Washington (CNN) - Oklahoma Republican political consultant Chris Wilson confirmed to CNN that he witnessed Herman Cain demonstrate inappropriate conduct toward a female employee while he led the National Restaurant Association. Wilson first made this charge Wednesday in an interview with KTOK, an Oklahoma radio station.
In that interview, Wilson-who is doing polling for a political action committee supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign but is independent of it–described an incident with Cain and a female employee.
"This occurred at a restaurant in Crystal City (Virginia) and everybody was aware of it," said Wilson, who was a consultant for the organization at the time, in the KTOK interview. "It was only a matter of time because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation, the fact she left-everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up."
Wilson would not elaborate beyond his comments to the radio station. He has dismissed any notion that he commented on this for political reasons. He told CNN "I had nothing to do with leaking this in any way, and I've never discussed or shared this story with any of my clients – period."
In his description of the event to the radio station KTOK, Wilson said "I was the pollster at the National Restaurant Association when Herman Cain was head of it, and I was around a couple of times when this happened and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the time, knew that this was going to come up."
On the radio, he predicted "if she (the alleged victim) comes out and talks about it, like I said, it'll probably be the end of his campaign."
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So now we know where the 'lynching' of Cain came from. Perry, you little devil you. All this time I thought it was the turdblossom Rove.
It only proves that tea baggers are racist pigs. Limpbag and Coulter are wrong again.
As I stated earlier today, I can't wait to hear this woman's side of the story. This is very bad news for Herman Cain. Now you have a credible witness to the allegations of inappropriate behavior. Mr. "Black Walnut," Mr. "Cornbread" is toast (no pun intended).
Does this mean the the teabaggers, birthers, birchers, and libertarians will do a complete circle and throw their support to Bachmann?
Who said this attack came from the left again? If Cain is flabberfasted by one attack against his character, imagine the attacks he would receive as President. I remember personal attacks to Clinton, Bush and now Obama. If Cain can't handle this, he is not ready for primetime especially with his weak knowledge on major issues.
Hope Cain is better prepared for dealing with Prosperity USA and the possible violation of campaign and financial
laws that he says "he is not aware of" either. HIs "awareness" factor is pathetic. Maybe he should "phone home" to
the Koch Brothers for help.
I look for Herb to be very successful on 'American Idol' or "Dancing With the Stars.' That is almost as good as being president.
A REPUBLICAN is saying this??? Not an "evil left wing media type"? ROFLMAO...ok Hannity, Rush, Ann NOW what do you have to say? Yeah they'll probably just call this guy a RINO!
All, thank you for your support during my presidential run..since I can't keep my hands to myself, I've decided to remove my name for consideration for president of the united states...thanks again!
Yup! That Liberal Media has gone too far! Politico, first a conservative mouth piece for the teabuggers and now a republican. There must me a Liberal conspiracy going on. How about the closed minds of the right?
The 8 loony tunes running as republicans shows how sick the republican party is!
One question: Where is Cain's wife? Lots of times when these accusations come up in the media, the wife will stand up/speak out on her husband's behalf. Makes me wonder about the depth of his alleged indiscretion. Cain talked about bringing "humor" to this campaign. I'm wondering if he's planning on turning this whole situation into one big "laugh"!!
And yet he refuses to describe the event in any way shape or form. CLARENCE THOMAS ANYONE?
I can't even imagine where this would have gone if this had come up with Obama during his campaign. So Herman, just get it over with and withdraw and take Bachmann with you. Neither of you stand a chance anyway.
I knew it was from the right. I waged a bet it was Perry, Romney or Rowe (you know the bald headed mean guy). Let the swiftboating begin. Some people will do anything for power. I doubt if Cain has learned his lesson that when you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas.
Hey, Wire Palladin SF, do you have an actual job? Or are you a typical liberal and "blog" all day. Your comments are all over everything and CNN doesn't have the ba**s to post this.
Once again the GOP followers have been duped again, as if they don't realize it. We have been saying since this came out that it was the GOP who were attacking him and you guys keep believing what a radio dj (which is all they are) tell you time and time again! They duped you into believing the world was ending so you bought up all the guns and ammo at extremely high prices, then they duped you again and you bought emergency food and gold........how long does it take for you to get kicked when your down for you to realize that conservatism only exists for those who are wealthy, nothing wrong with being wealthy, but for anyone to think that the rurul family of 4 struggling to make ends meet would benefit from tax cuts, defense spending and ending safety regulations put in place for a reason , and that domestic oil drilling will fix all of our problems, isn't silly, it's sad.
Face it, If Obama was this bad, then why are the current group of candidates to take his job and "save the country" so poor, ask yourself which one of these candidates will actually care for your well being, I don't mean who will give you something, I mean who will care, Cain doesn't, Bachmann surely doesn't, Perry doesn't, I couldn't fathom Romney caring about anyone else but his donors.
What if, just what if, all they told you since the inaguration was false, based on Barry's proposals and previous republican finger prints on them, you've been duped, and the gold you can't eat proves it!
Any male or female can file a harassment complaint and suit at any time. It's rampant in the workplace on both sides.
Companies will make a settlement no matter if it's legit or not, just to stay out of court with it. I personally witnessed this with my employer, where nothing ever happened between the alleged victim and the defendant. There were even several witness that came forward and verified that nothing inappropriate happened and the company gave out a settlement anyway, just to not go to court. You can barely breathe at work anymore without it offending someone.
What you are seeing here is Governor Perry playing political games. This is unfortunate.
Put a fork in him...he's done!
GOPtee-baggers yell while gnashing their yellow teeth and saying anything to distract the lame stream media from Hermie’s being a sleaze bag – "Acorn!, Pelosi!, Obamacare!" …..you're still not distracted from Hermie's indiscretion? “Socialists!, Tax & Spend!” damn you fact addicted Liberals! It’s all Obama’s fault!
