GOP ties job numbers to anti-tax stance in debt talks
July 8th, 2011
11:57 AM ET
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GOP ties job numbers to anti-tax stance in debt talks

Washington (CNN) - Top congressional Republicans on Friday used the new dismal jobs report to blast Democrats' push for more tax revenue in the ongoing debt ceiling negotiations, arguing that such a move would derail an already shaky economic recovery.

Federal officials reported Friday that the economy added only 18,000 jobs in June - far below the number predicted by most economists. Unemployment inched up another tenth of a point to 9.2 percent.

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  1. I Can`t Stand The Lying and/or Stupidity Any Longer

    I`m a registered, moderate Republican. I`m a former business owner – retired. My workforce totalled about 150 people.

    I hred people when they could bring me additional profit. I DID NOT hire people because I had extra profit sitting in my bank account from lower tax rates. If any owner is honest with you, they`ll tell you the same thing.

    If I needed more throughput Or higher quality to compete, I invested in new & better equipment – I didn`t do it because the Government was offering some investment tax credit. To do so would mean I was suboptimizing my business. Spending on something that I didn`t need – something that did not bring me economic value.

    Tax rate changes of +/- 5% have, at best, a tiertiary impact on jobs. Republicans pontificating about "tax cuts for job creators" don`t know what they are talking about. Think it through people.

    Now, from my selfish point of view, would I have ever admitted the GOP was misleading the country? No. But from an economic / for-profit business point of view, these guys are full of it.

    July 8, 2011 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  2. Bill from GA

    You gotta love how the repugs pick what they don't like and claim THAT is what is holding BACK job growth. Any evidence to back those claims??

    How about the job loss turnaround following the Stimulus? That could be construed as evidence that THE STIMULUS WORKED, and more might work again.

    But no, we get BLAME, and more tax cuts.

    July 8, 2011 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  3. vic , nashville ,tn

    Bill Clinton raise tax and create 23 million jobs

    G.W.Bush gave tax cut job creation almost zero

    July 8, 2011 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  4. Ancient Texan

    True. If a tax increse is passed on the "rich" (snybody but the 48% that pay no taxes), watch unemployment jump much higher. Businesses barely hanging on can't hire and pay more taxes too.

    July 8, 2011 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  5. Expat American

    Where are the JOBS, Republicans? You have failed, as always.

    It looks the GOP might have to resort to its backup laughable doctrine of "Freedom" and "Morals".

    July 8, 2011 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  6. SayWhat

    So let me get this straight. The unsuccessful stategy of reducing taxes to the lowest level since the 1940's has not produced jobs, and the lack of jobs keeps people from buying things in our consumer economy, so businesses will not hire new people and will actually lay people off, so the answer is to keep starving the government of revenue. Yeah, that will work, just ask Herbert Hoover how well it worked when he tried in at the beginning of the Depression. The President needs to go to the America people with a very simple proposal – reduce govenment spending (including the defense budget, eliminating tax breaks for hedge fund managers, subsidies for big oil and agribusiness) while at the same time returning tax rates to what they were before the Bush roll back. Even say le'ts do it only from now until November 2012 and see what the American people think of the idea. Stop being held hostage and give this country the leadership it needs to keep on the road to recovery, not the road to a return to the era of the Robber Barons.

    July 8, 2011 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  7. The Obama Recession Continues Unabated, Obama Depression on the way

    With Obama in the Whitehouse and Reid controlling the Senate dreamin gup new taxes for everybody and refsuing to rein in spending, what business would hire people? And the Obamacare nightmare in progress and going to get worse unless the USSC rules it unconstitutional, Obama and the Democrats have already sealed the fate of this economy. They have brought the European socialist economic coma to the USA. The only way to get the economy going again is to get Obama and the Democrats in the unemployment lines they have done their best to lengthen.

    July 8, 2011 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm |
  8. Peggy - TX

    Time to increase the TAX on the top 25 wage earners in the US and not only repeal the Bush tax brakes, but go back to pre Ragan tax levels!!!!

    Take care of the middle class. Provide saftynets for these folks, reduce health care cost, pay back to social security the Mony I put in there for my retirement and was raided by Ragan to pay for tax brakes for the very wealthy.

    Tingle down economics does not work. What you think that some rich guy gets a tax break and first thing the thinks, is lets hire some once .. what to feed him grapes and wave a fan over his head. Take care of the middle class and they will provide the demand that will pull us out of this economic slump!

