Boehner: Defiant on taxes
July 11th, 2011
01:51 PM ET
3 years ago

Boehner: Defiant on taxes

(CNN) - Speaker John Boehner insisted Monday that the House will not pass any debt ceiling deal that includes tax hikes. He also said the House won't pass a deal that fails to include spending cuts larger than any debt ceiling increase while also constraining future spending.

The speaker said he still has a disagreement with the White House on taxes and the "extent of the entitlement problem, and what is necessary to solve it."

Boehner acknowledged the need for political sacrifice on both sides of the aisle. But he insisted that a potential increase in tax rates was "never on the table" in negotiations.

"It takes two to tango, and they're not there yet," Boehner said in reference to the White House.


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  1. John

    John Boehner you need to stop saying the American people want you to do this and the don't want you to do that. The Truth Is the Only people you Republican are listening to Is the Conservative group you all sign a Pledge with. The Only thing Is you all ready took a oath to the American people when you republican where elected to office. I don't think It right for Republican or Democrats to sign a Pledge to any Special Group. And to rise taxes Is what President Obama say the Taxes would be rise Is two years away. It just flat out wrong for you Republican to sign a PLEDGE to any SPECIAL GROUP. Your only Pledge should be to all American people. All you Republican are doing Is cutting your own neck and you will lose Control of the House and In the Senate. Mitch McConnell think the Republican can win back the Senate ,well he Is dead wrong you will lose seat. the Other American people you Republican don't care about are feed up with the Republican Crap. None of you deserve to be Reelected In 2012 , and you won't be. You Republican have forgot the OATH you took when you took Office. Signing Pledge to Special Group go against the OATH you all took. The OATH you Republican and Democrats was to all American people ,Not to Special Group. I heard what President Obama say and i Heard what John Boehner say and I agree with the President on what he say. You Republican are only saying your way or the highway. This Is not Right, You need to Compromise and you are wrong when you say most people agree with you Republican. And you will find out In 2012.

    July 11, 2011 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  2. Name king

    What is boner and his crew is putting up on the table, they and thE tea. Baggers been screaming bloody hell for the past 2 years it's pitiful. They ran on jobs jobs jobs, but since they took over congress the only thing they've been focussing on other than social issues and taking away folks personal rights is the debt ceiling. They have t focus I second on jobs but blaming the president when monthly job rates are high and taking credit when they are high. Why did the people voted these cronies into power for. The bush tax cuts haven't worked for the middle class for 10 years, but it boasted the corporate folks wages 400 percent. Still these repugs are taking this tax cut stuff to the grave, even though it's adding huge amount of money to the debt every year. I think psychologist calls this insanity. Raise taxes and start focussing on modernization of our infrastructures and transportation, you guys Can wait for you lobbyist to focus on outsourcing jobs and
    and money latter on. let's put America as priority one.

    July 11, 2011 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  3. JEBUW

    Really? Really? Please Republicans, enlighten me. Do you feel there is no room for any compromise? You sit here day after day ripping Obama for everything. Sometimes he's a socialist, sometimes he a corporatist, some times he's weak on defense, sometimes he goes too far and is a warmonger. Please, please let me know what has the right done to fix our problems. How have they compromised one iota. They won't have any tax increase, must have more cuts than increases to the debt ceiling, etc. How has their position changed? How have they compromised? They haven't. Unfortunately, they will get their way because Democrats have to compromise to save the country w/ absolutely no help from the right. This is tremendously sad. I can't believe anyone would vote for this.

    July 11, 2011 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  4. Just Saying...

    the President needs to stop talking with these traitors and just tell us what he is going to do. The 14th Amendment requires that debts be paid and it takes precedence over any debt ceiling established by mere statute. The President can shutdown everything and let the heat fall on the Rethuglicans who created this mess. Or he can say that, given the conflict between the 14th Amendment and the statutory debt ceiling, he is going to ignore the debt ceiling. Then the Rethuglicans in the House can impeach him and then the Dumbocrats in the Senate can vote to acquit. Stalemate, with the Rethuglicans getting nothing out of the deal, except possibly the absolute condemnation they deserve from every American capable of rational thought. Just Saying...

    July 11, 2011 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  5. Dave

    He is defiant, because he and the other Republican signed a pact not to raise taxes. They are under the control of special interests. They could lose their jobs and lots of money if they agreed to raise taxes. Ryan Ellis is just one who they are a puppet too. Republicans are not thinking for themselves, its the special interests groups.

    July 11, 2011 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  6. Republicans - The "Not Intended To Be Factually Accurate" Party

    In plainspeak, Boehner is saying, Republicans will only vote to raise the debt ceiling [and prevent a US default] if:

    – Democrats agree to the spending cuts that we want
    – Democrats forgo sources of additional revenue.

    He is saying, "its our way or the highway". I don't care how much lipstick you put on that pig, it's still an ultimatum. Obama isn't going for that. The Democratic Party isn't going for that.

