Washington (CNN) – Republican members of the Congressional debt-crisis "super committee" met behind closed doors for the first time on Capitol Hill Tuesday.
Congressional leaders from the House and Senate formed the committee earlier this month after raising the nation's debt ceiling and tasked them with finding an additional $1.5 trillion in savings over the next decade. The 12-member bipartisan panel must propose cuts by November 23rd and hold votes on the cuts one month later.
If Congress can't agree to those reductions, automatic cuts will take effect in programs like defense and entitlement; something neither party desires.
The meeting began at 10 a.m. ET in the Cannon House Office Building and ran well into the afternoon.
Co-chairs Rep. Jeb Hensarling, (R-Texas), and Sen. Patty Murray, (D-Washington), announced that Mark Prater will serve as staff director for the committee. Prater is a currently a Republican aide on the Senate Finance Committee.
After the meeting wrapped at roughly 5:15 p.m. ET, Hensarling said, "Last week Senator Murray and I encouraged members of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction to engage in active and useful dialogue on the committee’s work. In that spirit, committee Republicans today discussed the work that others have contributed to the cause of deficit reduction and how we can work with our Democratic colleagues to achieve success," in a written statement.
"These conversations will continue, across the aisle and among each caucus, as everyone prepares for the first meeting of the full committee,” he pledged.
–CNN's Ted Barrett and Kate Bolduan contributed to this report.
Its crunch time now. The politicians won't be able to hide behind rehortic and lies. Lets see who the Repubs burden with most of the pain: grandma living on $600/mo or Mr. Greedy Corporate Man living on $600/min. Lets see if they go to creat descent job or send more jobs overseaas. My personal take: the GOP'ers will show that they are the party of the rich, for the rich and by the rich.
No doubt they are drawing straws to see who gets to stage the hissy fit walk-out in response to the Dems fighting to close tax loopholes and get rid of preferential deductions all of which solely benefit the rich and extremely wealthy corporations, etc. Runner up gets to make the speach claiming that it's actually the Dems who are trying to hold everything hostage and then segue inartfully into a demagoguery session about the $500B that will be cut from military expenditures if the trigger gets flipped because the Dems won't agree to the GOP's demands that SS, Medicare/caid and various other societal safety nets be obliterated.
I hope they begin by cutting Eric Cantor's pay.
Partisan games have begun already.
If Obama's stimulus had worked as promised the economy would already be growing faster and would be creating jobs faster and unemployment would not have gone above 8% and would be well below 8% by now.
Exactly what Obama jobs plan have the Republicans blocked? Republicans voted for the payroll tax cut and have voted several times to help pass unemployment extensions. Obama recently said extending unemployment again will create a million jobs. If that is true there should be several million new jobs from the past unemployment extensions that were passed with the support of Republicans. Of couse it is all an Obama fantasy that an unemployment extension will create a million jobs.
Obama and the Democrats are expecting Republicans to block Obama's plan. But from what I am hearing may be in it, there will be a fair amount of common ground. Republicans will support the new trade agreements being talked about and the patent reform Obama has talked about. Many Republicans will also support a new extension of unemployment checks and the payroll tax cut. There may be some things in it that Republicans will not support and some they may want to modify. If Obama is willing to compromise, I think a deal can be made and passed with Republican support.
But based on what private sector business is saying, none of this is going to help much. The private secotor has been saying loud and clear for some time now that the biggest problem holding back expansion and creating jobs is all the new regulations poured on them over the past 3 years. Obama did announce last week some regulations that will be rolled back. The US Chamber of Commerce said that it was a welcome change in the right direction, but that changes Obama is making will have little positive impact. Obama did not roll back any of the regulations that are having the biggest negative impacts on business growth. At the top of the list is Obamacare, the Financial Reform bill and the new EPA regulations that will be driving up the cost of electricity soon. Republicans announce yesterday that they will be passing a series of bills to roll back many of the regulations that the private sector has identified along with some tax relief also. These bills will be passed in the House and sent to the Senate where they are certain to be killed. In addition, Boehner is asking the White House to provide congress with estimates on the economic and jobs impact of 200 plus new regulations that are currently being discussed so the the public can be made fully aware of the potential impacts. This will become the single biggest jobs creation and campaign issue between now and the 2012 election. The private business sector is saying they need government to get out of their way. Republicans will pass bills to do just that and Obama and the Senate Democrats will say no and kill them. This will become a very heated campaign debate. The private sector will be openly saying that regulations passed under Obama are what is holding back the economy and jobs. And two of the biggest items will be Obamacare and the EPA regulations that are in place of Cap and Trade, just like Obama promised would implemented through the EPA if congress did not pass Cap and Trade. A majority of voters have never supported Obamacare of Cap and Trade and they will be the center of a hot debate over government regulations that are impeding job growth. Even with the passage of a new jobs bill with bipartisan votes, unemployment is certain to remain well over 8% come election day 2012. Republicans will not have blocked Obama's job plan. But Obama and Senate Democrats will have blocked many Republican bills that the real job creators in America say are needed to get government out of their way so they can create jobs. This will be the biggest campaign issue and debate of the 2012 election. And it is one Obama and the Democrats are going to loose by a landslide
More of the same tired nonsense. Why not meet together, democrats and republicans, from the start? Show the American people you mean business. But no, why would these idiots do something that bright.
Fire them all. Cut their darn pay. They haven't done squat since 11/2010. The economy has gotten worse, no jobs have been produced and all they have done has complained about Obama and the lazy American people who can't find a job.