    Bottom line is that I have no problem with the very wealthy enjoying their wealth, but if they need to also take care of the middle class, whom the greedy old white guys continue to exploit the labor of for their own personal gluten.

    They want to skim off the cream from the milk, but they do not want to feed the cow. Metaphorically speaking, they want to feed the cow chicken feed and then send it to the butcher every time one gets sick.

    July 8, 2011 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  9. jim

    I'm surprised that corporations have not yet paid off the US justices to have them declare that corporations are religious organizations – so they are tax exempt.

    July 8, 2011 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  10. The Obama Recession Continues Unabated, Obama Depression on the way

    Bill Clinton raise tax and create 23 million jobs
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    Do you know the difference bewteen proximity and causation? Please look them up! By your flawed logic, a 90% tax rate would create 100 million jobs right???

    July 8, 2011 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  11. michaelam

    Get real, John!
    You and your cartel have claimed erroneously for thirty years that lower taxes create jobs. Guess what, John? They don’t! If your claims were even remotely true, we would not have high unemployment numbers.

    Time to get real, John, and face some facts. Also, how many of your cartel’s Teahadist governors kicked state and local government employees to the curb? YOU and your Teahadist cartel have destroyed this once great nation just to gain power and make PRESIDENT Obama fail. I guess “Country First” was soooooo 2008! “Y’all” should be indicted for TREASON!

    July 8, 2011 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  12. T'sah from Virginia

    PLEASE – Stop the SPIN – Who are you fooling?????

    This is July!!! When the TAX BREAKS were extended – the GOPers promised more JOBS!! Where are the JOBS???
    Stop SPINNING this Boehner (and the Can'tor too) – Stop thinking that the American people are STUPID and do not know that YOU PROMISED jobs if you continue TAX BREAKS for the rich and BIG CORPS!!! What about that?

    Don't let the Republicans lead you to believe that it's UNCERTAINTY that is causing JOB LOST – We heard this for the past almost 2 YEARS – more so after the elections in 2010 – It NO LONGER makes sense!!!!

    July 8, 2011 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  13. The Obama Recession Continues Unabated, Obama Depression on the way

    The Democrats solution is to tax the private sector into extinction, take the money and create government make-work "jobs" or just give it to people without any work involved. We need to all become government workers, or be on the government dole. Private businesses would cease to exist. Can one of the brilliant libtards in here please explain to me how this is ANY different than the old failed Soviet Union? I eagerly await your reply!

    July 8, 2011 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  14. Sniffit

    And there you have it. Let's just come out and translate what the GOP's rhetoric really means deep deep down underneath all the flowery ideological promises that magic pixie dust and unicorn farts run the economy:

    "To all of you out there who are extremely rich, who are a giant corporation or who a major players in the finance industry: please, for the lvoe of all that is holy, do NOT pay your workers fairly, give them good benefits, expand your business or, god forbid, create any jobs. In exchange, we promise to give you more tax cuts, take away labor rights and help you get exponentially richer and acquire an even bigger percentage of the national wealth and income than you already have. We promise...we are much better puppets than the Democrats could ever hope to be with their silly concerns about children, the sick and the poor."

    July 8, 2011 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  15. Rudy NYC

    The American people have realized their mistake of granting Republicans any power in 2010. Look at the polling numbers. Look at the recent special elections. Look at the Broom the Democrats using the sweep the House clean in 2012.

    July 8, 2011 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  16. R

    The reality of this, is that both Republicans and Democrats have FAILED in producing jobs.

    T'sah says "the GOPers promised more JOBS!! Where are the JOBS???" What about the Democrats? I've not heard them offer any thing that would promise or produce more jobs. Both sides are more intrested in raising money for their political party and acting like 4 years and saying it's the other person's fault. I want grown ups in congress – now.

    July 8, 2011 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  17. Anthony

    Recession Continues Unabated,

    True, we have a consumer driven economy. By forcing cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, Republicans are taking money and spending power away from the consumers. That would really help the economy.

    By the way, the government is obligated by law to spend on certain things, including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. These are mandatory spending. The president does not get a choice of not spending the money, unless the law changes. Spending on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid is 1.5 trillion this year. There is another 600 billion of mandatory spending. The government pays 250 billion in interest on the national debt this year. Defense spending for this year is 900 billion, including the cost of keeping troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. If the government does not do anything else (no court systems, no border patrol, no health care for veterans, no subsidies for farmers, no disaster relief...nothing), the government would still spend almost 3.3 trillion dollars. The tax revenues for this year is about 2.4 trillion dollars. In other words, even a Republican president would face a deficit of almost a trillion dollars, if he shuts down the rest of the government. Yes, we have a revenue problem.