What a crock ! Govenor Perry should through his butt out on the street !!!
Okay all this is said but nothing is declared. What did he do that was so wrong Mr or Ms Wilson ?
You can't make wild accusations about someone and not give content. Oh I'm not going to tell you what it was, the victims will have to if they come forward. At this point we have nothing but claims of misconduct but no actual misconduct. Thats like saying Billy smoked a cigar. We need better liability laws in this country to offset the smears and slander that occur at the hands of our politicians.
Don't think for a second that Clarence Thomas did not do what he was accused of doing. That was strictly politics that got him off and appointed.
The right-wing freaks are right – Cain is the opposite of Obama!
Cheer up, Herman! Go have a few slices of GFs pizza and a brew while you ponder your next career move.
Who knows ... if you're nice and manage to keep your hands to yourself from now on there may be a post as Ambassador to Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan waiting for you. I doubt it though...
who needs reality TV? We got it right here! Pass the popcorn!
@Wire "It only proves that tea baggers are racist pigs"
Were is the racism ?
You only prove that you are the biggest pig on the Tickers posts. You prove it day in and day out.
Unfortunately, for those of us with brains – this still won't be the end of Herman Cain. They MUST keep him around just a little while longer. They don't want the obvious to appear that they are racist. Look for Cain to be out of the picture in about a month.
[Insert dying Pacman sound]
NewsMax just announced that there is a third woman that has come forward accusing Cain of sexual harrassment while she was employed at the NRA. Could we see many more coming to the light? This is starting to sound like Tiger Woods.
Keep preaching personal responsibility but make sure you don’t have to take any for your own actions, yep sounds like a GOP sweetheart to me.
People are getting really desperate here to smear this guy. You're that afraid, huh?
I wonder where all these people are??, not one has come forward yet.
Perry: "That how we do bid'ness 'ere in Texas. Now, lets go to N-H- huntin' camp."
This is only the tip, I'm sure there's plenty more to come.
Once again, the Teabaggers show their sterling judgement about the candidate they rally behind. And these people dare criticize the actual President of the Untited States, when all they bring us are clowns and buffoons. Touchy feely and drunk ones, apparently.
The Teabaggers were never about 'We the People', the Teabaggers are all about 'We Hate You People'..
BUSTED!!! And this is coming from a republican, albeit he works for Perry. Maybe Perry is trying to throw Cain under the bus and run over him.
That's funny, Ann Coulter said the left is to blame.
"Wilson-who is doing polling for a political action committee supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign but is independent of it"
Come on now! – how dumb does he think we are – "independent of it" – year, right
I hope this whole thing was not just a convenient distraction from the 9-9-9 plan and the clear message it was starting to send to the average American. That message was that people can get elected to the highest office in the land with promises of putting more burdens on the back of the middle class and poor.
Smaller government is code for small responsibility to the rich and smaller opportunity for everyone else.
Cain's new Campaign slogin, FREE WILLY !
@pig- . . .better liability laws. . . .are you advocating more government regulation?
Bye Hermie!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA*gasp**gasp*HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHH *wipes tears*
Herman Cain = Michael Steele 2.0
Welcome to the world of token, Herb.
"What you are seeing here is Governor Perry playing political games. This is unfortunate."
No, what we're seeing is Cain getting vetted by the public and his competition. Period. If he's a sexist pig, then he's got to go. He maybe MAYBE would have survived this if he had manned up and came out with honest, forthright responses to the allegations. Instead, he played games and claimed not to remember and told lies. If you think people like the Ayatollah Limbaugh and Ann "Madame's Apple" Coulter helped him by going into a public defensive tyrade mode and saying things like "our blacks and better than their blacks," then you're delusional. The wingnuts in the GOP/Teatroll army can enjoy knowing that they are as much to blame for their bombastic, bigotted, blowhard response to this issue as Squirmy Hermy is for doing it and then lying about it in the first place.
If you find yourself being bombarded with constant questions you don't want to answer about sexual harrassment allegations – BLAME YOURSELF!!!
I'm female, I worked for the NRA and Herman Cain harassed me too. (Not really, but not many on this site appear to be interested in truth and facts anyway.)
I heard the replay of Charles Krauthammer questioning Cain. Cain stated that when liberals attack him, they have a racist agenda. On the other hand, if conservatives are attacking him, the attacks are not racially motivated. This is absurd. Krauthammer asked Cain to offer proof, which of course Cain could not. Cain appears to not be prepared and answers questions on the fly. He can't seem to give a straight forward answer which will help us voters determine his positions on the issues. It is shocking Cain is currently the GOP frontrunner.
Abel's revenge on Cain is almost complete.
So much for the Republican answer to Obama. Coulter and Limbaugh should go the way Cain goes now. Out of sight and out of mind. It wsn't the leftwing that did their boy in; it was one of their own... they are now turning on each other. We all know this was going to happen sooner or later.
Limbaugh and Coulter should crawl back into their little holes. Cain looked in the mirror and saw himself on a police wanted poster.
Say goodbye to Uncle Tom. His white wannabe slave owners from Texas threw him out of the house.
Nash makes a good point. SWhter he's guilty or not, it doesn't appear he's ready to handle the daily grind of being the CIC.
"People are getting really desperate here to smear this guy. You're that afraid, huh?"
Afraid? hahahahahaha
Dude...the MSM hasn't even started reporting at all on the FACTS showing his campaign has broken a bunch of election and campaign financing laws. Don't worry...we'll move on to that if he somehow miraculously survives this debacle.
So now that you have another witness who happens to a Republican, can we at least stop blaming the liberal media for this story? It really would not be a story if he had simply been honest. His credibility was already tarnished by previous bouts of denial of facts (e.g. he claimed to have never said no muslims in his vcabinet and people have the right to ban mosques in their neighborhoods; he clearl y made both statements). The act can be forgiven but lying aboout it can not.
