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Rangel: What would Jesus do on the debt talks?

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Washington (CNN) - Veteran Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel made an impassioned plea to religious leaders Friday, calling on them to lobby members of Congress and the Obama administration to remember the "lesser of my brothers and sisters" during this weekend's debt negotiations.

"What would Jesus do this weekend? Or Moses. Or Allah. Or anyone else," the New York congressman said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. "I don't want this book (debt negotiations) closed without the clergy having an opportunity to forcefully express themselves as well as I know they can do."

Top congressional leaders and the White House have been steeped in contentious negotiations over raising the nation's $14.3 trillion debt ceiling.Treasury Department officials, along with top economists, warn that a failure to raise the limit by August 2 could lead to a global economic crisis and dire consequences for the U.S., including skyrocketing interest rates and a falling dollar.

Rangel said he was stumped as to why Washington wouldn't be "besieged by spiritual leaders saying 'do what you have to do - but not to the homeless, the jobless and the helpless. Not to the sick. And certainly not to the aging that are sick or those depending on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.'"

"I have not heard from those people who have been called by God to protect the poor. I haven't heard them," he said. "The issues that are going to be discussed this weekend involve spiritual, moral issues."

And Rangel's plea to the poor and helpless? Call your religious leaders and ask, "what is Medicare all about? What is Medicaid all about? Why do
we have taxes?'"


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soundoff (105 Responses)
  1. Bill from GA

    I'm sure JC would increase the funding for the Military, like the House repugs just did.

    NOT!

    July 8, 2011 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  2. sue

    God said that when we get to Heaven we will see people that we never thought would be there (the homless man with mental illness seeking some money on the street corner, he'll be there) but he said the one's that we thought for sure would be there will nowhere be found (the rich, greedy man seeking fame and fortune, not helping the less fortunate, all the while proclaiming they are christrians.........these so called christians that seem to thing they know what is right, you won't see a one of them there........

    July 8, 2011 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  3. Bob S Philadelphia, Pa

    This guy got caught stealing and he is worried about what JESUS would do ! He's a freakin crook what a piece of garbage he is

    July 8, 2011 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  4. Dan

    I don't know Charlie, what would Jesus have done on his tax returns the last decade? Seems you're not exactly in tune there...

    July 8, 2011 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  5. sue

    Second thought......I sure don't want to see these Republicans there in Heaven because they will want to make sure GOD is a ONE TERM GOD and try to take over Heaven and run it the way they think it should be run........all the while trying to make GOD Fail........have they got a rude awakening........

    July 8, 2011 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  6. Four and The Door

    The moral thing to do is to not burden future generations of Americans with debt that they will work their lives to try and pay off. And the Republicans have show with the Ryan Plan a way that we can save Medicare and still get a handle on our nation's huge debt load. We do not need to keep raising the debt limit. If we are intelligent we can start lowering it without having to resort to tax increases. It will not be easy but America's future is worth the effort now.

    July 8, 2011 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  7. Mike, formerly from Syracuse

    Hey Charlie, I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't cheat on his taxes!

    July 8, 2011 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  8. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    Unfortunately, religion is a convience to get elected and after being elected it's thrown to the wayside until the next election. What would Jesus do is a great question but we must always remember that it is "HE" whose in control and not man.

    July 8, 2011 05:45 pm at 5:45 pm |
  9. Shawn

    Jesus was about the individual not government. Tax Cheat Rangel should be concerned about his own actions, Don't cheat the government out of taxes, give more to charity etc. People working in their own communities and charities will have a much greater impact on the well being of their fellow man than giving more money to a corrupt and inefficient government.

    July 8, 2011 05:55 pm at 5:55 pm |
  10. Republican Robber Baron

    Greed along with Gluttony were long considered the worst of all sins by the Church. Nice try Syracuse Mike. Your people are the ones trying to justify the Robber Baron elite and Corporatist getting special tax loopholes...many of whom zero out and don't pay ANY tax. While the middle class see pay the lion share, get no wage increases and have all their entitlements cut.

    July 8, 2011 06:02 pm at 6:02 pm |
  11. Finch

    Ok, so if we cut Social Security and Medicare to save the programs. And elderly folks begin dying from malnutrition, hypothermia (because they can't afford heat or air conditioning), or from diseases when they can't afford their care. Who will we have saved Social Security and Medicare for? For younger generations? There is nothing there for them.

