WASHINGTON (CNN) - A bipartisan group of House members will file a lawsuit Wednesday challenging U.S. participation in the Libya military mission.
Meanwhile, President Barack Obama is set to defend U.S. military involvement in Libya to Congress, according to the White House.
The Iraq War was authorized by Congress. Bush went out of his way to make the case, time and time again. Votes, speeches, UN visits, actual UN mandates ignored for years.
There has been one speech by the teleprompter in chief, with minimal justification and statements that it would be "days not weeks" for the effort. Congress has a duty, an obligation to provide a check against the President unilaterally starting wars without congressional agreement.
I wonder, if Bush had tried anything near this during his term, would the MSM have given it such a pass? NO.
Where's all the anti-war protesters now? Nowhere, because it was always about Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Obama is defying laws, defying precedent, defying the legislative branch. But THAT's ok just because he's got a (D) next to his name?
The funny thing to me is that people think Obama is stupid i'm sure he crossed his "T" and dotted his "I's" as he has people in his admin. that will make sure of it. so you can try to hope the american people will take there eyes off of what they really trying to sneak pass us, and yeah yo can say Bush got approval and all that .. yeah great , but who approved him keeping the war off the budget books which was billions .. did his congress approve that also ? ..
Here's a fun question:
If he does stop all involvement by ordering the ships to stop firing missles, planes to stop doing bombing runs and commanders to stop communicating with their NATO counterparts, how long does he have to wait while not having any military involvement before invoking the War Powers Act again and starting the initial 60 day period ticking all over again?
Have fun with that one Teatrolls.
Didn't Obama tell us we would be in Libya "days not weeks"
But first King Barry, our Grand Imam, has gotten together with his advisors to come up with a reason to be in Libya other than the one King Barry most uses: they are Muslim and I need to protect them and their way of life, even if that means killing Christians and especially Jews. He knows his personal views just won't fly with the taxpayers but then what does he care. They are only tax payers and should want to pay for his ethnic/religious cleansing.
Can't wait for this Bush guy to get out of office and end all of these illegal wars. Hope and change baby!
"Pink Elephant, What the heck are you doing presenting facts to liberals? You know that makes their head explode."
Those weren't facts. Deadline isn't up yet and Congress did not meet the Constitutional standards for "declaring war" on Iraq. That resolution was not a declaraiont of war..it was an authorization for Bush to take military action akin to the type of authorization Obama will or maybe won't receive under the War Powers Act. A declaration of war entails much more. Congress hasn't literally "declared war" since 1942.
The ignorant electorate put an anti-American marxist/socialist in the White House – why is anyone surprised that he now believes he's a little dictator!??? Wake up people and get this national embarrassment out of office in 2012 along with the rest of the socialist democrats!!
just out-cast all these idiots of congress....o.k, what idiots you are electing in House....congress....they are thugs...I mean Thugs....Dennis Kascinch....is an idiot....president has implied powers as an executive....o.k, Read the constitution....he can take the whole nation single-handed....o.k, It is the time for just Revolt....in this nation....Congress is so nonsense....it is all deliberate distraction....
"Obama is defying laws"
There's been no law violated yet. That is a fact. War Powers ACt does not require the POTUS to consult with Congress before initiated the military actions thereunder. Clearly, if he wants to obtain the authorization he would need to continue the action beyond 90 dyas, however, it would behoove him to do so and make his case. He'll be doing so in the next day or so and, if they still refuse the authorization, the military action is of such a nature that it can be stoped very quickly.
Learn your history. The list of military actions taken by presidents from both parties and justified with the War Powers Act and even other legal precedents is actually quite long.
"defying the legislative branch."
He doesn't have to obey them. It's the whole separation of powers thing the WI Supreme Court took a dump on yesterday by basically walking back judicial review jurisprudence to before the Marbury case.
Wonder why these GOP-Tea Party IDIOTS did not sue GW Bush for taking us into 2 unpaid for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq!
that's why we have a great recession...coupled with the tax cuts for the wealthy for the last 10 yrs that is NOT creating jobs, but leading to outsourcing of American jobs!