You wil also recall some of his personal attacks on the President that had nothing to do with policy (e.g. the President is not a real black man). In some ways, Cain is reaping what he has sown. I do feel sorry that the media is attemptng to drag his wife into this mess.
I just received an email from NewsMax.com... A third woman has surfaced with the same accusation. How many others will speak up?
Hmmm. I doubt Cain will pull out of the race until his numbers are so low the "dough" stops coming in.
Hermie – if you liked her you "should have put a ring on it"...hated it but you should know better. Life is now under a microscope that Hermie should have checked himself along the way.
Seemed odd that the baggers would support a non white guy...unless they had some dirt on ole Herm. Perhaps IF he ever became pres it would be one leak to impeachment and their #2 guy could become pres without actually having to do the heavy lifting. Did this leak come out prematurely??
I don't care what happened back in the 90's with Herman Cain, nor do I care. Herman Cain has balls, and the brains to run the business of Washington DC. He's got my vote!
CNN-consider the source before you publish!
"They are what we thought they were" – Coach Denny Green
pig is a puke ~ “It further proves the weak minded tee-baggers are racist pigs” – was that the correct way to say it? Coulter and the rest of the cave-people falsely claiming liberals were attacking Cain for being a womanizer because he is a black Repub is the fact.
But it wasn't false and it wasn’t the Dems doing the back-stabbing – as those who aren’t addicted to fox all knew – it the GOPtee-baggers who were doing the slicing & dicing!
“You prove it by being ignorant & arrogant!”
Oh my! This is going to be good! The closet door is open and the skeletons are starting to fallout! Make your self some popcorn and enjoy the show!
What was going on ? This was going on and from the Perry campaign no less give me a beak.
I am willing to wait to hear from the women who are under legal terms not disclose the settlement. However, if this witness has any veracity, well, maybe it won't be Anita Hill all over again.
I love these holy rollers who get lucky, are lionized as being the next coming, and then turn out that they can't keep their pants on. Do as I say, not as I do...whatya say there Herminator???
I'll bet you anything that the wacko republicans will still find a way to blame the Democrats.
This is happening because he is black and very popular. Sexual harrasment has become such a business to make easy money that it's become impossible to look at anybody or say anything without being sued. If the person got money he or she is doomed. They will ruin anybody's reputation for just for a few dollars. Whomever didi it it's not woth anything and what it worse know the same women are trying to make more money by trashing this man. To me these women, who are trying to destroy this man are worth nothing as well as the liberal media that keep bringing this over and over just for political gain. Just pure trash!
I'm not surprised this came from fellow republicans. The left would've used this only if Cain was the nominee.
More innuendo.
Come out with the facts, or shut up.
Man! I'm turning into a prophet! I told you this guy was Clarence Thomas 2.0! Now he literally is following in Thomas's footsteps. Could this be any sweeter? Don't worry Herman, you can always fall back on your support within the Black community. ROTFLMAO!
I knew this came from the RIGHT – Where's Coulter and Limbaugh NOW with their racist statements "our BLACKS are better than their BLACKS;" – I felt like reaching into the TV and "pulling" Coulter's hair and whip her like she stole something!!!
Dang, I was really looking forward to Cain going up against President Obama!! Oh well...
Obama 2012
Give me a real person with some facts and then I might give some credence to the story. Better yet remember this happened 15years ago folks. Wow
Wonder if his harrassment was on a par with putting an intern under the desk in the oval office?
Now we have a witness, who is under no confidentiality agreement, who cant tell us anything, but he saw the whole thing???????Oh but he works for Perry's campaign.
He can't damage control this anymore..
Oh, snap!
Poor Poor Cain...everybody is picking on him..."BLAME YOURSELF!"...its your mess...
Obama just won the election in 2012. There are only two real candidates left for the Repugs: Romney and Perry. Romney is Mormon so the Christian nutjobs won't vote for him and Perry can barely string two words together in a debate.
Pack it in kids it's already over.
The trouble is a lot of repubs keep drinking the tea people like Ann Coulter pour. They think being conservative means you are pure, never done anything close to wrong. Hasn't worked so well has it?
Excellent. more of the Koch brother's money down the drain.
For: Democrat Party – leftist "progressive" socialist communist losers hellbent on destroying the USA
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I don't see your comment? Where are you now? Is Perry's group on of those "leftist "progressive" socialist communist losers hellbent on destroying the USA" you're always rantig about? How could this be racism from the left? Perry is now a liberal?
funny how Democrats are bashing Cain when they have enough problems of their own within their party. It is like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it?
I suggest all liberals stick to dealing with their own problems. How about the one about the worthless garbage you elected to be President? Yeah, that guy's done a bang up job hasn't he?
Concurring with may other posts...this had a republican rival, namely Perry, written all over it. Coulter, Limbaugh and other conservative commentators are so far gone on these "liberal conspiracies" that they can't even see what was obvious to most of us. There was ZERO incentive for liberals to do this. They want tea bag Cain to be the nominee. Every single poll for the longest time has shown he'll be much easier to beat than Romney. I'd accuse the Romney camp, but smacks more of Perry, especially in light of this information. Bottom-line, hardcore ideologues are largely useless for information, they are too paranoid and obsessed with their enemy. They simply can't see reason and reality. I lean liberal on many issues, but still think Air America, Huffington Post, Olbermann, Maddow, etc to be just as useless as Beck, Limbaugh and conservative cronies.
Big story to be had and maybe big bucks..for the accusers...Sure smells like a rotting rat...!!!
And today a conservative talk show host in Iowa confirmed Cain's, uhhhhh, strange ways. I thought this was Rove, but it turns out tons of people knew Cain's little secret. BTW, wingers, if you bring up Clinton, that means you want Herman impeached.
Republicans OWN their Blacks...and Cain and Thomas...serve them Well....
