Conservative leader discounts Paul win
October 10th, 2011
09:44 AM ET
3 years ago

Conservative leader discounts Paul win

(CNN) - The president of the Family Research Council characterized Rep. Ron Paul's weekend win in the Values Voter Summit straw poll as "an outlier."

Tony Perkins, who heads the social conservative group, said the Republican presidential candidate influenced the results by busing supporters to the event, proving his 37% support is not reflective of social conservative backing nationally.

"I think Ron Paul, when you look at everything is an outlier in this poll," Perkins said Monday on CNN's "American Morning." "You see Herman Cain finishing a strong second, followed by Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry. Those are more reflective I think of actually the other polls and what's happening in the social conservative community."

Paul, the longtime Texas congressman who is making his third bid for the White House, led the field of GOP candidates including former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain with 23%, former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania with 16%, Texas Gov. Rick Perry with 8%, Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota with 8%, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 4% and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with 3%.

Thanks to strong support from his followers, Paul has come out on top in many of the most prominent GOP presidential nomination straw polls over the past two years. He won the Conservative Political Action Conference contest in 2010 and 2011 and the straw poll at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference earlier this year.

Perkins also connected the sentiments of the Occupy Wall Street movement with those of Paul supporters, over 700 of whom voted in Saturday's survey.

"We should not discount there's a lot of discontent with big ineffective government that's taking place in this country, and I think the Ron Paul campaign reflects that," Perkins said. "The message of his campaign is sending is something other campaigns have to listen to as well."

Romney won the straw poll during his last bid for the White House in 2008 and Perkins attributed his drop to decreased attention over values issues, despite articulating "those values this year" during his speech.

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soundoff (240 Responses)
  1. Muchma Qoochie

    Ron Paul will shock you.

    October 10, 2011 11:12 am at 11:12 am |
  2. um

    What happened to separation of Church and State? The Family Research Council is an Fundamentalist Evangelical group and they shouldn't have any say in politics. I'm sure they also have tax-free status.

    Values Voters? Right...because only the Fundies have "values", doncha know?

    October 10, 2011 11:12 am at 11:12 am |
  3. Tannim

    Of course Tony "Psycho" Perkins would discount his own poll results, because his own preferred choice (Perry) tanked. If Perry had won, he'd bee crowing the resutls to the high heavens. Just another indication that Perkins and religious right have had their day and are done, no longer relevant.

    That, and apparently Perkins never bothered to listen to Dr. Paul's speech, which laid out the correct linkage between limited government and religious freedom. Perkins is one of those types who religious POVs is so weak that he needs big government of a social reactionary conservative bent to have it even survive. If it was truly resonant with people, it would not need that crutch, and even the Christ that Perkins claims to follow eschewed state support of religion.

    October 10, 2011 11:13 am at 11:13 am |
  4. pete

    When anyone else but Ron Paul wins there was great grassroot support and that candidate has a bright future ahead. When Ron Paul wins it wasn't reflective of reality. Get over yourself MSM and you Elite aholes. The time has come for you to be overthrown. We are tired of your so called "fair" actions. No more will we take what you force feed us. The people want change (REAL CHANGE) and that is what is happening. So enjoy your last few months of power and manipulation because when it ends you will be just like the rest of us again.

    October 10, 2011 11:15 am at 11:15 am |
  5. Saboth

    Oh ho...so since Ron Paul doesn't spout off bible verses or condemn gays, he should be discounted. I think Perry, Romney, Cain and Bachmann should be discounted. The minute you come up on stage talking about stemming the rights of others, and quoting scripture, you've lost my vote. I do find the media blackout of Ron Paul to be very strange. He can win or come in 2nd place in prominent straw polls, but you hear ten times more news about Palin or Christie – 2 people that aren't even running! Is there some kind of memo circulated to every news outlet to be sure to not cover him?

    October 10, 2011 11:15 am at 11:15 am |
  6. Mike Brooks

    Oh, joy, more blather and poison from the poisonous cretins of the pseudo-chrsitian gasbags. Why does the press pay attention to these money grubbing swine? These are the same shameless monsters who stated that it was perfectly okay for a Christian to divorce a spouse who had Alzheimer's Disease. Christ doesn't recognize them and neither should anyone else.

    October 10, 2011 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  7. Chris

    Why can't it just be that ""We should not discount there's a lot of discontent with big ineffective government that's taking place in this country, and I think the Ron Paul campaign reflects that," Perkins said. "The message of his campaign is sending is something other campaigns have to listen to as well."

    Thanks Mr. Perkins for further marginilizing the good doctor.

