Washington (CNN)–A tax and benefits package negotiated by President Barack Obama and Republicans received enough votes Monday to clear a key procedural hurdle in the Senate, according to an unofficial CNN count. No official final tally has been declared in order to allow voting to continue for senators delayed by inclement weather.
The looney Progressive DemocRATS in the House led by loser Pelosi are the problem. I can hardly wait to see what BS spending they try to extort for their dependents.
Too bad. I wanted taxes to go up on everybody. Maybe Pelosi will derail this so Obummie will have more money to raise the unemployment checks, welfare checks, and more food stamps etc. Take care of me Obummie with your Obummie bucks !!!
Rep. Tanner: I'm no Boner.
Turns out that...Henry E. Hudson, the federal judge appionted by Dubya who ruled against the HCR Bill in Virginia, holds a significant interest in Campain Solutions, Inc., a GOP consulting firm that worked this election cycle with Boehner, Bachman and McCain (among others), helped fund Jaberwocky Barbie's PAC and gets paid to message that the HCR Bill is unconstitutional. Hudson has received upwards of $100K or so in dividends from the firm.
Cucinelli paid $9,000 to Campaign Solutions, Inc. for services in 2010.
WHERE'S THE JOURNALISM CNN?
The democRATS in the House can still stop it in a fit of petulance that gives lie to their claims of bipartisanship. They are so corrupt, and dishonest, that they cannot live up to a deal negotiated by thier own leadership. They want to steal more money to give to their worthless constiuents, while they could care less about the ones who actually work, pay taxes and live responsible lives. Its the olld union thing where you punish success and strive to bring everyone one down to lowest, dumbest level.
I hope the Senate will act in the best interest of the American economy and pass this bill. This would give a strong signal that Washington is serious about getting Americans back to work.
I'm a Democratic Committee person and, in my District, our voters are livid! At this point I simply cannot even imagine going door to door in the next election to ask them to vote or contribute to Democratic candidates. If my district is any example, Democrats can turn the lights out when they leave in 2012. Our leaders have wasted the opportunity to make a huge difference in our government. What a shame.
Well whatever that seems 2 b going on I hope both sides try 2 help the people instead of fighting each other I'm tired of the hissing they all need 2 grow up govern this country & "move forward"
You people hate for Obama shows in your comments, and it says that you are actually hating the man not his policies, it is a shame, because the actual value of this blogs in the discussions not on the relentless hate mongering.
So, what happened to all the republican bs about reducing the deficit?
Too bad ! I wanted taxes to go up on everybody.
I think it is disgusting that people who have been voted out are still able to manipulate the system, forcing through as many of their policies as they can in a lame duck session. I believe that once voted out, they should NOT be able to vote on anything. What happened to the will of the people? We do not want these people making decisions that go against what the majority of Americans want yet that is exactly what they are doing.
857 billion dollars added to the deficit over the next 5 years.And Obama said he was so concerned about the defidit that he appointed a commission to give him guidance.He's notreally concerned at all. This proves it. Only 81.5 billion of this pork bill can be attributed to tax cuts for the so- called rich.
This is such a scam and the Republicans should NOT agree with this Democratic spending spree!! First, the Republicans are NOT asking for a tax cut but rather simply keeping the tax rates where they are during the worst economic decline in almost 40 years. Saying this WILL COST 100's of billions because you are not RAISING taxes is like a car salesman telling you he is LOSING $10,000 because he is selling you a car for a price different than the MSRP. You CANNOT say that EXTENDING CURRENT TAX RATES COST ANY MONEY!!!
Secondly, all these additions by the Democrats (various additional subsidies like ethanol, rum production, etc.) should NOT be approved!! There should be a simple "up or down" vote on whether to extend ALL current tax rates or to let all CURRENT tax rates expire. No in-between. Let's see if the Democrats have the kahunas to RAISE the tax rates on EVERYBODY!!! I don't think they can. They will HAVE TO blink or will definitely be considered the party that screws the low and middle class. Republicans DO NOT want tax rates to go up but the Democrats do. So, how is that whole "hopey-changey" thing working out for you now?
I imagine that having their own tax own breaks taken away by not passing this current bill will make your District Democrats even more livid, Chipster. I can also guarentee you that any candidate who is putting their own relection hopes on raising taxes on Americans isn't going to get past their own primaries.
I'm not looking for hand-outs what I am looking for are jobs. Jobs that are now no longer here due to the economy which was set upu to fail under the republic party.
"This would give a strong signal that Washington is serious about getting Americans back to work."
How? Extending tax cuts for the already wealthy that have been in place THIS ENTIRE RECESSION? What kind of chemicals are you smoking? Studies show that tax cuts for very wealthy individuals do NOT help stabilize or grow the economy. That is FACT. The Dept. of Labor and the CBO ranked atx cuts for the already wealthy as LAST on the list of tools the gov't can use to stabilize and grow the economy. The DOL study was ordered by Dubya too, so don't go blabbering about partisanship and Obama skewing the results.