Would the person with nothing wrong in their background please stand up?
Not quite sure what the issue is with this coming out. I thought it was decided back in the Clinton era that stories like this don't matter. Bill "Slick Willy" Clinton's first campaign was littered with stories of harassment of women but he was still elected. We found out once he was in office that many of these stories were probably true based on his conduct while in office. Most Dems back then said so "so what".
Is it just me or does it seem that just under the surface, Cain has a temper that will eventually erupt in some horrible way?
..............and so, we bid a fond farewell to Mr. Cain! It was fun, wasn't it?
Aloha!
Aufvitterzein!
Bye Bye!
So long!
Farewell!
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!
The established media will continue to overlook Ron Paul and will try to resuscitate Perry. **sigh*
Let's just hope the Perry-weasle doesn't come out ahead on this. In a way, I was hoping Cain and Obama would be the candidates. If Perry wins, WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE. VERY BIG TROUBLE. With the Republicans disenfranchisng voters and Perry Winkle running, it's going to be a sad and scary day in "Merica" if Perry goes to Washington!!
I'll keep hoping and praying for a good outcome on this.
Modern day republican politicians are VERY good at a single thing: criticizing and trying to destroy everyone (but themselves) in their own self-interest and thinking they'll rule the world because of it. But now days, even Granny might not be willing to swallow such BS.
They continue – republicans that is – to open up everybody's closets while trying to keep their own nasty secrets hidden from public view. Preach and hide, flip and flop, then slick-back their hair and smile for the cameras. No to this, no to that, no plans to help. Always no and negative. Constantly aiming below the belt.
And now come to find out, it's another one of their OWN who threw Cain under the bus, after Coulter and Limpbaugh SWEARING it was the "left" who opened up Cain's closet. Wrong again blondola and Limpy; dead wrong again!
Republicans have turned into a wierd fetish cult of S&M types fighting for the stump. But when they knock somebody off it and stand up on it, they only speak negative slander. Then THEY get knocked off too.
This is what they bring to this mess we're in; this is what they live for! Otherwise, they have nothing to offer when the side-shows are over.
Imagine a political party racially smearing a black candidate...oh wait a minute
Telling the truth about ones past seems to be a very overwhelming value to some prominent people in the " conservative" holier than thou movement. Why not confess you are sinners like everyone else!!!
Want to try something. Since CNN feels it is ok to allow people to continue to use inappropriate term "Tea Baggers" for conservative republicans. I am going to start the trend of referring to Liberal Democrats as "Dirty Sanchezes". Lets see how long this is allowed to be posted.
It doesn't matter who outed Cain. If he has skeletons in his closet they need to come out now not next year.
Ha! Even a Republican confirms the behavior. I thought Coulter claimed it's a Democratic witch hunt. Duh...
The liberal media is spending more time on a non issue than they are covering real news, 500 million Solyndra scandal, 42 million to Beacon, all got stimulus money from Obama, both are bankcrupt, how about the stimulus money to build cars in Finland, how about the SF bridge built in China? Hoa about more details on the missing money at the Corzine company. How about the jailed Illinois democrat power broker....Comeon CNN you can do better than this.
You "compassionate" liberals are so filled with hate it's mind-boggling. And then you have the nerve to slander an entire political party that refuses to take this country down a road economically that has failed and is failing all over the world. Somehow one case where a conservative exposed the faults of another conserative justifies every sad, pathetic preconceived notion you've ever had about people who are for free markets and limited government. Yes, Republican policies benefit the wealthy, but you search in vain for an economic system that benefits everyone without benefitting the ones who take risks and start and run companies.
Ann? Fatty LimpOnes? I'm sure Shammitty, Levin, and the rest of the talking heads will somehow try to spin this into STILL being a "left-wing conspiracy" If it wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny.
Wow. There are 300+ million Americans. Say half are republicans. Thats about 150 MILLION people to pick from. I watched some of the debates. I'm thinking the GOP could have picked 8 or 9 better people from a single random subway car.
So you have conservative pollsters and media outlets outing the story, but this is somehow a left wing conspiracy, I'll try not to laugh; face it, this is primary season, its a full contact sport, and Cain should have long ago prepared for the eventuality this would surface.
S. harrassers are generally surprised how many people see what they do and know what is going on. These people make workplaces very uncomfortable and there is usually general conversation about how to "deal" with their s. harrassment. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
I did see a comment the other day about it being Rick Perry's doing... so this is where that came from. Funny that the Dems were taking all the blame. A bit early for that, the Repubs are doing such a good job of sinking their own. Not like it is difficult.
$10 says Perry's polling consultant intentionally leaked it to someone he knew would feed it to the Bachmann campaign thinking if Cain dropped out that Perry would pick up at least half of his supporters. The theory being her group of hungry dogs would be the ones to leak it to the press.
I wonder if this will have any impact on the right-wing conservative Christian movement, which Cain is part of? This should bring down that whole movement. I am not a republican, but if I were I would vote for Santorum. He is the only one that is not a nut case, nor does he push is religion on everyone. Actually, he seems quite normal! That is probably why the GOP/Tea Party don't want him.
Well, if this guy is backing the story up, according to Ann Koulter, he must be a liberal. Does Rick Perry know about this?
Well, I don't know whether the reports of harassment are true, but Cain lost me when he said that that the Occupy Movement members should go and get jobs.
Wasn’t it Woodrow Wilson, or was it Herbert Hoover, who made a similarly outrageous statement about those who were unemployed during the Great Depression, saying that they should go out and get a job, as he did.
You can't be more out of touch with reality and oblivious to the true plight of people, than that!
Isn't that like Marie Antoinette, who upon learning that the people were starving and had no bread to eat, said: Then let them eat cake!
