August 3rd, 2010
08:27 PM ET
4 years ago

Should Obama drop Biden for Clinton in 2012?

Former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder argues that President Obama should replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the 2012 Democratic ticket.
Former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder argues that President Obama should replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the 2012 Democratic ticket.

Washington (CNN) – Should President Obama drop Vice President Joe Biden from the 2012 Democratic ticket and instead run with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton? That's exactly what's being argued by Douglas Wilder, the former Gov. of Virginia.

"Clinton has been nothing but a team player who has earned good marks since being asked to serve as secretary of state. She has skillfully navigated the globe and been tough and commanding when the moment called for it," Wilder wrote in an op-ed published Monday in Politico.

"Clinton is better suited as the political and government partner that Obama needs," Wilder argues. "I suggest this as one who vigorously supported Obama over Clinton in 2008. In fact, I campaigned across the country and engaged in spirited debates with former colleagues. I don't regret any of that. Yet, now I think Clinton brings bounty to the political table that few can match."

Among the reasons Wilder sites in his argument to replace Biden is that the vice president is a gaffe prone liability. He also says Clinton might help Obama with key Democratic voting blocs.

But Wilder's idea was quickly shot down Tuesday by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

In a statement to Gannett Newspapers, Gibbs described Biden as "an integral part of this administration."

"He is and will continue to be a trusted partner for President Obama," Gibbs said.


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soundoff (184 Responses)
  1. lenspins

    Hilliary should get the nod to run with Obama in 2012.

    August 3, 2010 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm |
  2. dcfromct

    I don't see that happening for 2 reasons:
    1. Obama has too big of an ego, he is more likely to try to make himself look good and eliminate the competiton by nominating Hillary to the supreme court because he knows she would beat him in the primary.
    2. Hillary is smarter than Obama, has more experience than he does (which isn't saying much) plus most people, especially Democrats like the Clintons, Obama has no credibility. He's in over his head, he's lied about practically everything, will say one thing then do another and everytime he campaigns for a dem now they lose.
    Personally I hope he keeps campaigning, he the best thing for the GOP and Independent candidates.

    August 3, 2010 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm |
  3. daDems

    da DEMS should consider picking a 2012 VP who would be a strong candidate for prez in the year 2016. I dont believe Hillary fits that description.

    August 3, 2010 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm |
  4. Aaron

    Unfortunately, Hillary's big moment in the sun has passed. By submitting to Obama as her boss (effectively neutralizing her), she's at the end of the road politically.

    August 3, 2010 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm |
  5. Anonymous

    Obama-Clinton 2012 Yes!!!!!!!!

    August 3, 2010 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm |
  6. snow

    Why would hiliary attach herself to this loser and muddy her name trying to defend nobamma's stupid decisions.

    August 3, 2010 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm |
  7. JRT

    How about dreversing it and making a Clinton-Obama ticket or similarly dropping Obama instead? Massive disappointment; he fooled a lot of us.

    August 3, 2010 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm |
  8. hoosier voter

    By all means YES!

    But please do not say "Drop Biden."

    Joe Biden is a team player and a man of the people who is astute enough to know when the Democrats need a big push to retain the presidency for the next decade....he would certainly deign to not run again and go on to a cabinet position with both grace
    (non-verbal, that is :) ) and enthusiasm.

    I have felt this coming on for about eight months now and hope that Hillary and Barack and Joe can get together and work it out....

    It would immediately re-energize all those voters–me included–who had a tough decision between Obama and Clinton back in 2008 and who have since had their doubts about Obama's political savvy, scrappiness, and power to change this nation big time...

    Say no to the GOP party of obstruction and big business...Hareom. :)

    August 3, 2010 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm |
  9. Reynald

    Where this could help Clinton, it will hurt Obama. I don't want to see her as vice-president either. I want her President. If this can't be done then SOS should she stay.

    August 3, 2010 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm |
  10. Dustybear

    Biden should drop Obama.