    This attitude of "me first, screw the rest of you" is unsustainable as a philosophy and narrow minded as national policy.

    Is there no one to step up and lead this country?

    July 8, 2011 06:03 pm at 6:03 pm |
  12. Sniffit

    "The moral thing to do is to not burden future generations of Americans with debt that they will work their lives to try and pay off."

    Is that why the GOP handed out massive inequitable tax cuts that favored the ultra-wealthy and corporations in 2001 and 2003 and which are the single biggest cause of the current deficit and debt problems we're currentlyl dealing with? Is that why they did it BEFORE cutting spending so that we wouldn't have the current debt and deficit problems? Is that why they're now arguing that those tax cuts weren't a mistake but that we should instead DOUBLE DOWN on them in order to fix the debt and deficit problems they caused in the first place and that in order to do so we should cut societal safety net programs that heled create and grow the middle class in the first place and help us do our moral duty to at least try to take care of the least among us? Wow. You're so right. If only we could make the rich truly rich enough that they finallyk reach the threshold where they actually don't want to keep any more increases in their wealth and income, then poof...what a holy society we'd be. I suppose you agreed with Orin Hatch's assessment that the poor need to do more to contribute to solving the debt and deficit problems, eh?

    July 8, 2011 06:05 pm at 6:05 pm |
  13. ThinkAgain

    Matthew 25:40 "The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’"

    THAT'S what JC would do ... sounds like a Liberal to me ...

    July 8, 2011 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  14. Frank

    Obama and the Republicans don't give a flip about any God on any kind. Their God in Money and Obama has rolled over on his own base. He is finished as president and will never be reelected to a 2nd term. He is like a cardboard box and collapses at the slightest pressure, already 2 tax breaks for millionaires'? A Democratic president turning on Social Security to cheat the old and dying? He is a complete disgrace to himself and the office he holds. He is disgusting and vile and no longer fit for the office he now holds.

    July 8, 2011 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  15. ThinkAgain

    Four .... "The moral thing to do is to not burden future generations of Americans with debt that they will work their lives to try and pay off. "

    Were you posting these when GW Bush was taking the Clinton surplus and turning it into a huge deficit by waging two unfunded wars, cutting taxes during wartime (unprecedented in our nation's history), and pushing through unfunded programs like Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind?

    Just wondering ...

    July 8, 2011 06:08 pm at 6:08 pm |
  16. JEH

    Hey Charlie! What would Jesus do with a man who's a crook?

    July 8, 2011 06:09 pm at 6:09 pm |
  17. b0bc4t

    Jesus probably would NOT have legislated tax law, then ignore his personal resposibility to pay those taxes, and also would NOT claim tax advantages for his "moneychanger" office in a rent controlled apartment, under the guise of "keeping in touch with my constituents" and maintain a "holier than Thou" image all the while, even as his fellow "moneychangers" discredit him for his actions ........ beyond that, I think he would suggest that YOU, Charles Rangel, should put down the stone, rather than cast it against those who are trying to get us to get government spending in check, rather than keep taxing those who are "willing" to pay their FAIR share.

    July 8, 2011 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  18. nintex

    I think Jesus was a Democrat – or at the very least, a left-leaning independent. He only wanted to help the poor, the helpless, the sick; He would have been in favor of Obamacare. The Pharasees were the Biblical Tea Party – greedy, selfish, critical of everything Jesus did and only concerned about themselves and their position, and their main goal was to take Him down. May we all try to be more like Jesus and help those less fortunate.

    July 8, 2011 06:12 pm at 6:12 pm |
  19. The Greedy Old Pigs are fake Christians

    Much as I dislike Rangel, I have to admit he has a point. Christ was about caring for the poor and those in need. The GOBPbaggers care only about helping the filthy rich (which Christ also preached against).

    Simple question for the Greedy Old Pigs (and their teatard supporters here on CNN):

    Average Americans have been forced to make big sacrifices because of the economic collapse. What sacrifices should the wealthy make?

    July 8, 2011 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  20. WDinDallas

    Jesus would say "Repent Charlie, for the time is near."