It doesn't matter what results are. Cain's campaign is finished for a simple reason. The GOP will never select a black man for the highest office in the land. They may have been taken aback by his rise and popularity (he is if anything, entertaining). And it may be getting a little out of controlfor them (like the Tea Party), so THEY (GOP puppet masters)are sabotaging his campaign. Just as plain as the nose on your face, the GOP ordered McCain to drop jewish running mate Lieberman for Palin, they will not tolerate a black man to lead their party. Not on God's green earth, despite the entertainment Cain provides. The GOP might as well stumble to the election under this mantra: "Who's bringing you at least ONE white guy to vote for?" – and for all the racial tension they have stirred up in the last few years, it may work.
In the meantime, the fact that contributions are pouring in for Cain just proves that fools and their money are soon parted.
So what exactly was this behavior ? I am not a fan of Cain's, and while inappropriate behavior needs to be addressed in the work place, I've know women who are flattered if a male they like comments on their dress, but complain about harassment if someone they don't like does the same. Appropriateness is very subjective.
Can anyone say "the chickens have come home to roost?" The GOP has spent the last three years belittling and undermining the President, questioning his citizenship, his religion and everything else. Now, it seems their field of candidates is falling apart. Cain is toast. Perry looks more and more like a buffoon everyday, as her poll numbers and contributions plummet, Bachmann makes even more bizarre statements. Romney will be the only one left standing and, frankly, his continual flip-flopping make him completely unreliable. Too funny.
Looks like this could Help Cain, and close the door on Perry
Having had a similar experience, it is impossible to imagine anyone "not remembering" the details. That is what let me know he was lying. Think you would forget going through something like that? Don't think so.
"Oklahoma Republican political consultant Chris Wilson, who is doing polling for a political action committee supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign, confirmed to CNN that he witnessed Herman Cain demonstrate inappropriate conduct toward a female employee while he led the National restaurant Association."
Hahaha. It's liberal smear campaign!
I guess that eliminates any doubt that Perry was responsible for leaking the story.
For those claiming a "vast, left-wing conspiracy", consider that it would be easier for Obama to beat Cain than it would be to beat Romney. So why would the left want to attack the weaker candidate?
The woman in the settlement case is asking to be released from the non-disclosure agreement that was part of the settlement. If she can get out of it, then we'll hear her side.
It was a lot different when the man in the scandal was Pres. Clinton, wasn't it?
How long will the "journalists" (?) continue to beat a dead horse? They've run the story and dissected it ad nauseum. Personally, I'm tired of hearing about it. People wait years to bring this up to defame a person? And the "credible witness" leaves a lot to be desired considering he works for Perry now. The press should be working the IMPORTANT ISSUES of this campaign, not insignificant rumors and inuendo.
I'm not a fan of Cain, but the source on this story is extremely suspect. His closing line – "if she (the alleged victim) comes out and talks about it, like I said, it'll probably be the end of his campaign" – is odd, simply because if the story is as widely known and objectionable as he claims...why hasn't he bothered to offer any details himself? Something about this whole story stinks.
Now the truth comes out, I thought it was a GOP hatchet job from the beginning. The republicans are motivating and manipulating their T-Baggers with hate and fear. Wake up people! Stop voting for the GOP and their corporate masters!
slander comes from the original person defaming an individual AND all those who repeat the defaming.
Really??? This same kind of behavior never hurt Clinton.
The GOP/tp are determined Perry is to get the nomination no matter who they have to throw under the bus. They are desparate for 4 more GWB years.
Investigative reports; Start looking at Perry's years at A&M. I feel sure you will find some "dirt" on the cheerleader.
Man up, Herman. Let the women speak instead of just maligning them in public, and then lambasting the media. If you have nothing to fear and did not do anything, why hide behind legalities, debate rules, spokespersons and your body guards?
So – another person saying they saw something but won't say what it is? At one point, journalists had integrity – whether he did something heinous or not, this type of smear has to stop. Wait until you have an accuser or God-forbid a fact to share with us about the incident. Worthless media, all of you.
I'd be fine with this since it was so long ago, if the guy would just confess and quit hiding it. A man can change. I wouldn't vote for the guy anyways most likely, but I do believe a man can change.
What is really wrong about this is the fact that all the right-wing talk show host have brought race into this, and for them to say that the left-wing was trying to bring Mr.Cain down...I am a father of two daughters and I would have to belive my child if she was to say anyone said somthing. Mr.Cain was the leader of the N.R.A. when this happened and if he felt he did nothing wrong why would he not have a problem with him settling out of court (we all remeber Michael Jackson) this is the fault of Mr.Cain for not, as he said this very troubling incident. How could somone forget somthing this troubling, and why would these radio talk show host not wait untill they got more information instead of playing the race card. Cain=Wrong Limbaugh=Wrong G.O.P.=Wrong
Cain would have to have done something heinous to change my opinion of him. Of all the people running for POTUS, he's the best I've seen in a long time. If someone has a problem with him being a conservative and not placidly on the Democrat plantation, they should address their own bigotry.
CAIN FOR PRESIDENT!
Didn't Bill Clinton have all kinds of allegations floating around him the whole time he was running? What does this have to do with this guy's ability to govern? I'm a libertarian so I'm not voting for any of the Dem/Rep candidates but I'm curious as to why Americans seem to be so hung up on these kinds of things?
It's no wonder our choices for President from both sides can't be better. No one on this earth can run for an office without someone finding something that they did wrong in their lifetime. Our elections are a soap opera that destroys families and feeds the cold hungry media. Whether these allegations are true or not, I say let's move on and stay focused on fixing this country. People want to control us away from the issues, let's not be stupid.
The End,
She should come out and speak about what happened between her and Cain. This is the only way this issue can be amicably resolved. This will be the end of Cain's campaign. he could simply tell the truth and get it over with, but like Anthony Weiner, Larry Craig, Mike Foley and Newt Gingrich he lied before telling the truth.
