(CNN) - He may not agree with the vote in New York to legalize gay marriage, but former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said the Republican Party should butt out of the bedroom and stick to fiscal policy.
"I think the Republican Party would be well advised to get the heck out of people's bedrooms and let these things get decided by states," Giuliani said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." "We'd be a much more successful political party if we stuck to our economic, conservative roots."
Giuliani, who is considering a run for president in 2012, has long supported civil unions. Although he said he believes marriage is between a man and a woman, he can "live with" the legalization in New York.
"I think it's wrong, but there are other things that I think are wrong that get decided by democratic vote," Giuliani told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley. "I see more harm, however, by dwelling so much on this subject of gays and lesbians and whether it's right or wrong in politics."
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Poor Rudy, the conservative base of the GOP is Evangelical Christians, and our moral guide and rule book tells us that sodomite acts are wrong just like adultery, fornication, murder,ect... The GOP has left its morality and I am about to leave the GOP.
So what would happen if the majority of voters in a state decided to re institute a ban on black/white marriages? Or separate but equal schools? Or Prohibition? Or slavery?
No, Prop 8 is wrong – marriage is a right, not a privilege – the anti-gay folks have never shown any harm to society resulting from same-sex marriage, only Biblical objections. It should not be subject to a vote, any more than any of the other rights we enjoy.
I wish they republicans would stop with social issues then I'd actually vote for them. I'm a social liberal and a fiscal conservative and it ticks me off that the only two choices are completely liberal or completely conservative, it's a choice between the lesser of two evils and since I don't want to live in a christian theocracy I have to vote democrat.
This is why I will NEVER EVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN!!! Even though I am straight , I support same sex marriage. And the LBGT aint gonna forget what they have done. which is why the LBGT in new york at least will vote next year to keep that fool as well as his supporters out of office cause if he becomes president he would try to do the same thing Bush did and clasify marriage as one man and one woman and try to ban same sex marriage nationwide sine the republicans appeal to the church and the evangelical voters.
The point is that gay marriage IS a fiscal/public matter, not merely a private matter. Male-female is the only combination of people that can make children, and it is important for the State to support the lifetime unions of those who procreate so that kids can have their moms and dads and so that the government does not become responsible for the upbringing of children and/or the single moms. Same-sex marriage breaks the procreative connection to marriage.
Gay marriage brings the gay bedroom into the public classroom. Gays do not want it to be a private matter; they want to throw it in you and your kids' faces, force you to "agree" with it..
I would have a much better respect for republicans if they all thought like this. It's OK for people to believe gay marriage is wrong, but keep it out of politics! Equality for all, legalize gay marriage and be done with it. This should not be a focus at all in government.
As a conservative, this doesn't mean a republican who is for gay marriage rights can win the republican vote in the south.
If you want to preach morality, become a minister.
"Economic Conservative Roots?"
Now that's funny!
The GOP straying from politics no way, with all the people they have talked down to this year what does a GOP supporter look like. Gotta go Clone Wars is on!
Giulani has the right to think same sex marriage is wrong. But good for him for admitting he doesn't have the right/need to decide if it's wrong for others.
Here is another question, why is what people do in there beds a political issue PERIOD. No on owns marriage, it's been around and practiced with same and opposite sex for many years its older then the religion that claims the practiced. This whole leave it to people to vote on is like telling people to vote on interracial or inter-religious marriage, when will there been a vote on atheism?
Giuliani to the Taliban...stay out of gay marriage....womens rights....right to an abortion....religion....personal freedoms.....give aways to the rich....social security....medicare....
To bj, who wrote earlier:
"i agree with mr. guliani that states should decide and the GOP should stay out of the bedrooms...however, that would mean the democrats would need to do the same...and that just isn't going to happen.
in witnessing prop 8 in california, the people had previously voted against gay marriage. liberal groups did not like that and had it overturned in he courts. prop 8 was formed to reaffirm the will of the majority of voters...and it passed. again, it was taken to court and overturned (by a gay judge who did not unbiasedly reveal his orientation until after ruling)."
Well, bj, the problem is you'd have to first accept Mr. Guiliani's argument, that this is a matter that should be left up to the states, which I don't. It's a matter of civil rights and civil rights matters are not one which are up for debate for each individual state to vote on. If we left civil rights up to popular vote, slavery would still be in effect in this country.
No, the morality issue must be the #1 priority for GOP because it is the most urgent in USA.
A republican backing silly, christian values?!? You dont say!
We can only hope that the GOP doesn't take Mr Giuliani's advice, and thus ends up out of the money in the 2012 race. My compliments to Mr Giuliani, nonetheless, for trying to inject a bit of rational thought into what has become an irrational and ideologically hidebound party. Oh yes, by the way, my advice for the GOP is, as always, NO NEW PLEDGES!
And while they're staying out of people's bedrooms, they need to stay out of women's doctors' offices, too. for people who say they're all for personal freedom, they sure don't respect other people's freedoms. just more hypocrisy from the spendtrifts who drove a surplus into a record deficit while claiming to be fiscal conservatives. yeah, right!
The Republican party has no credibility left on financial issues. Their cry of "Tax and Spend Liberals" now sounds like the way things should be: have or raise the money for something you want to spend it on. The Republicans have become the party of "Cut taxes and keep spending more anyway!"
This is NOT an endorsement of Democrats. They stink too but have more credibility financially at the moment. The bailouts were a bad idea under Bush and still a bad idea under Obama but to hear each side tell it, it was OK when THEIR guy did it but just awful when the OTHER guy did the same thing.
If everyone would vote independent, things would have to change. But, America, you aren't gonna do it. You love YOUR guys too much.
Rudy, stay out of the GOP. We already tried a moderate like yourself in 2008, now we are stuck with Obama. FYI, there is more to governing the country than fiscal policy. Just because you do not value the protection of the family unit, does not mean that the majority of Americans share that perspective.
Read between the lines.... Rudy supports Gay marriage but is afraid to say it because the right wing GOP will basically cast him out! Sad but is..... Rudy is right!
he is right and i actually thing he is good guy and politician, but he could of said this a long time ago. this is the kind of thing he knew should of been and people know but because they were getting their way and being heard on thier anti gay crap they stuck with it, now that are losing the battle they want to back out and act all humble and go "this is for the best, focus on fiscal issues is the right thing to do." you should of been focusing on fiscal issues all along, when they were needed, that would of been the right thing. anti gay views were never needed for anything! if their views were still holding strong with the majority like they were, he would not be saying this. Right thing to do? sure, but he is not doing it cause its right, he could of done the right thing a long time ago, its just a political maneuver for their party not the country.
Unless the laws have changed and the granting of a green card can be given by a state (which it can't), marriage is a federal issue.
I don't think gay marriage should be left up to the states. Marriage status affects taxes, insurance, inheritance, visitation rights and many, many other issues – not just who you leagally sleep with. If the federal and/or state governments want to have laws based on marriage status, they should not limit who can be married to whom. Do away with the laws or the restrictions or better yet – both!