    July 8, 2011 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  21. The Obama Recession Continues Unabated, Obama Depression on the way

    WOW! A tax cheat wondering what Jesus would do? Jesus would have paid his tax Charlie and not used rental controlled apartments illegally!! Amazing how the Democrats want tyo keep religion out of government, until of course they think they can use them for their political ends. How absolutely dishonest and disingenuous.

    July 8, 2011 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  22. SecedingfromTexas

    "The moral thing to do is to not burden future generations of Americans with debt that they will work their lives to try and
    pay off.:
    ********************
    Pretty words but too little, too late. Hide your head in the sand all you want to, but the fact remains, and will forever
    be remembered that the Bush years put us here.
    1. He never vetoed a spending bill for six years that Republicans held Congress.
    2. He strapped us with a minimum $1B monstrosity called the US Embassy in Iraq. The annual cost of this "City
    within a City" is still unknown.
    3. He started two wars with no funding.
    3. He strapped us with a prescription drug plan that is costly.
    4. His tax cuts do not work, in FACT, he created only (and this is generous) 4M jobs in eight years
    5. He pushed the "no child left behind" program, which is a dismal failure
    So, kiss Paul Ryan's ring all you want, we know his Medicare plan will cost seniors 40% more than they are
    now paying. 30% today vs. 70& under his plan.
    No, I will not do your homework for you, you have to look it up, unless "you can't handle the truth".
    We are strapped, but at least President Obama is trying, and all the Republican Tea Party can do walk out of
    meetings (Cantor), say the "major priority is to destroy President Obama" (McConnell), threaten their own
    Congressional candidates or already elected with "pledges". The only pledge that counts is the Pledge of
    Allegiance to America, and that is every American, not just the pitiful Koch brothers.

    July 8, 2011 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  23. Flint Rock

    Rangel has the right message, but he's the wrong messenger.

    July 8, 2011 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
  24. Larry L

    I've noticed that every Republican sacred cow is something to help the rich. The Democratic initiatives tend to support the needs of the poor and middle class. I guess the real question is would Jesus fight a class war against the poor?

    July 8, 2011 06:35 pm at 6:35 pm |
  25. Henry Miller, Libertarian

    It's not the proper role of religious organisations to attempt to affect American policies. If these organisations want to do things for "the homeless, the jobless and the helpless. Not to the sick. And certainly not to the aging that are sick or those depending on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid," they're perfectly at liberty to do so with their own resources, or resources voluntarily offered by other people. It most certainly is not their prerogative to attempt to influence legislation the net result of which is to force Americans to pay for "entitlements" many think are unwarranted, undeserved, and unearned by those who would rather benefit from the labour of others than to earn their own way in the world.

    July 8, 2011 06:36 pm at 6:36 pm |
  26. Henry Miller, Libertarian

    "The moral thing to do is to not burden future generations of Americans with debt that they will work their lives to try and pay off."

    Precisely!

    July 8, 2011 06:37 pm at 6:37 pm |
  27. Bill

    Rangel is a slug.

    July 8, 2011 06:38 pm at 6:38 pm |
  28. Mike

    Oh so no Charlie is for the integration of church and state?

    July 8, 2011 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  29. AW

    I'm guessing that Jesus wouldn't have illegally taken four rent-controlled apartments from the "lesser of [his] brothers and sisters". Shut up Charlie; you're just as bad as the slimy Republicans who can talk the talk but not walk the walk.

    July 8, 2011 06:40 pm at 6:40 pm |
  30. astro24102

    Charlie Rangel......saying "what would Jesus do" is the so IRONIC. He should have thought about that versus committing so many crimes himself. I can't believe he is still in office.

    July 8, 2011 06:46 pm at 6:46 pm |
  31. Andrew

    Rangel may be a rascal but he's got a Good question. Well? Where are the "God Like" and the "All-knowing-always-right"?

    The Political Christians and the Political Muslims and the Political Jews aren't comfortable doing what Jesus did; helping the poor and skewering the ones who don't as cowards and 'lukewarm pretending hypocrits'.

    This isn't about being kind Charlie: this is about money and politics and more money and politics! This is about the greedy who would see the poor and hungry die like dogs!

    I kinow what Jesus would do if he were here! He'd cast the uncaring lot of them straight into hell! Someday he'll do just that!

    July 8, 2011 06:48 pm at 6:48 pm |
  32. GI Joe

    I just keep remembering that eye in the needle ...............