This man can never expect to be elected as the 'HOLY' republican nominee and the president of the United States of America.
This will spell the end of his 15 minutes fame. It's true, he was just the 'flavor of the week' and tasteless flavor he has been.
Perry first goes after Romney with his yard dog pastor, now he's got his pollsters sticking it to Cain.
Perry is playing dirty pool. Perry is less and less desirable as a candidate.
Perry the lyncher?
So now we know it was a right wing lyncher who was urged by Perry to lynch his own republican 'brother'. Perry is already known as a racist, so what's new if he lynched someone.
Perry is the luncher, period.
Rick McDaniel
More innuendo.
Come out with the facts, or shut up.
Rick McDaniel, this is the first time you have ever asked for facts, you are the kng of posting innuendos about Obama, so it is nice to see you have turned a new leaf and will now only deal with facts
"JD – People are getting really desperate here to smear this guy. You're that afraid, huh?"
Heck no, we would love it if he got the nomination. We would prefer Perry or Bachmann but Cain is a good replacement.
The once respected, moderate, compromising and principled Republican Party has become the Teapublican Party, a party of bumper-sticker slogans, sound-byte candidates who used to sell junk food and quit as governors. As the bard put it, "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Its spokespeople are entertainers–Limbaugh & Coulter. It has come to represent only busine$$ interests, mostly Big Bu$ine$$, Wall $treet at that, not the little guy with a shop on Main Street. It's rotten to the core and now starting to smell. Pity, it once was the Grand Old Party. Now it should be the Get Outta Politics one.
Amazing how the republiCONS were fine with spending over 49 million to expose the Lewensky affair but now its the liberals fault that Cain is under scrutiny. I'm surprised that this an incident involving a Republican man and a woman... usually its another Senator Craig having a "wide stance" on the gay marriage issue.
Cain is on a "Wing and a Prayer." Now there is another woman?? Wow, I did not want him to go down like this – I wanted President Obama to beat him fairly if he happened to get the nomination.
Ann Coulter does not know what Black people are all about and neither does Limbaugh or Shamity!!! Ann, Rush and everyone else on the RIGHT that "jumped the gun" and agreed with their latest accusations, forgot that slavery ended a long time ago and NO ONE owns anyone!!!!
Just learned that Cain was "very aware" of this controversy because they expected it to come out when he ran for Senator and they were expecting it and prepared for it – but it DIDN'T!!! So when he was asked, he should have told to the truth!!
Obama 2012
its just goes to show you the racism in the republican party- this incident may have awakened a bunch of black republicans, that call this party their home.
and it puts the light squarely on rick perry and it shows his racist intentions....
cain would have been intelligent if he would have acknowledged that it occurred, answered a couple thousand questions about it and moved on, he instead tries to avoid it, he will be looked down at by most tea party women and all republican women voters.
Herman Cain is done. But he was, in fact, done already. Republicans weren't going to nominate him. Not necessarily because he is black, but because he just isn't really Republican presidential material. And no one believes he would have defeated Obama. Romney will be the candidate, but not before Gingrich and possibly even Santorum and Huntsman make their own short-lived surges in the polls.
What a cavalcade of carny freaks this whole bunch POTUS wannabes has turned out to be. It was just a matter of time before they smelled a scandal and moved in for the kill. It’s unfortunate that the Republicans have anointed themselves to be paragons of honor, integrity and morality, so if these allegations have any substance, it’ll be difficult for them to sweep this one under the rug just to protect one of their own. Then again, hypocrisy is a trait they all know too well.
I haven't heard directly from the women who made the claims. Until then, ya'll can continue to rant. After all, you're the only ones listening.
Bad boy Cain is dead in the water.
This was don’t by GOP under habded people, ah,ah,ah............a Liberal would have waited until he was the GOP nominee for President before releasing IT, it get...................
I believe that Mr. Wilson needed to inform Mr. Cain that he would be doing this interview. He worked with and knew Mr. Cain and should have let him know he would be going public. Seems as if Republicans do not know how to give each other the courtesy of a head's up.
Mr. Cain needs to explain exactly what he knows about the incidents. Until he does this will haunt him through he whole campaign. Maybe what he said is not worthy of all this press. Why is it all just coming out now? Who is behind the "outing" of this incident?
Let's put the rest of the Republican field under the microscope to see what they can dig up. Cain's only learning his lesson that the power elite did not want the possibility of a black man as the Republican nominee for President.
Chris Wilson is hardly credible - and he is hardly unbiased as he is on the payroll – at least indirectly as a pollster – of Perry the Looney Tooney man from Texas. who certainly appeared smashed in NH today.
If these women all came out and told their story - there would be a very huge Yawn across America. Grow up America; we got more important things to talk about than this silly stuff
I went to college with Chris Wilson and knew him personally. I can't say that he's above character assassination for a client – I wouldn't trust him unless I was paying him. If others from the NRA come out and verify the claim, then it likely has merit – otherwise, given his ties with Perry's campaign, I've got to say there's not enough meat here to take seriously. Besides, if hearsay is the standard, then Wilson's got dirt of his own to deal with.
Dang! @SecedingfromTexas slapped a Koch-yoke around Cain's neck. That's a heavy burden with all its hateful connotation. A lot of folks don't know that the Pizza Guy HAS BEEN on the INSIDE of Washington. He has portrayed himself as an outsider- bagger, but he has lobbyist in his blood. There's really no need to pursue what actually happened. This guy just told us SOMETHING happened and that victim - she's just chompin' at the bit to tear a hole in Herb. Dude, I hate to see it end so badly, seriously. Would have just preferred he just have been "hated" out as it was going to happen anyway and everybody knew it.
Hey right wingers, looks like your own leaked this. Are you going to call them racist and narrow minded like you called the liberals?
The sad part is, if you dig far enough on any of these folks running for office, you will find dirt. If it wasn't already ugly, it's going to be real soon. Let the digging begin!!!!
