Rep. Ryan hits back at Catholic class warfare question
October 27th, 2011
12:25 PM ET
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Rep. Ryan hits back at Catholic class warfare question

Washington (CNN) - Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, waded into a bit of economic theology Wednesday. The staunch Catholic, who recently told CNN that he gave up fear for Lent, was asked about the collision of his faith in finance and his faith in the church.

The Vatican put out a new financial document Monday called "Towards reforming the international financial and monetary systems in the context of a global public authority." The document calls for a new global economic authority that could impose penalties on member states as a "way of ensuring that they possess efficient markets," Roman Catholic Bishop Mario Toso said at a Monday news conference.

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  1. Bill

    I can not wait until this "wonderboy" is voted out of office.

    October 27, 2011 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  2. Democrat Party - leftist "progressive" socialist communist losers hellbent on destroying the USA

    The document calls for a new global economic authority that could impose penalties on member states as a "way of ensuring that they possess efficient markets," Roman Catholic Bishop Mario Toso said at a Monday news conference.
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    Looks like the Vatican has been invaded by leftists. This "new world order" model sounds like an expanded version of the old Soviet Union. The central government planning was just so darn good at planning and efficiency they ceased to exist as a country! Which is sort of what is happening to the Euro Zone now.

    Government far removed from the people that are governed is doomed to fail. We are seeing that now in this country a sthe federal government has grown and grown, usurping and destroying state and local laws.

    October 27, 2011 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  3. Democrat Party - leftist "progressive" socialist communist losers hellbent on destroying the USA

    Somebody had stated earlier...
    Obama-Biden 2012 Hillary Clinton-E.Warren 2016!!! Perfection in Politics!! Repubs= Gone
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    What was started in 2010, will be completed in 2012. The "Hope & Change" scam that was perpetrated on this country by the leftist Democrats and their MSM supporters will be evicted from the Whitehouse, along with MANY of the leftist Democrats in the House and Senate.

    The American people have awakened to the future that the Democrat Party has in store for us when they see the streets of a bankrupt Greece teaming with rioters protesting the end of their government handouts. Four more years of leftist Democrat rule and we too can be a bankrupt rioting basketcase.

    No thank you!

    October 27, 2011 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  4. Reggie from LA

    @Bill, I hear what you're saying, but they never go anywhere. They just get the backing from somewhere (lobbies I suppose) to just linger and whisper into everbody's ears...forever. Just look at Grover Norquist. Still hanging around after all these years, making everybody swear to be stupid and protect the pockets of the wealthy with that oft signed, revenue strangling Tax Protectction Pledge. Sorry Bill, Ryan resonates with the dull witted with fast talkin' fanciness that will make him darling of the GOP...forever. Dangit!!

    October 27, 2011 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  5. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Humm,
    I'm not sure of what the Vatican said. But If you want to be sucessful you will have to do it yourself. The Government doesn't owe you anything! Too many people blame everyone but themselves for their plight. Too many people want someone else to carry their water. Sorry. It is your responsibility. A lot of people vote themselves pay raises but forget to tell the Boss. You may get a job in Alabama harvesting produce.

    October 27, 2011 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  6. Voice of Reason

    He 'Gave up fear for lent' ?? Really? He said that out loud?

    What a flake. Maybe next year he can give up stupidity.

    October 27, 2011 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  7. Fair is Fair

    @ Ray E. in Georgia -

    Save your breath. Personal responsibility is not in their vocabulary.

    October 27, 2011 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  8. Sniffit

    This is what is called "rationalization." He got told some stuff he didn't want to hear by someone he's ostensibly supposed to obey, so he conflates and scrabbles with semantic games and uses twisted logic to purposefully misinterpret it in order to defend his fragile, tinfoil-hatted psyche from the conflicting demands of his proclaimed ideology and self-serving political goals.

    October 27, 2011 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  9. Rudy NYC

    What the Vatican said is pretty simple. Act like you have compassion for your neighbor. Don't give in to greed and evil. The entire message is the exact polar opposite of the social engineering being undertaken by neo-conservatives like Ryan, and Rep. Ryan knows it but cannot admit it.

    October 27, 2011 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  10. DumbasRocks [R]s

    "What was started in 2010, will be completed in 2012."

    Right, that's mighty big talk from the political party that almost destroyed our country. And it sounds like the same old bombast that was being spewed by you rightwing lemmings back during the 2008 election when you got your butts handed to you....and you've had your heads stuffed up there ever since. "Hope & Change" was no scam; it actually happened. The "hope" was that we didn't fall into the 2nd [R] depression of the past century, and thanks to Obama's policies, we didn't. The "change" was easy; we needed to change the presidency from the FAILED neo-con view of the world to one of cogent thought processes connected to reality. I'd say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Only the twisted rightwing malignancy that comprises today's obstructive, self-obsessed [R] party, and thier mindless little neo-nugget lemmings like you, would say otherwise.

    But please, keep on posting! Its fun to read fairytales from someone whose skull was breeched when the word S-T-U-P-I-D was branded on their forehead.

    October 27, 2011 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  11. Don

    Yes Catholics they still secretly hate you too. Not just Mormons.

    October 27, 2011 01:02 pm at 1:02 pm |
  12. diridi

    Vote this out of office. Class warfare has started with GOP thugs, not any one....o.k, Stop this BS class warfare. GOP and thugs are for Rich not for you main stream Middle Class America, not for You....o.k, God bless....Obama2012...