    Every major deficit reduction plan passed [Reagan's, Daddy Bush's, Clinton's] included a mixture of tax hikes and spending cuts. Reagan's was 3:1 IN FAVOR of Tax Hikes! Most independent & democratic voters see no reason why the rules should be different for President Obama.

    If the GOP doesn't get with the program, by July 21, President Obama will start to unilaterally take steps to stave off default. The 1st step will be to cut back Treasury expeditures by 32% so that our cashflow meets our obligations. The Constitution gives him this authority to keep America's debt valid. How much do you want to bet that the payments he INVALIDATES / CURTAILS / DELAYS will be those that are focused on the wealthiest corporations and individuals? How much do you want to bet that Congressmen won't get paychecks but Soldiers & Social Security recipients will?

    Like Sean Connery said to Kevin Costner in the "Untouchables", Mr. President – What are YOU prepared to do? This ain't no knife fight, Barack.

    July 11, 2011 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  7. Clwyd

    Stick your guns and lead your party to ruin while taking America along with you, you fool. Taxes or revenue go hand in hand with cuts to balance the debt. People do this every day when they find themselves in financial trouble. Keep the loopholes and your rich and wealthy friends happy republicans and you are going down!

    July 11, 2011 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  8. Lynn

    "It takes two to tango".....we're still waiting for Republicans to demonstrate that they are willing to compromise, not dig their heels in even further. This may play well with the base, but it's turning many other voters...namely Independents off to a party that puts ideology above the good of the country.

    July 11, 2011 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  9. Dish

    PPPS OH, am I asking for trouble!

    July 11, 2011 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  10. AK from LI

    No, dump all the burden on the middle class who an least afford it now and has the largest amount of unemployed workers. WHat are the republicans thinking, The rich will not feel the bite anymore than the middle class. Maybe the definition of the rich needs to be redefined to those over $500,000 a year, thats a compromise,

    July 11, 2011 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  11. The Obama Recession Continues Unabated, Obama Depression on the way

    Big whop-dee-doo! Even cutting $2-4 TRILLION in FUTURE spending is a joke. The yearly deficits have been driven to nearly $2 TRILLION A YEAR under Obama and the Democrats. The current debt is approaching $15 TRILLION (PLUS another $38 TRILLION in unfunded liablities) and in ten years will be $29-31 TRILLION!!! Are the Democrats going to expect to raise more taxes to cover this massive debt load? Raising taxes to cover this WOULD DESTROY THE ECONOMY, pure and simple. THIS is why SPENDING MUST BE CUT AND CUT DRASTICALLY. The financial abyss that the Democrats are driving us into is approaching at light speed. Obama and the Democrats have the pedal to the metal.

    The American people issued a restraining order on Obama, Reid and Pelosi in the the form of a record LOSE OF SEATS. The clear message was STOP THE SPENDING MADNESS. But it appears the Democrats and Obama believe their own spin instead of the American people. The final mass removal from office will happen in 2012.

    Democrats want to increase taxes "on the rich", which is defined as anybody running a business or anybody making over $250,00 a year. Now these are just about the only people left in this country actually paying taxes. The great welfare society of the Democrats has now given a complete pass on taxes to nearly half the people in this country. Even worse, the tax code is used as a welfare system, giving people even more money BACK than they would have owed.

    July 11, 2011 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  12. The Real Tom Paine

    Well, it does take two to tango, Mr. Speaker, and you may as well be outside the dance hall. Its ridiculous that all the concessions have to come from the Dems at this point, and the GOP is brushing aside any suggestion that defaulting is anything really significant. The world still looks to us for economic leadership, and if we don't do something, the results could eb catastrophic. I know the GOP wants the country to default, so they can set up the Koch-head paradise they all seem to think would be wonderful: the problem is it could take decades to recover. It took almost 2 decades to recover from the Crash of 1929, and it took a world war to really get the economy going. Does the GOP plan to keep us in a perpetual state of war to pull us out? I hope they are not really that cynical, but I'm losing hope.

    July 11, 2011 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  13. David

    Wow Bonehead is actually going to force the country to default, I know you can see that Obama solving the debt issue will eliminate your main attack angle in the next election but come on, country first – and you acting like whining babies while Obama is the adult in the room is going to backfire on you anyway. I think the fake tanner is effecting your brain.

    July 11, 2011 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
  14. ABM

    FIRE BOEHNER!!!!! FIRE the GOP Congress!

    You say no to tax increases on businesses and the wealthy and I will say NO to the GOP in 2012.

    This is a total farce.

    July 11, 2011 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  15. Mojojo

    Republican's are going my way or the highway, NO Compromise whatsoever, they want to give more for rich and less for Middle Class go hell GOPs.........

    July 11, 2011 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  16. Donkey Party

    GOP corporate-owned lapdogs, every effing lousy one of them.Hell is going to be short of space after these GOP scum expire.

