while Americans are out of jobs he might as well just not run. I voted for him but NOT again. I will vote for person who want NO amnesty and E-Verify. Press 9 for English.

    August 3, 2010 09:12 pm at 9:12 pm |
  15. Tom-Vermillion, Ohio

    What does Sec Clinton think of this? Personally, I believe Dr Sanjay Gupta would be the perfect choice. And here's why, no gaffes, just facts. Non-political, he's got experience everywhere. He is professional, highly likable, worldly, trustworthy, tells it like it is. Think about it. I would feel safe and confident, who couldn't? On top of it, he could have an hour prime time show on CNN, reporting on the inside happenings at the White House. And just think about CNN's ratings...up and over the top! Yea...now we're talking...Hey everybody, let's draft Sanjay VP MD in 2012!

    August 3, 2010 09:14 pm at 9:14 pm |
  16. Guest

    Yes! would be a great team!

    August 3, 2010 09:18 pm at 9:18 pm |
  17. Rob B

    I agree with the press secretary. As mandated by the Constitution it really doesn't matter what the Vice President says or doesn't say because he/she has no real power. So being a team player is irrelevant. However, I think it would be a Republican attack point if Clinton ran as VP due to the dealings with North Korea, that Hillary's Husband Bill went in and accomplished.

    August 3, 2010 09:19 pm at 9:19 pm |
  18. The Truth Please...I Just Want The Truth

    If Joe Biden cares about the future of this country, HE will take the initiative and resign as vice-President before the next Presidential election, giving President Obama the opportuntity to do what he SHOULD have done to begin with...put Hillary on the ticket as his running mate.

    August 3, 2010 09:19 pm at 9:19 pm |
  19. GenoTenn

    perhaps that should read: Clinton/Obama in 2012

    August 3, 2010 09:20 pm at 9:20 pm |
  20. C. Rider

    I do like Hillary Clinton better than Joe Biden. Besides, as MSNBC's Chris Matthews explained just today, Joe Biden wanted to be Secretary of State, anyway. Hillry, of course wanted to be President, but I think that given the outcome of the Democratic primary of 2008, I believe she'd be happier as Vice President as her second choice. Just as she said that had she won the Democratic primary, she would have considerred making Barack Obama Vice President. Such a move would energize the progressive side, and make Republicans have a harder election to run in 2012. Yeah, pretty much this is a idea that should be seriously considered by the President :).

    August 3, 2010 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  21. Truth Teller

    It's what he should have done to begin with.

    August 3, 2010 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  22. Dalecn

    I think an Obama/Rangel ticket would be really good. Some might say that Rangel acted stupidly but I think he is quite possibly as smart and skilled in finances as is Barack Obama.

    August 3, 2010 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  23. c s saenz

    I think Hillary should be nominated for democratic presidential candidate
    for what would have been the second term that otherwise would be Obama's (except for all the spending, etc.)
    Hillary can do it and do it masterfully. She has experience in the White House, Senate, Secretary of State, and she has the desire to make America a better place to live, like the U.S.A. we used to know.
    Hillary loves this country and will work incessantly if elected.

    August 3, 2010 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  24. dj

    Clinton and drop Obama period. Enough of that idiot.

    August 3, 2010 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  25. Mike

    It doesn't matter, because Obama is ruining this country. He has recently supported a plan to outsource 3,000 IT employees for offshore services. Good riddance, man, you're not getting our vote no matter WHO you run with.

    August 3, 2010 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
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