I'm just shocked at how some commenters are brining the race issue here. Mr. Cain is not fit to be president and apparently he has some bad habits that need to be corrected. We are not going to send him to the white house, this guy needs some serious moral education and psychological help.
Oh no, a black man not following the streotypical role that Libs have painted for him. Now, let loose the cannons of hate and lies. Democrats have been slave-owners since before the Civil War and still have that mentality. The slaves are still black – the Dems just call them a voting block now. This time, though, the slaves can free themselves by not voting for the party of Lib masters.
My gut tells me Karl Rove is behind all of this. He knows Cain can't beat Obama, so he's trying to deep six him. Food for thought?
I can't even imagine where this would have gone if this had come up with Obama during his campaign. So Herman, just get it over with and withdraw and take Bachmann with you. Neither of you stand a chance anyway.
I can tell you where it would have gone, no where. If this had come out about Obama, liberals everywhere would have been foaming at the mouth and screaming "racism" from the mountain tops. All I have to say is that the left must absolutely be terrified of Cain. Makes me believe even more that he has the ability to take the country in a better direction.
if....if..you are a liberal leftist..then the last thing you would want is for this canidate to fail at his point...he other than perhaps Bachman, Palin, and perry would be the exact person you want to run against your canidate...Coluter has once agian proven that she is of little intelligance...why she is still getting any coverage is beyond me...there are in my opinion only two republicans that have a chance Romney and Huntsman...so iif the demos are outing Cain at this point would be ludicrous...leave him alone until he is your only to target and then you have everything on your side.....
Cain is like a million other CEOs; he thinks he can do whatever he likes and get away with it. Though, in this case, maybe not....
Odds are you won't hear her side because they generally sign agreements which stipulate they cannot publicly speak about the case. They pay them to silence them, not to right a wrong.
And don't think Wilson is in on something with Perry. He'd be a complete fool if he took part in such a conspiracy. No, this is a credible witness indeed telling us that Cain is who we thought he was: an idiot.
@ Rick
"You "compassionate" liberals are so filled with hate it's mind-boggling."
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Really Rick? Liberals are filed with hate? Have you ever listened to Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, or Rush Limbaugh? Who defends the poor and who is a lap-dog for the rich? Not the right-wing. Who has been trying to get traction on the "birther" movement for over two years? Republicans. If you're going to continue putting rants on these pages you need to step away from Fox News, shed some of your own hatred and think like a patriot. Americans who only promote hated and division are political terrorists. Try going a week without saying "liberals'. Try looking at your own words and see if you haven't been "captured" by the lure of the conservative media. Are you hateful?
If Perry is behind this and sounds like it is, then it does make sense the name of Perry's hunting lodge and he is looking to add another head to the collection.
Does this mean Ron Paul has finally got next?
Unfortunately, being a Ron Paul fan, I think I already know the answer to this question.
So I guess it is back to Perry, then, Tea Partiers? At least you can't be accused of voting against Cain because he is racist, huh? That has to be a relief.
I haven't heard Democrats trying to exploit the Cain scandal. Limbaugh, Hannity & Co. are accusing the "liberal media" of using it to trash Cain simply by reporting it as though they are supposed to ignore it. Hannity used his entire radio show today trying to paint Cain as a victim. He & Limbaugh have been so successful at convincing their audiences of pure lies that the GOP is counting on them to do it in this case. The Dems have stayed out of this and anyone who's been watching objectively knows this. Conservatives haven't gotten over the fact that they could find no scandals in Obama's past. Hannity even went back to bringing up Rev. Wright and Ron Ayers today. Their followers are so clueless that they don't know the difference between actual improper actions and guilt-by-associations. For example, the things that Ayers is accused of happened when Obama was 8 years old. The speech that Obama made about the Rev. Wright issue ("A More Perfect Union") is available for all to read. Hannity avoids both of these facts as he spews his hate speech against Obama and even Mrs. Obama. These guys are as low as low can get, even to the point of quoting MLK knowing that they hated all that he stood for when he was alive. No decent person could embrace them or their penchant for misleading as many people that they can. However, the GOP leadership never denounces them but instead uses their programs as their political platform. They have no shame or consciences.
Cain sounds like another Clarence Thomas.
"In that interview, Wilson-who is doing polling for a political action committee supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign..."
I got that far into the article which was enough for me to know this piece is nothing but hot air and no substance. Try again.
Like they did not know this from the beginning? They did not expect Mr.Cain to do so well so now the Repubs backstab each other LOL! I am not biased toward either party but to bring up something that may have happened in the 90s and was dealt with then is just plain stupid.
More distractions by the day...
Where have all our great leaders gone...?
Time for the fall of Cain, and the rise of Ron Paul
Cain said the Blacks are using the race card now that he is being accused this is the first thing that is coming out of his mouth it is racist.
It had to be Republicans because they will build you up and if they think you are succeeding they will find a way to tear you down. You are just beginning to get a taste of what racism is since you are in denial and brainwashed.
They will never let you become President you are just a token.
Cain will do fine with the Republican party. The only time they care about this stuff is when it is a Democrate. This may actually elevate him with the party. No matter the truth, they will claim a great liberal conspiracy...
The vitriol in which the media and the left went after Cain is another example of the extreme racism of liberals. How dare Cain not toe the liberal party line? To hear liberals say such nonsense as Conservatives only support him because it eases their racist guilt is obscene. Look in the mirror. The racist you complain of is you.
BUSTED!!!!!
You have to love it when the Republicans are willing to waste one of their own for the good of the ticket. None of this would have happened if the GOP spent more time vetting these candidates. I still recall the Sarah Palin vetting mess, that included claims that the FBI vetted Palin. Well, that lie fueled another lie, then another, the dominoes started to fall, and the result was McCain getting knocked right out of the saddle.