    August 3, 2010 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm |
  11. NancyinCali

    Yes. But not because Biden has done anything wrong, because Hillary is more popular than Biden and will help to energize an otherwise somewhat apathetic base. Biden has never been that popular with Democrats, in '08 he garnered only about 4% of Dem voters; Hillary on the other hand – as we have been reminded, received the most votes. Obama's favorability numbers are way down, Biden's even further – yet Hillary's numbers are sky high. It makes sense to put her on the ticket and in doing so Obama will help ensure the Dems win in 2012. Obama has lost ground with women voters and putting Hillary on the ticket would help with this as well as make history with the first woman VP. Also, Biden will be too old to be President in 2016. Putting HIllary on the ticket sets her up nicely for 2016.

    August 3, 2010 11:18 pm at 11:18 pm |
  12. hamptonpartyof8

    obama shouldn't run at all

    August 3, 2010 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm |
  13. Dean

    They would make a strong ticket. Obama better look out. People who stand in the way of the Clinton's sometimes don't stay around too long.

    August 3, 2010 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm |
  14. Jason

    It really doesn't matter because the sorry man will NOT be Prez again!!

    August 3, 2010 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm |
  15. Reuben in Denver

    I rather suspect after the 2010 mid-term elections that Obama will the one pressured by the party to step aside. I would love to see a Nancy Pelosi-Hilary Clinton ticket in 2012.

    I voted for Obama instead of Hillary at my precinct caucus in Denver against my better judgement. The pressure was overwhelming. That is not the case now.

    August 3, 2010 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm |
  16. Gar

    We need President not to run for re-election...if Pres. Obama stays any longer then we will be bankrupt!

    August 3, 2010 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm |
  17. Scott

    Nice Try! It is not Biden that is the Anti-American, Blame America First, Socialist, Anti-Business, Marxist Black Theology, Eat the Rich, Race Baiting Liberal although he is a Moron also. Americans do not like you Obama!

    August 3, 2010 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm |
  18. dina

    What a ticket that would be. I had hoped that HIllary would have been the elected president this first time with Obama as VP so he could learn the ropes and eight years later be president but Hillary as VP would be great so that they could win again and she could get elected for eight more years as president. Come on.This is a dream team. Biden is a nice guy but he adds nothing to the presidency. Think about it.

    August 3, 2010 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm |
  19. all of America

    Dosen't matter who obama runs with ,he will never get re elected because the majority of the people are not going to vote for the same looser twice !

    August 3, 2010 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm |
  20. Richard Komi

    The governor's suggestion is what I call political suiside. The vice presiddent was chosen because of his experience in international politics and foreign policy. He brings to the table what Mrs. Clinton is learning as secretery of state. There is no way the vice president can be dropped for Mrs. Clinton to run. The governor seems to be out of touch with political reality.

    August 3, 2010 11:40 pm at 11:40 pm |
  21. GE in MD

    You could make better arguments for:
    1. A Biden-Clinton ticket
    2. A Clinton-X (not yet identified) ticket

    At the rate he's going, Obama will be all burned out or alll used up byh the time the 2012 campaign season seriously begins.

    August 3, 2010 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm |
  22. Dave D

    Hillary would not have him.

    There is no way she would accept this now.

    Maybe Obama should drop Obama from the ticket.

    August 3, 2010 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm |
  23. Biden is smart.

    No, keep Biden. He's hilarious. Drop Obama.

    Kidding. Drop both.

    August 3, 2010 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm |
  24. Big John

    Although Hilary would make an excellent VP, she's doing great in her role as Sec. of State. Vice President Biden is doing fine as well, I think there is much too much emphasis being put on a gaff every now and then. He's a brilliant man doing a great job to switch for 2012 would not be a good message.

    August 3, 2010 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm |
  25. Francisco Cardenas

    If Obama doesn't choose Hillary he will be very foolish.

    August 3, 2010 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm |
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