By the time these guys are done America will be a second tier country with millions of poor, unemployed people. To think we were once a shining example for the world. Now we look like fools.
It's always grand for America when these snakes start huddling behind closed doors.
The Dems will ask that pensions be increased. That welfare be increased. That amnesty be extended to all and in the meantime continued social programs for the illegal aliens in the country. Anyone who disagrees will be told they are only for the rich
Tea Party Mike, it may have escaped your attention that the GOBP has opposed many job creating initiatives proposed by President Obama and the Dems, with green energy initiatives being one you should be able to recall off the top of your head. Since you apparently couldn't remember the teatards obstructing this, a mind is a terrible thing to waste. Also, if you need more evidence, just watch the GOBP oppose any federal spending on infrastructure improvements, despite the fact our nation has a very serious and growing problem with decaying infrastructure.
So now what should be public is done behind close doors with only 1/2 of the interested parties.............................repuks r such DECITFUL and TRIFLIN creatures. NO morels at all.
The Tea Bagger Party, I mean GOP, super committee members are getting together behind closed doors to find creative ways of saying "no" to everything Obama proposes. After all, their only concern is destroying our government and electing on of their awful politicians like Bachmann or Perry in 2012.
It's not about us people so don't feel offended whether they meet behind closed or open doors, it's never gonna be about us.
We used to have a word acronym for this same situation in the service, SNAFU and it is now so appropriate !
"The Dems will ask that pensions be increased."
That's not been asked for as part of any of these negotiations or as part of any Obama or Dem ploicy platform over the past several years, so whoever told you that or made you think it is clearly just a giant asshat.
"That welfare be increased."
"That amnesty be extended to all and in the meantime continued social programs for the illegal aliens in the country."
You are a very VERY sad and confused individual, but we thank yuo for providing pristine examples of the kind of messed up thinking that the forces the relatively sane portion of this country to have to swim upstream to make any progress on anything.
"Anyone who disagrees will be told they are only for the rich"
People who support preferential tax depreciation scales for private corporate jet owners over the commercial airliners (who pass the cost to consumers who are overhwelmingly middle-class) ARE for the rich. People who think tax cuts FOR THE RICH and for corporations eventually trickle-down in the form of job growth and business expansion despite 30+ years of data showing that it simply gets pocketed ARE FOR THE RICH. People who think that social assistance programs that benefit the poor and middle-class shoudl be cut while the rich and corporations not only avoid tax increases but, in fact, receive extra tax cuts ARE FOR THE RICH. This is not a debateable thing. It is by definition. If I believe that everyone should eat chocolate and that nobody shoudl eat vanilla, then I am, by definition, for chocolate. The GOP and its vast tinfoil-hatted army of teatrolled true-believing minions believes that everyone, including the gov't, should cater to the rich and corporations in hopes that the table scraps "trickling down" will get better and that the middle-class and the poor should accept their status and place as the begging dogs at their feet. The GOP is, by definition, FOR THE RICH.
The Dems will ask that pensions be increased. That welfare be increased. That amnesty be extended to all and in the meantime continued social programs for the illegal aliens in the country. Anyone who disagrees will be told they are only for the rich"
And the (R)s will simply ask for more money for their rich corporate cronies based on the fact-proven lie that tax-cuts for the rich create jobs(see current unemployment rates), then they'll go ahead and cut funding for anything that benefits anyone below the upperclass line (ie; the middle and lower class). They will use codewords like "job creators", "entitlement", "welfare", and "socialism" to blur the lines between what their interests are, and what the common people's is, further keeping their mindless followers further confused and uninformed about what is really right for the country.
Those followers will hit the message boards reiterating all the same talking points, and wont be convinced otherwise, that the few things they keep fighting for, are actually the few things working most against their best interests. unless those interests are increasing profits for huge corporations and making the rich even richer, at the expense of what was formerly known as the "Middle Class", since America's working middle class jobs have now been shipped over seas...
But hey... dont let common sense get in your way of pleasing your like minded water-cooler (if u have a job) conversation buddies who share the same views and spew the same misinformation regurgitated over and over again on Fox News or in one of it's guests latest book.
" If Congress can't agree to those reductions, automatic cuts will take effect in programs like defense and entitlement; something neither party desires."
So, my question is: What are these "automatic cuts?" I mean, the republicans have already shown they dont care if the normal American is hurt by their actions, so what do they have to lose by not agreeing to anything? Looks like they can just sit and say "no" without much affect to themselves at all. I highly doubt these "automatic cuts" also include a cut of the bush tax credits for the weatlhy now do they? But Im sure they include a cut in programs for the countries most needy.
@The Greedy Old Pigs have declared class war on US!
Tea Party Mike, it may have escaped your attention that the GOBP has opposed many job creating initiatives proposed by President Obama and the Dems, with green energy initiatives being one you should be able to recall off the top of your head.
You are correct, I do not recall any green energy or any other job creating initiatives proposed by Obama and the Dems and blocked by Republicans. Did the Senate pass these bills? Don't recall any.
I do recall billions in the stiumulus and also in the first and only budget passed by Obama and the Democrats for green energy. And I do recall a very recent article in the New York Times that said the stimulus failed to create the green jobs as promised. If the Republicans really did block more spending on top of the billions Obama and the Democrats are already spending on green jobs, that was probably a good thing becasue it does not seem to work.
Forget about substantive tax and spending measures and instead concentrate on what new strategem will be used to kick the can further down the road when this effort fails before Thanksgiving. Let's be honest.
can we come togeather and work for some solutions
other than mrs Bachmann and Mr Perry.
Did they want to see if they could come up with a new way of saying NO?