    July 8, 2011 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  18. surfninja

    Now I understand. Ever since Bush cut taxes for the ultra-wealthy, jobs have disappeared and the unemployment numbers have steadily risen. So the best way to create jobs is to give more tax cuts to the ultra-wealthy. Spock says "that is not logical, Captain."

    July 8, 2011 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  19. Sniffit

    "The Democrats solution is to tax the private sector into extinction"

    Yep, because the private sector went extinct under Clinton and the tax rates we should be returning to. Do you people even listen to yourselves speak or is it just garbage-in-garbage-out all day long with you?

    July 8, 2011 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  20. Bessy

    The job situation is not going to improve UNTIL AFTER the election. Big business is not going to start hiring because they want the Obama administration to go down and this is how they hope to acheive it. Not to mention that they want to get this thing through Washington WITHOUT raising taxes on the rich. Figure it out folks. It is all game playing with the Repugs and they could care less whether people are working or not. They will continue to get their salary.

    July 8, 2011 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  21. Rudy NYC

    The Republican solution is to squeeze the poor and middle class into extinction; give the money to wealthiest who are supposed to create jobs but don't; or just give to corporations without no remorse involved.
    We all need to become serfs, and the government's role. Private businesses would cease to exist, yielding to multi-national corporate might.
    I don't see how this is any different from the vision Stalin had.

    Reply: The USSR had an economic system that was supported by and ran by the government. In the US today, we have a party that is moving is in the same direction, where government and the economic powers are one and the same.

    July 8, 2011 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  22. Sniffit

    "I've not heard them offer any thing that would promise or produce more jobs."

    The Dems spent the past two years offering proposal after proposal after proposal...most of which were shot down through procedural shenanigans and filibusters by the GOP, but some of which made it through...only after the GOP had fairly well ruined them in order to assure that they were not as effective as they could have been. Now, the GOP has a vast majority in the House. Name me something the Dems could propose, something that's not just a GOP ideological policy in the first place, that the GOP would even allow to come to debate or a vote. Go ahead. We're waiting.

    July 8, 2011 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  23. The Obama Recession Continues Unabated, Obama Depression on the way

    The reality of this, is that both Republicans and Democrats have FAILED in producing jobs.
    ========================================================================
    Wrong. Democrats have grown the size of the federal government so have produced jobs your taxes have to pay for, or more accurately, your grand children will have to pay for. Even worse, huge numbers of them were 6 figure jobs. Not to worry though, your grand children can afford it.

    Fact is government jobs are OVERHEAD on the economy. REAL jobs are created in the private sector GIVEN THE CORECT ENVIRONMENT. Obama, Reid and Pelosi have been poisoning that environment for years with Obamacare, threat of higher taxes, rules, regs, demonization, attacks, attacks, attacks. If I ran a business, the LAST thing I would be doing is hiring more people until I know how must the federal government intends to steal from my profits.

    July 8, 2011 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
  24. Indy

    There is 100% proof that tax breaks do not create jobs but the Republicans continue to spew a 40 year old myth that has been proven wrong every single time. It say a whole bunch about Republicans when they continue to use the old crap song about tax breaks creating jobs, and that they lie with a straight face and expect to get away with it, and they need to be punished hard come election time. They lied about jobs and proved it themselves that tax breaks did not create jobs but yet they still spew this crap. Republicans are the party of NO, jobs,brains,thoughts,care,truth and are hell bent on destroying all that is good except of course for the rich corporate elite. Off with their heads in 2012 !!

    July 8, 2011 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
  25. Rudy NYC

    R wrote:
    I've not heard them offer any thing that would promise or produce more jobs.
    --------------
    The truth is that government cannot create jobs, no more than I can grow tomatoes in my backyard. Like the government, all that I can do is prepare conditions in my garden and plant the seeds.
    In order for my tomatoes to fully grow, I must maintain my garden by pulling weeds or putting up fences to keep the deer away. Republicans do not believe in maintaining the garden. They prefer to let the market run wild and wind up with a garden full of weeds, such as we had prior to TARP.

    July 8, 2011 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
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