    July 8, 2011 06:48 pm at 6:48 pm |
  33. Eh??

    Jesus would pee on Rangel - in private, of course - but THAT's where it REALLY matters!

    July 8, 2011 06:51 pm at 6:51 pm |
  34. Rayneee

    I love how Democrats think we need to cut spending, but say that 99% of spending is off limits.

    July 8, 2011 06:52 pm at 6:52 pm |
  35. John/kc

    Jesus said: "A rich man has as much chance of going to heaven as a camel passing thru the eye of a needle". So let's be sure that the rich man gets away with no tax increases here on earth while the country goes into default, because their greed will be rewarded after death.

    July 8, 2011 07:04 pm at 7:04 pm |
  36. Billy

    Jesus told us the Poor we would always have and we have a personal responsibility to feed the poor. Not a tax payer funded way of life for anyone who doesn't want to work for the man. After Jesus also said 'If a man will not work, he will not eat."

    July 8, 2011 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  37. kyle

    He would not take from the poor and give to the rich!!!!!!!!!

    July 8, 2011 07:07 pm at 7:07 pm |
  38. Grant

    Jesus wouldn't get busted for tax evasion, like Mr. Rangel. Maybe we should all be like this guy and see how that affects the budget...

    July 8, 2011 07:07 pm at 7:07 pm |
  39. JB

    Wow – a crook & lifelong politician on the gov't dole – soliciting devine guidance for his personal program preferences ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
    Miserable low-life – - – - -

    July 8, 2011 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  40. Peggy - TX

    Veteran Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel lacks moral authority, but then again he is not trying to speak for GOD, he is not telling us what to believe and he is not trying to judge his fellow man. He is simply asking people to look into themselves and ask what would God want of me right now and for his question is beyond reproach.

    Jesus said that a wealthy man can get into heaven, but it would be like putting a rope through a needle. I interpret that to mean, one strand at a time and lot of work and effort. Why would this be that Jesus would differentiate between the poor and the wealthy when it comes to determine getting into heaven. Maybe because one of the seven deadly sins is gluttony. Maybe because by grabbing all the wealth and the resources of the land provided by GOD into oneself while watching others starve makes the greedy one an accomplice in creating the situation to where others are starving.

    Raise taxes on the very wealthy and keep the social safety nets in place.

    We do not have a spending problem, we have a revenue problem!!!!

    July 8, 2011 07:14 pm at 7:14 pm |
  41. Randy, San Francisco

    Asking that question is irrelevant since the Day of Judgement is coming October 21, 2011, according to Family Radio's Harold Camping.

    July 8, 2011 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  42. Mike kern

    Republicans politicians only believe on Jesus when it's tithing time.

    July 8, 2011 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  43. JB

    @ Four and the door! With all respects why did you go to school? And if and only if! Which economics books did you read? May be the ones authored by necks?

    July 8, 2011 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  44. they call me "tater salad"

    @ Four and the door: If you actually had a clue then I wouldn't have to tell you that the beloved " Ryan Plan" you halfwits seem to love so much will actually add 5 TRILLION DOLLARS TO OUR DEPT IN 10 YEARS!! Maybe you should just STFU until you know a little something about something.......... Or, maybe get off your lazy ass and look into these things and find out for yourself in stead of being just another Faux Noise Channel drone............Typical armchair expert..............NEXT!

    July 8, 2011 07:33 pm at 7:33 pm |
  45. noooooo

    no man knows

    July 8, 2011 07:33 pm at 7:33 pm |
  46. terry,va

    Rangel, why don't you go ask him if St Pete will let you in?

    July 8, 2011 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  47. Oscar

    Jesus said, "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's; give to God what is God's."

    July 8, 2011 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  48. w l jones

    Just think how many young men or women could feed there family if some of these on the job to long people retired. We need new ideal which mean young blood with energy to burn for we the people of America. Bless.

    July 8, 2011 07:44 pm at 7:44 pm |
  49. A Kickin` Donkey

    Someone above said we don`t need to keep raising the debt limit.

    Yes, we do. Unless we can immediately begin to pay down the NATIONAL DEBT.

    We borrow 32 cents of every dollar we spend. So if we could cut spending by a THIRD overnight – which is never gonna happen – the best we could do is balance the budget.