Saw what? "Everybody saw it" = what was "it"?
Does anyone remember what they got for Christmas 2 years ago?? Why should believe this woman since no one with any common sense remembers stuff like this accurately 2 months ago, let alone 20 years. Second, why should we believe a guy who works for the Rick Perry Campaign and is mad that his 'dog in the fight' is getting crushed by Cain?? I'm no conservative, but this really smacks of politics.
This happens all the time when politics heat up nothing new here
I am definitely not a cain supporter but I have a few concerns for those that do support him.... #1 his selective memory... # 2 His angry Black man syndrome and #3 His version aka plan of attack for fixing America...
Scary...
I'm confused. Yesterday, Cain said the charges were the result of racist liberals. Today, it's Perry's campaign. And why is the knee-jerk assumption always that a woman making a harassment claim is making false accusations? Egregious workplace harassment happens in real life all. the. time.
And what is below the surface?
All I see is false accusations, I saw but can't tell, I'm thinking about coming out. they are just waiting for someone to pay them to come forward. all for the money. I hope he sues them for slander. btw clinton was impeached for lying to congress. Also if you are voting because Obama and Cain are black and not thier records don't bother. Cain 2012
I don't care who the source was, is it true? That's the only important point. It will be a real disaster if/when the media finds out Herman lied about it.
In the end this doesnt change a thing, because Cain would of never been Nomunated to run for President anyway.
Methinks Cain is in over his head, and he's only now figuring that out. The sad thing is, he was recently conviced that liberals were the ones out to get him, when its the people he's been shilling for that have done him in. Oh well, I'm sure Uncle Rupert will find a job for him, where he can play the conservative victim card for the rest of his life, and harrassing FOXNews interns to his heart's content.
Heraman Cain is done..let’s wrap this up..
So it wasn't the dems. This kind of naughty, tut-tut stuff appeals to the un-hip, uptight republican base. The worm has turned......on itself in this case. Unless he threatened to fire someone for not 'putting out', it sounds like a normal convention to me.
this just shows one of the differences between the right and the left. Once this story broke the right wing think tank, without knowing all the facts as usual attacked the left media,progressives and liberals blaming them for trying to bring down Herman Cain some even played the so-called race card saying the evil left was doing it because he's Black. On the other hand those on the left said "wait a minute....why would the Democrats want to attack Herman Cain, he's not even a threat to Obama, in fact most would welcome a Cain/Obama matchup in 2012". But the right wing didn't look at who would REALLY have an advantage in a Cain frefall...their own 2012 candidates. So lo and behold it appears it was a conservative not an evil lefty that did this. But don't expect the right to admit they were wrong, in fact they'll probably just double down on it. Anytime someone like Ann Coulter can come on national tv and say "Our Blacks are better than their Blacks" just proves they have no shame.
Herman Cain sings" The Party's Over" on CD or cassette for only $9.99!!!
This will only bring Cain down if he lets it, and I doubt that he will.
LOL...I knew this would have some tie to Perry!!! Those who want to go around thinking Perry is not dirty as they come need ot look at his past elections!!! He will do whatever it takes to win!! I can only say Mitt you better look out or at least having something better to hit him back with when it comes. LOL
Well we knew the media has been trying to get this to be a perry vs. romney election for some time now and I guess when the people won't do as they are told, they'll just let Perry's campaign start throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks.
Wake up media! we have rejected Perry and we have rejected Romney, neither will be the nominee...end of story. We will not vote for either of them in the election because they are no different than the current people running the show. Real Republicans want a leader to actually cut spending (not cut the rate of growth of spending) really cut spending.
Looks like Ricky-boy has taken a page from his Mentor's (Karl Rove) playbook. If you can't beat them in the polls, smear them. After all, it worked against McCain in 2000, why not against Cain in 2012?
Now, here is the real question – is Chris Wilson willing to testify about this under oath? If not – sue him for libel and defamation. If he will, and he cannot prove he witnessed it, charge him with perjury and sue him for libel and defamation.
Cain said that if it was democrats, it's racist, but if it was republicans it was not racist. LMAO!
Uncle Ruckus at his best!
Hmm, I think Chris Wilson is suspect. After all, he's working for Rick Perry, isn't he? This idiotic, possibly unfounded comments/accusations may not just bring Cain's campaign down; but also Perry's. Now, now, I don't want to point fingers. However, who might benefit from this? Definitely not Romney; but the chosen one (not my words, rather Bobble Head Pelosi's).
Stay tuned...
I don't believe Herman Cain (or any hard core TEA Partier) can win in a general election.
It now appears that a Republican operative outed Mr Cain.
I KNEW a Democrat would not release this information (NOW), I would think that they would wait till the General election when Republicans would be "stuck" with him as a candidate and when the information would cost him the most general electorate support.
This guy should do the right thing and quit while he's ahead. Not only should he quit, he should disappear.
Rick McDaniel
More innuendo.
Come out with the facts, or shut up.
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You have already heard the facts. Cain tried to deny them, then realized he couldn't. I think what you are asking for are the details, which are entirely irrelevant. Cain and the NRA are in control of "the facts" surrounding what motivaed the parties to reach a settlement and go their seperate ways. They hold the reins, not the women bound by their signed silence.
The details have become irrelevant because they have been overshadowed by Mr. Cain's highly disturbing performance to handle a crisis under pressure. Especially when he had over a week to prepare a response to what was really a minor threat. But, if you want to details, just be patient. I want to know why the NRA paid them instead of Mr. Cain.
Why does it matter who leaked the story? The problem is that it IS A STORY that Cain tried to hide. Numerous people know of this including other CEO's, lawyers on both sides and their staff, the women who have told family members and friends, people who worked with these women, etc. The story could have come from anyone. Cain is trying to divert the attention off himself by now blaming someone else. So far he has blamed Politico, the person who leaked his secret, the women and everyone else but himself.