But guess what?....the GOP-Tea Party presidential candidates IDEAs for creating JOBS is MORE TAX CUTS!!!
this left right thing has to stop. Both parties are corrupt at the top. we should get back to what made our country great in the first place. The constitution. The powers at be want you to stay on the left or the right so you are divided. It the down the middle they fear. Come together if you want change.
You folks are overlooking the obvious. The US is fultilling its' treaty obligations to NATO. The administration anticipated that the "Party of No" by not taking a lead role in the military action. The administration knew the the GOP would try to thwart any attempt to take action against Libya, despite the fact that most of the congressional Republicans had called for swift, immediate action with boots on the ground. (McCain led the chorus.)
By not taking a lead role, we are fulfilling our treaty obligations without being involved in an actual war from a US perspective. How come no one is complaining about our use military forces in Japan?
The little emperor Obama cannot take us to war without congressional approval per the US Constitution. What don't libs get about that? Dummies.
The War Powers act, which may or may not be constitutional does give the president the power to initiate action without congressional approval in case of an emergency due to the nature of modern warfare BUT he still has to go to Congress within a limited amount of time. He has refused to do that in Libya and now in Yemen.
Bush had 2 wars with Congressional approval. Little Barry has 4 wars – 2 without approval.
Good grief. How did we ever wind up inflicting this man upon our country.
Finally. President Obama has caused Democrats and Republicans to look past their differences and unite on an issue of vital importance to the country.
Unbelievable . . . period! You idiots are all over the place sounding like Sarah Palin on crack . . . Who are you people? Obama is well within his rights as the president of the U.S.A. We are not at war with Libya. How sad we are as a country. What happened to us?
"America has lost its sense of goodness"
I see. Is that why we're heling the international community get rid of Ghadafi? Why billions of dollars are spent every year on foreign aid? Why we're one fo the first countries to respond to events like the earthquake in Haiti? I beg to differ. Large parts of America still retain their sense of goodness. People with very little give of themselves day in and day out...to their neighbors, to strangers, to foreigners, etc.
The parts with all the wealth and control, however...not so much.
A lawsuit??? Defund the war and start Articles of Impeachment on a Obama.
File impeachment papers while you're at it.
To all those who are coming up with that 2002 act of the Congress:
THAT was NOT a declaration of war. Read it yourselves and then compare it with the Declaration of War against the Axis in WWII. They are not the same kind of document.
Bush got the very same authorization that Obama is seeking now, not a declaration of war.
And as much as it is painful to you guys, up until 0001 of Sunday, the actions in Lybia are perfectly legal. It's like that scene from the first episode of 'Boardwalk Empire', when everybody knew that at midnight alcohol beverage would be illegal in the USA, so they all drank like it was the last time since it was still legal to do so.
It seems the only bipartisanship this administration can get is to the opposition.
No Congressional approval for Libya ... Increased drone attacks in Pakistan, killing a record number of civilians ... Record US Troop deaths in Afghanistan; of 1,505 total troop deaths, 933 have occurred under Obama.
Weird how we don't hear "warmonger" ... "Obama is war criminal"... "the war is unconstitutional" ... "Code Pink is holding protests in cities across the nation" ... "why are we in a country that did nothing to us"
The sound of crickets is deafening
I'm no Obama supporter, nor a fan of military action.
Obama is probably in the right because the constitution states that all treaties we enter into are the law of the land. NATO is such a treaty, and this is a NATO action and has been for all but the first few days.
Look. Both sides are playing hot potato with this. Don't forget, that the War Powers Act works both ways. Congress has an obligation to take a vote. It does not concisely specify that Congress must be notified prior taking a vote. It specifies a deadline for a vote to be taken. If said vote does not authorize further action, then the action must be terminated.
The House Republicans have already taken a vote (which they passed) on a resolution that was designed to not to take an official vote on Libya. But, by having taken a vote on the issue, Republicans feel that they have met their obligations to the War Powers Act.
President Obama, as a Senator, was at the head of the line picking on George W. about the Iraq war, so it is only fair that he should have his feet held to the fire as well. He needs to 'do as he says' and take responsibility for this and get it over with, so we can get on to more important issues facing this country, like unemployment, the deficit etc, etc, etc.