    This still leave a growing interest burden which would grow the debt limit.

    Perhaps now some of you "No additional revenue" people get it. You don`t pay off our debt unless we repeal the Bush tax cuts and close tax loopholes.

    July 8, 2011 07:53 pm at 7:53 pm |
  50. they call me "tater salad"

    Jesus would have avoided his taxes and enjoyed every penny of his " Tax Exempt " status ( and still would have fully expected to have a say in what goes on in this country and peoples daily lives) just like ALL religious zealots/ churches do.........Don't kid yourself!

    July 8, 2011 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  51. Brett, Little Rock Ar

    What?! What does it matter what a 2000 year old figure head would do on policy decisions for the 21st century? Are we bartering in gold and silver again? I know people look to Jesus as a moral compass, but for fiscal decisions why can't these politicians grow a spine with their own thoughts?

    "I don't want this book (debt negotiations) closed without the clergy having an opportunity to forcefully express themselves as well as I know they can do.

    SERIOUSLY! What would the clergy have to add to the discussions?! Are they going to magically resolve debt talks?

    July 8, 2011 07:56 pm at 7:56 pm |
  52. Jen06

    Well, Moses would defer to Jesus who would say ‘THOU SHALT NOT STEAL’ and ‘THE BORROWER IS SERVANT TO THE LENDER’. Allah wouldn’t do anything; he doesn’t exist.

    Soooooooo……it’s ok to get religion involved in government now? Damn Dems keep confusing me.

    Sue, Sue, Sue – are you trying to call Barry GOD?? You won't have to worry about seeing the Repubs in heaven – we'll be there but you won't.

    July 8, 2011 08:00 pm at 8:00 pm |
  53. Delly

    Well. This is exactly what Jesus will do, anyone that caan be bothered to read my weak post:
    Give Unto Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar, and to God what belongs to God. The poor you will always have with you. Love your neighbour as you would love your self. Jesus was and still is the greatest mediator. He would have met some where in the middle with all these issues facing America. He would not have been Democrat or Republican, but a fair balance of the 2. Anyone who loves God and hates his brother, does not know God He says. Jesus is the greatest man and God that ever was ans still is. He is alive in our hearts not because he sought his own selfish ambitions, but because His motive was to empower God and reconcile man back to God. Great mediator!

    July 8, 2011 08:02 pm at 8:02 pm |
  54. Delly

    Empower man I meant to say by reconsiling us back to God. So man can love like God loves.....Jesus came to empower us to live like God in character, not in talent only.

    July 8, 2011 08:04 pm at 8:04 pm |
  55. Sgt Joe

    Who cares?

    July 8, 2011 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  56. Robert

    He said to those who questioned taxes to "Render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar."

    July 8, 2011 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  57. Sank

    He would do something that you Rangel would never be capable of understanding. He would let you know where you came from. The land of where Cain was cast. isn't this the nature of your bearing.

    July 8, 2011 09:01 pm at 9:01 pm |
  58. ED FL

    What Washington DC needs to do is get Rid of Rangels and the rest of the Rangel types that have been in DC for their life and continually bend or break the rules of integrity and honesty that NEED TO BE FOLLOWED BY POLITICIANS. If Rangels stretched the rules in real life instead of political life he would have been in custody Many Many years ago.He has set the standard for questionable behaviour in a once respected employment.

    July 8, 2011 09:14 pm at 9:14 pm |
  59. Nurse Tabers

    Why isn't he in jail?

    July 8, 2011 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  60. JJinCO

    Jesus would lobby Washington just as he lobbied Rome ... meaning not at all. He came down to save the souls of men, not improve government.

    July 8, 2011 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  61. Albo58

    What a hypocritical statement from a thieving cockroach! Retire Charlie and fade into our dust bin of history!

    July 8, 2011 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  62. DinaK

    FREE WILL you moron! Jesus would tell each person to do whatever his/her conscience requires. Taking other people's money and goods because for a cause is not the same as each person deciding where his/her money should go. Jesus wouldn't force anyone to do anything Rangel- and what would Jesus have done with all of those real estate tax breaks you decided to take for yuorself, Rangel? Interesting on how you didn't think about what Jesus would do when you were filling out your own taxes. Liberal hypocrite.