    October 10, 2011 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  8. Jose Mora

    The statist news media continues to only count straw polls when someone OTHER than Ron Paul wins. This propaganda machine is on full "spin cycle." The truth is that each candidate had the same opportunity to bring representatives to this event, and that people there voted for Ron Paul. Romney and Perry certainly had more money. What is clear is that they were missing what Ron Paul had: ACTUAL SUPPORTERS and people who BELIEVE HIS MESSAGE.

    October 10, 2011 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  9. JR White Bear Lake MN.

    Tony.... I hope this tells you that you have very little influence in politics and maybe it should tell you to keep God in the church and politics in the gutter where they belong.

    October 10, 2011 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  10. MontanaMomma

    Ahh poor baby, did Tony Perkins' little puppet didnt win the straw poll?

    October 10, 2011 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  11. blaqmajik

    They are all going to lose, so what is the point.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    October 10, 2011 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  12. mattski

    I'm starting to realize how rigged these straw polls are. First Bachmann wins hers by buying several hundred tickets for a few people to vote, and then Paul wins his on the votes of about 500 people who didn't attend the summit, only arrived for the vote. Maybe that's why the press doesn't take these straw polls too seriously.

    October 10, 2011 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  13. tonyl

    Paul keeps polling high but the media and GOP elites keeps discounting him for their own personal biases. Now they are giving Herman the cainister more time and significance then Ron Paul, who has been in the race longer and stable. These are mostly Jewish supported GOP groups and media groups against Ron Paul because of his stand against our interference and wars all over the world to justify Israels mischief.

    October 10, 2011 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  14. sgurdog

    Sounds like the GOP has an identity crisis.

    October 10, 2011 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  15. RichardM

    More lies and BS from the media trying to discreate Paul. No one cheated, no one was bused in by Paul. Everyone else wins straw polls and they are the new front runner, when Paul wins straw polls he cheated lol. Ron Paul is the real deal and the peoples choice.
    The media black-out wont work anymore the internet has allowed us to the truth and away from your brainwash.

    Ron Paul has 5 times the amount of donations from people not big business as Perry or Romney

    more donations from military men and women then Obama, Romney, and Perry combined.

    The only one wanting to end these wars and bring our troops home.

    The only one willing to follow the will of the people and do as we vote by giving power back to the states and away from the fed and government where our votes matter agian.

    The only one telling the truth and not trying to sugar coat or lie about things.

    Vote Ron Paul 2012!!

    October 10, 2011 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  16. j

    Ut oh. Sounds like the religious right is a little scared.

    The people have spoken.

    Put Ron Paul on the ticket, or me and my ten-million friends are voting for Obama.

    October 10, 2011 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  17. ljheidel

    At some point, people are going to have to take Ron Paul seriously. It's a little ridiculous how the powers that be are actively trying to ignore him.

    October 10, 2011 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  18. Ken

    Where do all of these Goldman Sachs puppets keep coming from?

    October 10, 2011 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  19. RG in NJ

    I love how the Republicans are now tearing each other apart. Ron Paul busing in supporters? Maybe just like Acorn & SEIU, the same people Obama bussed in. They just love making up stories.

    October 10, 2011 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  20. zach

    Are we sure this guy is really a "leader"? Seems like someone on Santorums payroll which equates to one bible per day and a dose of ignorance.

    October 10, 2011 11:31 am at 11:31 am |
  21. B

    I think it's incredible that all these places are discrediting their own polls when someone they don't like wins.

    October 10, 2011 11:32 am at 11:32 am |
  22. RG in NJ

    the only candidate that has even been mentioned by OWS is Ron Paul. Be afraid, very afraid.

    October 10, 2011 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  23. njp289

    There is no way a winner of a straw poll is an "outlier". This is just another attempt to discredit a candidate. Why does the republican establishment and the media continue to discredit him? Are they afraid?

    October 10, 2011 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  24. Whatever

    No, the problem is the republican leadership no longer represents the views of voters. They are so caught up in the Neocon party line that when people vote to go back to core values of the republican party they are unwilling to admit that they themselves as the leadership have taken the party in the wrong direction.

    October 10, 2011 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  25. Thinker

    Thanks Mr. Perkins, you neocon religious right fanatic, for showing everyone how biased you are. 37% of the vote is by no means an outlier. Considering you have to pay for these votes, what kind of nonsense do you think you're spewing?

    Considering Romney and Slick Rick raised nearly double what Ron raised in the 3rd Quarter, they could have easily drove people in and bought their votes as well. Except for the fact that no one in their right mind would ever vote for these bought liberal bilderberg freaks without the bought media telling them to. That same bilderberg clan Mr. Perkins, probably paid you to talk to the press after they saw Ron Paul in the headlines for once.

    Good day!

    October 10, 2011 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
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