    July 11, 2011 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  17. Tony

    Still pursuing the "No Compromise No to everything" policy and for what because President wants everyone to carry their share of taxes i.e. Corporations will finally have to start paying their taxes. Ho ever is pulling these string literally would rather see a global collapse than compromise. I am so furious at this Congressional leadership.

    July 11, 2011 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  18. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    The problem in Washington is we have people making decisions who are not economist nor have they been back to school since they graduated, they're learning on the fly and that's not good. We need recent college graduates of economics and not politicians who rely on each other when neither knows more than the other. That's what's wrong with this whole country, we have people still operating in the stone age and not the new era of the brightest and most intelligent minds.

    July 11, 2011 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  19. Mercker

    10 years ago I was doing fine. Now I'm just getting by. I've had to sacrifice, so why can't the rich. I don't think paying a couple hundred dollars more a year in taxes is going to effect the rich as much as my frozen pay and the increase in every bill I have, has had. To all you Joe the Plumber's out there. Stop defending the rich! You will never be rich and you will never be invited into their excusive group. They don't need your help and the don't like YOU! Just please, stop shooting yourself in the foot.

    July 11, 2011 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  20. Taxthewealthy

    It takes two to tango, and they're not there yet," Boehner said-The republicans are protecting the wealthy and want to break the back of the middle class. It is time for the wealthy-who pay the least percent of taxes when tax breaks are figured in, need to step up to the plate. End the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy! Look at everything, including the sacred cows. End the 3bil. oil industry welfare. At one point, our nation spent more on military than the next 8 countires combined. The Repubs got us into this mess, and know they think they know how to clean it up. Ha.

    July 11, 2011 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  21. Marie MD

    Boner, boner, boner, you re such a lousy human bein. Must be all thatnorange crap you putnon every morning.
    BTW you arse hole .... SS and medicar are NOT entitlemenrs! What's entitkement is the shrub's tax cuts fornthe richnsonthey canncontinue to get richer at thebexpense of seniors, thebpoor and the middle class.
    You increased tye debtnceling seven times during then previous administration!!!
    Why don't you go and sacrifice yourself? I amsure the god of greed and everything that is wrong with your rethugs needs a sacrificisln virgin. As a matter of fact go sitnon a orner and cry for whatnis going to happrn whenyou next come up for election. Nyou and your cronies are all pieces of human trash!

    July 11, 2011 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  22. V in Chicago

    By all means. Protect those rich donors (and yourself) over and above the good of the Country. Stick to your guns John. You are going to bury yourself and will no longer have a job to go to if you keep up the foot stomping. The only way to get this done is by compromise. A word you may want to look up in the dictionary. It doesn't mean refusing to make any concessions. Any, by the way, since I have been paying in to Social Secuirty and Medicare since I started working at age 15, I am offended by you and your party when you refer to them as "entitlements". I worked for that money and the government borrowed it with a promise to pay it back to me in my later years. How dare you (and your Party) act as though my Social Security and Medicare are in the same basket as welfare. From the lack of work I've seen done by those on the Hill, I think your slaries are "entitlements". You sure haven't earned them. How about we cut those? Sound good to you?

    July 11, 2011 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  23. Republican Robber Baron

    Boener , Cantor, Fox and friends are snake oil sheisty salesmen. Just be honest for a change and admit the Republican agenda is to destroy all Entitlements and give it away to their Big $ Corporatist masters. Wall Street and Big Pharma are waiting for some suckers to vote for their snake sauce gimmick.

    July 11, 2011 02:30 pm at 2:30 pm |
  24. Uh---What?

    It takes two to tango, and THEY'RE not there yet? Yeah Boehnhead-"Raising taxes isn't on the table. Democrats aren't willing to compromise." I'm not sure how those sentences makes sense...isn't Obama the one looking for 4 Tril in cuts and the repubs were first putting out 2 T in cuts? Not only is Obama and the dems trying to cut MORE...but they're also trying to do the inevitable, RAISE TAXES. Before Reagan, taxes on the wealthier was much higher, and our infrastructure flourished because of it...and that's just one instance. It takes two to tango, right Boehner? Best learn to tango or get to steppin pal cuz 2012 is right around the corner.

    July 11, 2011 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  25. Let's get rational now

    "Boehner acknowledged the need for political sacrifice on both sides of the aisle. But he insisted that a potential increase in tax rates was "never on the table" in negotiations." Loosely interpreted, the looney bin side of my party is on my behind and won't let me agree to anything without signing some sort of stupid pledge. This is so stupid. David Brooks said it right. Obama handed them a gift on a silver platter and they are either:

    A. too stupid to accept it OR
    B. too stupid to accept it

    These were not even tax increases. They were closing tax loopholes. Even Cantor and Boehner admitted that. The trouble is that you can't argue with the loonies. They know better. They have God on their side (or they think they do). The republican party I used to know and love was gone a long time ago and is replaced by do nothings who wouldn't know a great idea if it slammed them in the face.

    July 11, 2011 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
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