    July 8, 2011 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  63. James

    He would say "give to caesar what is caesar's"! Why didn't you follow that advice??

    July 8, 2011 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  64. MikeBell

    Whoa! Now that is weird. We have social liberals asking what Jesus would do.
    Somehow that does not seem to be a genuine concern of theirs but a play upon the faithful.
    So now they're trying to shame the social conservatives into mugging others to pay for the liberal's social doctrine.
    Surely they're not pushing for a 'State Religion'.

    July 8, 2011 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm |
  65. GOP = Greed Over People

    Charlie, while I appreciate your sentiment, YOU may not be the best spokesman for Jesus!

    July 8, 2011 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm |
  66. s kel

    Im sure Jesus on the cheat Rangels past actions and really disagree with what the tea bagger "Four on the Floor" wrote on that hate ridden,wealthy driven Ryan plan.

    July 8, 2011 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm |
  67. Mike Dallas

    "…From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and from the one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded. Luke 12:48b"

    Something the GOP "christians" seem to have forgotten was in the Holy Book of Fables which was the Holy Bible before the evangelicals made a mockery of it by their "christian" actions toward those less fortunate among us.

    July 8, 2011 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  68. 8 Years of "Trickle Down" economics has only left a dribbling wet spot on working Americans's shoes!

    "I have not heard from those people who have been called by God to protect the poor. I haven't heard them,"

    Nor will you, obviously, they no longer reside in this country. Sadly, the willingness on both sides to throw the sick out in the street, and as you say, not a word is raised in protest to protect them, only proves the very compassionate heart that used to be a moral compass in this country is dead and has been replaced with just a deep, black void. This is what destroyed ancient civilizations and will destroy this one as well. When allowing children and elderly to die due to basic needs not being met, with wealth all around us, can be so casually discussed as "collateral damage" to save a buck, we as a nation are truly doomed.

    Still makes me shake my head when I hear how "exceptional" we are since we are the only country to vaporize 129,000 innocent Japanese civilians in seconds. Do you really believe those decision makers will not pay?

    Many more will pay dearly, especially in Congress, for you will be judged by your actions.

    July 8, 2011 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm |
  69. Mike

    Jesus was all about PERSONAL responsibility. Passing legislation that reaches into other peoples pockets to fund social programs does not score points with JC. His test is whether you reach into your own pocket or give your own blood , sweat and tears to lend a helping hand, not whether the government does it for you through taxation.

    July 8, 2011 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm |
  70. Inrealityhere

    Amazing how liberals cry "separation of church and state" but only when it applies to everyone except themselves! Come on!

    July 9, 2011 12:01 am at 12:01 am |
  71. Anthony Dyer

    Just when you think Rangel couldn't say anything more stupid, he opens his mouth.

    July 9, 2011 12:08 am at 12:08 am |
  72. Inrealityhere

    Well then what do you think Jesus would do about abortion, gay marriages, no fault divorce (BTW, God hates divorce) porn, and all the other things liberals generally condone? I think He would try to save people from it all. Oh yeah, that is why He came!

    July 9, 2011 12:12 am at 12:12 am |
  73. davec

    I thought Dems were big into separation of church & state...... however with all the bad things Charlie has done, he's probably been praying a lot more lately.

    July 9, 2011 12:16 am at 12:16 am |
  74. Bill from GA

    Hey, 4door, don't forget the tax cuts in the ryan plan, so the rich don't have to suffer here on earth.

    It ain't easy, being rich in America. (so I hear)

    July 9, 2011 12:23 am at 12:23 am |
  75. Former Democrat, now an Independent

    Rangle is a complete idiot, and unfortunately a sure sign that Democrats have alot of work to get their own affairs in order. It wont however, begin until the current set of leaders are forced out. The party has become too corrupt to be legitimate anymore.

    July 9, 2011 12:45 am at 12:45 am |
  76. Dan J

    It's laughable that Rangell of all people would be asking wwjd

    July 9, 2011 12:53 am at 12:53 am |
  77. Squigman

    Any time one of these bastards says the name of Jesus, out loud, he or she needs to be taken to task for violation of the separation of church and state. It's a good bet that the person speaking, has spoken Jesus's name for selfish purposes.

