(CNN) – It's rare that two media watchdogs – one on the left and one on the right – ever agree when it comes to assessing coverage on the cable news outlets.
But both the conservative Newsbusters and liberal Media Matters are aiming fire at Fox News' Geraldo Rivera and Judge Andrew Napolitano for recently suggesting the third building to fall on September 11, 2001 – 7 World Trade Center- may have collapsed for reasons beside the widely held belief that fire from the two World Trade Center towers nearby was the ultimate cause.
In a segment that aired on his program more than two weeks ago, Rivera reported on those who claim the building's collapse was more consistent with that which would occur from explosive devices.
"I'm certainly much more open-minded about it than I was," Rivera said of the alternate possibility for the building's fall.
Days later Napolitano – a legal analyst for Fox – said of the theory:
"It's hard for me to believe that [7 World Trade Center] came down by itself. I was gratified to see Geraldo Rivera investigating it. I'm gratified to see the people across the border interested.
"I think 20 years from now, people will look at 9/11 the way they look at the assassination of JFK today," he added, in an interview with radio host Alex Jones. "It couldn't possibly have been done the way the government told us."
In a post on its Web site Tuesday, Newsbusters said the suggestion lacked any common sense and amounted to "moral repugnance."
"Just so Fox is clear about the people whom they've given soapboxes, Geraldo and the Judge are apparently unconvinced by physics, common sense, and the simple human decency of their elected officials," wrote Newsbuster's Lachlan Markay.
Meanwhile, Media Matters Eric Hananoki wrote: "Napolitano's belief in 9-11 conspiracy theories may make things awkward with his Fox News colleagues – especially Glenn Beck - who have denounced 9-11 conspiracy theories and those associating themselves with anyone making them."
A federal report in 2008 determined fires at the World Trade Center site ultimately spread to 7 World Trade Center and weakened critical floor beams and structural columns of the nearly-50 story building, leading to its collapse. The building– which housed offices of the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service and the Giuliani administration's emergency response center - was completely evacuated at the time of its collapse.
Fox News did not respond to CNN's request for comment.
Why doesn't Charlie Sheen and all his glue
sniffing celebrity conspiracy comrades
just pack their roach clips and pipes and
get the hell out of America if they distrust
the government so much.
Please, slime balls, don't stay here and
take all the abuse from the government
the rest of us are willing to take.
Just act like a tree and L E A V E !!!!!!!!!!
It sells news, to claim conspiracy. There will always be those who want to believe in such unproven theories.
Of course, it has occurred to no one, or at least I have yet to hear anyone voice the possibility......that those structures may have been flawed, to start with. How many times a month, do we hear about, somewhere in the world, buildings that just collapse.......only to find bad construction as the cause?
What is Geraldo expecting the investigation to turn up? Al Capone's vault?
Has it ever occurred to anyone that the same group of Muslim terrorists who orchestrated 9/11 also planted detonation devices outside the towers to assure that they exploded upon impact by the two planes? Even if the towers DID collapse because of causes other than fire, why does everyone jump to the conclusion that it was an "inside job" involving the government? Why would it NOT be the same group of terrorists responsible for the other two plane hijackings and crashes that day?
I concur with the conspirator theory people. As a psychic, I saw the collapse of the World Trade Center about 15 months prior to its occurrence and do know that part of what came through was "George Bush is directly involved." At the time, I did not realize that the destruction was anything other than planned, and I asked a person who was with me when I got the vision of the future why anyone would be taking down the World Trade Center in as much as it had only been built in the mid 60's. Because the event was planned and executed, I saw no danger, but also noted that in "the months and years to follow, thousands if not millions would die" and I assumed that it was perhaps because of a release of a virus or bacteria. History confirms the acts and we know the deaths to be the result of a war waged that resulted from the actions of George Walker Bush in the destruction of the World Trade Center. The truth will come out, but the perpetrators may only have their legacies soiled, rather than receiving the just punishment expected. That is a real shame. A trial of George Walker Bush for Crimes Against Humanity would at least help to restore America's standing in the world and would show the world that we are willing and able to take action when an affront against humankind has been committed.
I don't get it, what problem do both of these groups have with that? This might be the first time I'm siding with FOX News. Even if they're wrong and World Trade Center 7 came down from fires from the other two towers, that doesn't mean they're in the wrong for investigating it. I'm more confused as to why these two groups would be offended by this. That seems much fishier than anything FOX did in this case.
The real answer is locked in Al Capone's vault.
Everything FOX spouts is a "conspiracy theory"..........and all the RWs believe it.
Breath-takingly unsubstantiated, brain-dead comments by Faux News commentators. That's breaking news in the tradition of "water runs downhill" and "dog bites man".
People usually don't want to acknowledge the 800 LBS gorilla in the room, but that doesn't necessarily means that all citizens believe in their government, specially when there is no credibility in any thing or every thing the government says or does. After the oil spill in NOLA, and democrats wanted to get to the bottom of the many crimes committed by big oil, but republicans, as always, afraid to find out the truth, refused to give subpoena powers to investigators, because they already knew that those crimes had been committed, ergo, they denied subpoena powers. Which brings me to pre 9/11 accounts that corroborated, beyond any doubt, that Bush and cronies not only knew the attackers' plans, but refused to stop it. Bush was caught red handed saying that: You covered your a**, now leave me alone. And what happened when Bush had to give in to the viticms' survivors desire for an investigation and he couldn't fight it no more? He allow, over his dead body, for the investigation to star and how could he impacted so the truth couldn't be found out? No subpoena power. There is a saying that states: "You can foll some of the people, some of the time, but not all the people, all the time. He could preach to his war criminals, but many know that he had more to do with 9/11 than he admits. It's beyond belief to believe the boy who cried wolf and yet people are afraid of allowing the 800 LBS gorilla in the room and the frail democracy of ours cease to exist. And that is part why, now, war crimes are not crimes any longer and torture, extra judicial killing of prisoners have become our new justice system. O tempora! O Mores!
Do these same folks blast MSNBC or Keith Olberman for saying Bush did it? I seriously doubt it. Media Matters is a Soros controlled organization and the only media that has ever mattered to it is FOX, the rest are just fine and supported by them.
I absolutely love it.
Who really takes Geraldo seriously anyway. People that dont vote. Folks who love Springer and WWE.
Who knows! It probably came down just like the government said it did. The video does look a bit strange, and the collapse was similar to standard implosions, but strange things happen. Maybe that's just how a building that's left to burn down and collapse looks. Haven't seen many to compare it with.
This is how you demonize those who do not parrot the government group-think. Despite the fact that a very large number of experts and specialists also have their concerns, even asking the question will get you branded as morally repugnant. So much for a free, open society.
Building owner Larry Silverstein said he decided to "pull" WTC7. What else could that mean except demolition?
As for the comment re: "common sense" and "simple human decency of elected officials" - what a tard.
World Trade Center Building 7 is without question, "very problematic!" If you ask most Americans, they are not even aware that a third building collapsed on September 11. If a "minor" fire in that type of building can cause a collapse on the magnitude of a demolition impulsion, then every person in this country should be extremely concerned for their safety and those who claim to be educated and trained in engineering should be deemed without merit. It also means that we have government oversight agencies designed to insure human safety and engineering technologies/principles being compromised. Geraldo Rivera and Judge Andrew Napolitano are correct in raising the spector concerning World Trade Center Building 7 and the events of September 11.
You americans make me laugh so hard, it's true power leads to ignorance.