    October 27, 2011 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  13. Nini

    Class warfare is best tool to use to divide a country and break down the system.

    We've seen in it over and over and it is extremely dangerous when presidents engage in it and it looks like Obama has chosen this path. I may have underestimated the amount of hate the left and Obama have for the American system.
    It is amazing the kind of questions you ask GOP but fail to ask the most simple questions from Obama.
    3 years later I STILL LIKE TO KNOW WHAT Obama meant when he said " we are few days away from fundamentally transforming the united State of America". Where is your curiosity as a journalist.

    October 27, 2011 01:06 pm at 1:06 pm |
  14. Patriot Awesome

    For a bunch of people who claim to be Christian, the Republicans sure do have a strong belief is social Darwinism.

    October 27, 2011 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  15. The Real Tom Paine

    Its interesting that Ryan has to defend himself from his own Church. I hope the GOP understands they have Balkanized this country to gain tactical advantages, but its ultimately gained them nothing.

    October 27, 2011 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  16. Gino Martell

    All these wonder boy republicans whether Rubio or Ryan are imploding on their own. They want to look so darn tough on issues like the Debt or IMmigration and guess what, it is important but we Independents want to know what the party of No is going to do about JOBS. And oh by the way we can not cut ourselves of this dilemma.

    October 27, 2011 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  17. MTATL67

    "Gave up fear for Lent" I had to laugh out loud when I read that. I use have respect for him but now he is just another obstructionist that needs to be voted out of office.

    October 27, 2011 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  18. vic , nashville ,tn

    Paul Ryan must give up chairman of the House Budget Committee. He lives in different world. We are in the 53% , past 10 months we had hope economy will improve republican’s congress will take smart action. It didn’t happen yesterday I saw home for sale in next door yard. Middle class is disappearing

    October 27, 2011 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  19. ConservaFASCISTS/TEAliban/TEAhadists

    The ultimate question is, "What would Jesus do?" He sure the hell wouldn't be trying to balance a budget on the backs of middle class and working people. So the Pope and Rep. Paul can go to hell. A "global public authority?" Sounds like a New World Order to me and a way to keep people under control. A manufactured financial collapse to attempt change the entire monetary system. I bet the want the world to use one currency. The Pope has just as much credibility as Bernie Madoff.

    October 27, 2011 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  20. once upon a horse

    one thing I do recall about the Catholic Church was how they would help the poor and needy...even offering their churches as places of solitude at times. The present right wing Republicans have no sense of that when it comes to the less fortunate...it's I got mine, now you get yours. If you're poor it's your own fault. YET most of these folks also claim to be good Christians. There must be a gospel in the Bible I haven't found yet to support this way of thinking.

    October 27, 2011 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  21. Rudy NYC

    somebody wrote:
    What was started in 2010, will be completed in 2012.
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    I think Americans are going to ask themselves if they are better off in 2012 with a Repubilcan House, than they were in 2010 with a Democratic House, and reach one simple answer. "No."

    They are going to realize that the economy was slowly healing, and that they felt better about the economy with a Democrat in the White House and Democratically controlled Congress, than they do after changing to a Republican controlled House. They are going to realize that Republicans are not just spreading fear, but that *conservatives are the source* of all of the fear and discourse we see in today's politics.

    October 27, 2011 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  22. Rose from Alice, TX

    Hmmm...Pay back, therefore, Caesar's things to Caesar...Matt. 22:21
    What sort of "things" do we owe Caesar, that is, the Governmental Authorities? When Jesus uttered those words, the discussion centered on TAXES!!! So to maintain a clean conscience before God and men, Christians obey the laws of the land, including those pertaining to the paying of TAXES! Do YOU get the picture?!?!....we must give to recieve!!!!

    October 27, 2011 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  23. Woman In California

    BEFORE Ryan "hits back" at anyone he needs to grow up. Every time he opens his mouth he sounds like an adolescent boy – going through his voice change to become a man. I REALLY don't think our president feels the least bit threatened by this little boy or his adolescent behavior. Grow up Ryan.

    October 27, 2011 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
  24. DumbasRocks [R]s

    @Patriot Awesome: These [R]ightwing dingbats don't know what they believe. All they have is a bunch of slogans based on disjointed thoughts that cling to rightwing dogma. If they speak on their own for more that two minutes they contradict themselves, and end up showing that hypocrisy seems to be their highest attainable goal. If cornered to discuss and debate policy, trends, or candidates with others, they typically show levels of intellectual vacuum that in theory should be unobtainable on the surface of the Earth.

    Please, if one of these slack-jawed idiots even knew how to pronounce "social Darwinism", they would be drummed out of the Club-Of-Idiots and labeled a RINO.

    October 27, 2011 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |
  25. Democrat Party - leftist "progressive" socialist communist losers hellbent on destroying the USA

    Stupid libatrds simply don't get the message of the 2010 Democrat record loss. It was a restraining order placed on Obama and his leftist Democrat cohorts in Congress. Had Obama been on the ballot, ne would have been thrown out in total humiliation. Instea dthey had to wait until 2012 to rid DC of the leftists running an destroying the country with their desire to control every aspect of our lives, while taking more and more and more of what we make to give it to their supporters.

    Obama, Reid and Pelosi and their socialist policies will be stopped and reversed come 2012. Take it to the bank.

    October 27, 2011 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
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