    July 9, 2011 01:32 am at 1:32 am |
  78. Aaron

    He should have asked what Satan would do, then looked to Repubs for the response.

    July 9, 2011 01:43 am at 1:43 am |
  79. Kate

    What crap. There should be no call for the opinion of the clergy. Religion has no place in our government. It's not that clergymen shouldn't have an opinion, but rather, why specifically call on people for their religion. And the "Moses" comment is just wrong. To Jews, Moses isn't the Jewish equivalent of Jesus. His entire argument is inappropriate for a secular conflict.

    July 9, 2011 01:44 am at 1:44 am |
  80. Hank

    He might think it was deplorable to leave so much debt for your children to maintain your own lifestyle.

    July 9, 2011 02:31 am at 2:31 am |
  81. colenebaker

    Currently, the cost of health care is rising at a much higher rate than inflation. Even if we were to implement your beloved single payer, at a certain point we can not afford to pay for every new treatment and technology that comes along if we want to have any semblance of an economy. If you dont have insurance you should check out "Penny Health" for information on how to get one.

    July 9, 2011 02:36 am at 2:36 am |
  82. Rickk37

    I am sure Jesus would lie cheat and steal on taxes like Rangel and Gietner.....OH HERE IS AN IDEA!!!! Lets find two of the most corrupt morons from the democrats and put them in charge of both the IRS and and the House Ways and Means committie.

    July 9, 2011 02:55 am at 2:55 am |
  83. independent voter

    One of Christ's greatest virtues was compassion. That is something the republicans lack yet they call themselves christians. And to those who are concerned with leaving a tax burden to future generations...here's a news flash...in surplus or deficit there will always be a tax burden. We saw a surplus during the Clinton administration and we were still required to pay taxes. We, our kids, our grandkids will always be required to pay taxes no matter what.

    July 9, 2011 05:14 am at 5:14 am |
  84. Chuck

    Jesus said give 10% to Ceaser not 50%. Charlie didn't give anything and he wrote the tax code.

    July 9, 2011 06:43 am at 6:43 am |
  85. The Greedy Old Pigs are phony christians

    Much as I dislike Rangel, I have to admit he has a point. Christ was about caring for the poor and those in need. The GOBPbaggers care only about helping the filthy rich (which Christ also preached against).

    Simple question for the Greedy Old Pigs (and their teatard supporters here on CNN):

    July 9, 2011 06:44 am at 6:44 am |
  86. RD

    Jesus, Moses, Allah and othe spirtual leaders would say get government out of the charity business and foster an attitude of individual self responibility and respect.

    July 9, 2011 06:52 am at 6:52 am |
  87. DPB

    Why is Charlie Rangel still in office or even covered by the news...perfect example of why we need term limits...

    July 9, 2011 07:32 am at 7:32 am |
  88. Candy Taylor

    Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. What fruit has the GOP born? Protecting the wealthy, demonizing the poor and working class and pitting one person against another. I think everyone really knows the answer Charlie. But they want to make it all the hate and greed seem so patriot and godly.

    July 9, 2011 07:41 am at 7:41 am |
  89. John Searles

    Good Man Charlie Rangel! Your heart is in the right place. The democratic party is, and will always be, the better defender of the less fortunate. But there are many good conservatives out there as well. It's just a shame that both democrats and republicans now have to depend on contributions from the wealthy and large corporations that do not always have such compassion. It seems now that most people have the attitude that "It's all about me and how much wealth I can accumulate". Christians know Christ's reply to the wealthy man who asked what he must do to follow the Lord. Money is a necessary evil but obsession over it ruins our lives and disconnects us from the very best things in life – our families.

    July 9, 2011 07:54 am at 7:54 am |
  90. clarke

    Jesus would teach every one how to fish.

    July 9, 2011 08:16 am at 8:16 am |
  91. mickey

    now here is a guy who made tax laws and loopholes for the rich and famous,while at the same time was caught in a finanial scandal.remember charlie when your time comes to face JESUS do you think HE is going to let you into heaven. i doubt it!

    July 9, 2011 08:20 am at 8:20 am |
  92. mj

    I'm sure he would tell you to pay your taxes, Moron!

    July 9, 2011 08:25 am at 8:25 am |
  93. T'sah from Virginia

    @Sue – Second thought......I sure don't want to see these Republicans there in Heaven because they will want to make sure GOD is a ONE TERM GOD and try to take over Heaven and run it the way they think it should be run........all the while trying to make GOD Fail........have they got a rude awakening........

