Washington (CNN)–A tax and benefits package negotiated by President Barack Obama and Republicans received enough votes Monday to clear a key procedural hurdle in the Senate, according to an unofficial CNN count. No official final tally has been declared in order to allow voting to continue for senators delayed by inclement weather.
"the Republicans are NOT asking for a tax cut but rather simply keeping the tax rates where they are during the worst economic decline in almost 40 years."
1. So if I ask to borrow your car for the week, do I get to tell you that you don't get to take away MY car at the end of the week because that was the status quo established in the interim? That is essentially what you're saying. These tax cuts were enacted as TEMPORARY. They came with an EXPIRATION DATE. Extending them beyond the expiration date that was inherently a part of them is not "keeping taxes at the lower, existing rate"...it is explicitly extending them beyond their as-written deadline and thereby creating new tax cuts.
2. You admit that the tax cuts have been in effect before and during the recession? Please cite all the evidence that they did any good. ALL OF IT. I dare you to try to list more than...let's say...2 things. Can you make it to three using backup facts and evidence from credible sources? Moreover, the GOP's argument can also be reduced to this..."these tax cuts are the status quo that existed before and during this recession...we need to maintain the status quo in order to make the recession stop." GEtting any cognitive dissonance from that yet? Yeah, it's called ideological white noise.
"When was the last time you got hired by someone on unemployment? What a convoluted attempt at logic"
What a deliberately obtuse, cynical and purposefully irrelevant attempt at one-upping me with a trite platitude. This is what conservatives do EVERY SINGLE TIME you try to point out facts and evidence contrary to their ideological dogma...AVOID IT. If you'd like to try again, that would be fine by me, but please, go read the studies first and understand the point that was being made instead of resorting to oversimplified talking points designed specifically for consumption by the undereducated GOP base.
That will save me more in taxes than I made my first two years out of college....
Republicans ran on creating jobs, yet, they are now like the dog who chased the car, caught it, and asked, "what do we do now?" However, it is plain to see that they have no plan other than, 'tax cuts for the wealthy,' which have failed so miserably during the Bush years. It is time that they come up with a real plan. Boner, what is the republican plan?
If the top 2% made 100% of the income in the United States, would the wealthy republicans complain that they are paying all the taxes?
Bush lost 8 million jobs in his last three years. That is now the basis of the GOP job creation plan.
That's too bad for the citizens of this country......in the long run.
BTW, have YOU ever been hired by a business owner who wasn't making money hand over fist because demand exceeded his ability to supply and thereby justified expansion? The economy is TRICKLE-UP, pal. Learn it. Once it gets in their hands, it stays there unless demand exists to justifiy otherwise. Corporate been cutting their noses off to spite their faces for the past several decades by relying on consumer debt products to supplement the middle-class salaries they refuse to raise. It's far too convenient to pay peopel just enough to survive on by using consumer debt products like credit cards, school loans, mortgages, etc., while simultaneously investing in consumer debt securities in order to earn some of it all back as they meet their high-interest debt service obligations each month witht he very money you paid them.
Hopefully they get this thing passd. If not I may not be able to add the enclosed pool and hot tub to my house. I guess I could just leave it open. I do have the winter home in the south I can go to>