What did they rank first? UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE...for a whole host of reasons, not least of which is that it's basically a pass-through of money into the economy for all the people it helps keep afloat, who immediately use it to pay bills, avoid foreclosure, buy groceries and gas, etc. Unemployment insurance stabilizes demand and keeps local businesses going and bolsters ecoomic activity such that less people end up losing their jobs during a recession. The studies found that since mid-2008, unemployment insurance created sufficient economic activity to prevent 1.6-1.8M perople from losing their jobs each quarter.
So sure, if you want to say this bill will help the economy, get it straight WHY it will help. Iit's NOT your precious tax cuts for the millionaires you have been deluded into believing you will someday join. It's mainly the unemployment insurance that the Dems have extended several times and the GOP has fought them on every single time.
Finally, something on the news other than Democrats wanting our money for more entitlement programs for the lazy slugs that don't want to put their shoes on in the morning and go to work. Between these slugs and the unions, China and every other country will eat our lunch. Why has everything gone overseas Democrats...because businesses can't afford to operate in this country due to all those union thugs. American needs to wise up before it is too late.
I know GOP supporters are not pointing out whining. GOP holds out then gives Dems no choice and it's the Dem's fault ? Wow. They are ignorant. J. Bouner is a huge hypocrite. He was a Dem, then didn't want to pay taxes after making millions of plastics. Sounds good to the GOP. Rich pay sub 10% and $50,000 pays 30% plus. Great plan GOP whiners.
As Chipster has said, what a waste. Washington is so short sighted that they put the economy of the country at risk by throwing more debt at the problem of too much debt. The weakening faith in the US fiscal position will raise costs for all of us more than any benefit gained by extending tax cuts and additional deficit spending.
Simple observation regarding conservative thought on this issue:
"Extending the tax cuts for the already wealthy, which have already been in effect during this entire recession as we lost 8M jobs, i.e., maintaining the status quo ante recession, will suddenly have a different effect and cause the economy to stabilize and job growth to accelerate."
THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT THEY ARE ARGUING. There is no way around it, no way to spin, no way to characterize it otherwise. It is Einstein's definition of insanity and it has aplpied to GOP/conservative economic 'thinking" for at least half a century, most egregiously with Ronny Raygun's fairy tale of a fantasy land where the money hoarded and consolidated by the rich magically winds up in the hands of the middle-class...despite all the evidence to the contrary, and in fact, evidence showing it works just the opposite...they are still selling the bedtime story. Nite-nite Amurika...die peacefully in your sleep.
I just read that NBA players will save almost 100 million dollars in salary due to the extension of these tax cuts. Why pay off the national debt when you can subsidize the champagne and rims industry. ;) How Americans can be so gulible as to believe that limitting the tax cut to those making under $250K just blows my mind.
"Finally, something on the news other than Democrats wanting our money for more entitlement programs for the lazy slugs that don't want to put their shoes on in the morning and go to work"
Please tell us where they would go to work. You conservatives want to complain about the unemployment rate in one article, where it's convenient to do so, which has risen to 9.8% BECAUSE THE JOBS NO LONGER EXIST. Then you want to essentially complain in another article, where it's convenient to do so, that the only reason unemployment is so high is because people are too lazy to go get a job? WHAT FREEKIN JOBS?!?!? THEY ARE GONE. GONE. GET IT? Setting aside all the research indicating the unemployment insurance is far more effective at stabilizing and setting up the economy to grow than tax cuts for the already wealthy...YOUR HYPOCRISY AND CYNICAL, SELF-SERVING, NIHILIST ARGUMENTS OF CONVENIENCE ARE GETTINNG TIRESOME. Either Amurika is gong to wake up to what these conservative congresscritters are reallyk pushing for or they'll get their way and the REAL revolution will begin. Choose. I guarantee you a future Robespierre exists somewhere amongst the 300M citizens of this country. He just needs the GOP's corporate wh-ring and the Dems' capitulation to continue providing the inspiration and motivation for another decade or two.
The big debt creating republicans, along with the Meth and Mountain Dew tea baggers have destroyed our economy with all their unfunded Bush programs: Wars that were unnecessary, Medicare drug plan, bailing out the too big to fail banks, and tax cuts to those fat cats like Rush Limbaugh, while sending jobs overseas, at the cost of trillions, have created a giant mess. I think it is time that Boner and the Kentucky Turtle start working for all Americans, not just the wealthy.
What did they rank first? UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE...for a whole host of reasons, not least of which is that it's basically a pass-through of money into the economy for all the people it helps keep afloat, who immediately use it to pay bills, avoid foreclosure, buy groceries and gas, etc.
When was the last time you got hired by someone on unemployment? What a convoluted attempt at logic. I suppose that to bring the price of milk down you would subsidize the alfalfa farmer instead of the dairy farmer because cows eat alfalfa?