    I could not have said it any better!!!!!

    July 9, 2011 08:29 am at 8:29 am |
  94. Duane

    Charlie? Do u libs really taken his guy seriously? He a bad joke at the very best............

    July 9, 2011 08:32 am at 8:32 am |
  95. Ray E. Georgia

    Humm,
    A man that mucked it up in the first place isn't the one to ask. People know what to do, just get Government out of the way. The best, and only thing to do is extend the Bush Tax Cuts for 10 more years, get rid of useless Regulations and things will slowly improve. But, if you are a Liberal Democrat, it is time to say, WHEN IN DOUBT, RUN IN CIRCLES, SCREAM AND SHOUT.

    July 9, 2011 08:59 am at 8:59 am |
  96. T'sah from Virginia

    ["What would Jesus do this weekend?”]
    He would surely NOT complain about how we overspend!
    Especially if the weak, the poor is taken care of
    What would Jesus do – He would show us much love

    ['do what you have to do - but not to the homeless,]
    [the jobless and the helpless] the weakened and depressed!
    [Not to the sick… the aging…] and others who fear
    you taking away their Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare!!

    What would Jesus do – Vote Democrat!!!!
    Yes We Can!!

    July 9, 2011 09:01 am at 9:01 am |
  97. Just As I Thought

    Sue; the one's 'in Heaven will be those who have "trusted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior"........has nothing to do with anything anyone has or hasn't "done".........."not by works of righteousness".......but mainly what you, and sadly to say, many like you, need to understand is; Obama is NOT God, or anything close!
    How is that "hope & change working for YOU?"

    July 9, 2011 09:04 am at 9:04 am |
  98. Mike

    He would do the same thing he did to the money changers, kick them all out...

    July 9, 2011 09:27 am at 9:27 am |
  99. Mike in Wylie

    Rangel is throwing a cheap shot to shame the faithful into turning the other cheek to their mugging.
    Of all people that pull the 'religion card', he is being manipulative.

    July 9, 2011 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  100. HMMMMMM

    Jesus would not have created a system that traps people in government dependancy in the first place. God asks for 10% from everyone, all economic classes, to go to His work through His church. I think Jesus would figure it extremely arrogant that a government would demand 15, 20, 30% or more. Jesus complimented the widow for paying her share don't think he would be pleased that nearly half have no financial responsibility for the country. Jesus grieves over the slautering of the most innocent of human life therefore planned parenthood would be out of the budget. I am surprised this is even a question frrom someone on the left where the idea of seperation of church and state has beeen used to silence Christians when ever possible. Perhaps if welfare checks were sent in Jesus name Rangel would have a point.

    July 9, 2011 10:06 am at 10:06 am |
  101. Mark

    Sue I wouldn't worry about seeing Republicans in Heaven if I were you. I would worry more about whether you were going to be there instead.

    July 9, 2011 10:07 am at 10:07 am |
  102. Jane

    Something is herently wrong when we spend, spend, spend for wars but we can not take care of our OWN!

    July 9, 2011 10:31 am at 10:31 am |
  103. Anonymous

    Jesus would get rid of money...

    July 9, 2011 11:15 am at 11:15 am |
  104. rollenj

    Amazing how that "wall of separation" is oh so thin when it is politically expedient. Does he really want to ask, What would Moses do? Has he read the law of Moses? Has he read the Koran? Or is he just speaking ignorantly, hoping no one else has? Mr Ethics violations has the audacity to act morally righteous on this?

    July 9, 2011 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
  105. rollenj

    Sue, are you saying Obama is 'god'? I realized Obama had disciples who loved him with all their heart, all their soul, all their mind, and all their strength, but this is becoming insanity. By the way, not sure what religious book you are reading, but where does the Bible (Old or New Testament) or the Koran speak to "when we get to heaven..." I have read these books and there is no such reference. I think it is legend, like "God helps those who help themselves." The hatred in American politics is unbelievable and, I believe, it is far worse from the Left than the Right. As one who rejects both parties, I am amazed at the utter self-righteousness that people dress themselves up in.

    July 9, 2011 11:35 am at 11:35 am |