Cain, Paul crossed off for Iowa group's pres. endorsement
November 22nd, 2011
01:31 PM ET
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Cain, Paul crossed off for Iowa group's pres. endorsement

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - An influential social conservative group in Iowa has crossed off Republican presidential candidates Herman Cain and Ron Paul from consideration for its presidential endorsement.

Among other concerns, the group is not sure Cain is "knowledgeable or equipped" on foreign policy, and is worried about Paul's advocacy of states' rights regarding abortion and marriage.

Programming note: GOP presidential candidates face off at 8 p.m. ET Tuesday, November 22, in the CNN Republican National Security Debate in Washington, D.C.

The Family Leader has narrowed its consideration to four candidates: Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, according to a statement released Tuesday.

The dismissal of Cain and Paul comes just three days after both men attended a major event sponsored by the group, along with the four other candidates.

In its statement, the group said: "Regarding Mr. Cain, the board cited a narrative of questions versus clarity on the key issues of life, marriage, foreign policy, and presidential readiness."

The spokeswoman for The Family Leader explained further when contacted by CNN.

Cain previously "made a statement that the life issue should be decided by the states," Julie Summa said, referring to the issue of abortion rights.

The spokeswoman also explained its problems with Cain regarding foreign policy.

"That relates to the presidential readiness issue," Summa said. "There have been times that, we're not sure as an organization, that [Cain] is knowledgeable or equipped in that policy area."

The spokeswoman cited "past statements that [Cain] has made," though she did not want to specify those comments.

According to Cain's Iowa campaign chairman Steve Grubbs, Cain has consistently said that if federal legislators act on this issue, he will support those efforts. But if states act on it, "he will encourage those efforts."

"What matters to us is where Iowa voters stand on this issue. Herman Cain has consistently said that he is pro life. And he is the only non politician in the race," said Grubbs. "And in a year where Republicans are frustrated with the status quo, they're not going to listen to the family leader. They're going to vote for a candidate who's outside of the status quo. And that's Herman Cain."

Regarding Paul, The Family Leader also explained why he is no longer being considered for its endorsement.

"The stumbling block for the board regarding Representative Paul dealt primarily with "States' Rights" as it pertains to the sanctity of human life and God's design for marriage," the statement said.

Summa explained: "Dr. Paul believes that there should be no federal marriage amendment act - that that should be left up to the states."

"Similarly, he would not be an advocate of overturning Roe v. Wade. Because he believes that that should be decided at the state level," Summa added. "We are for limited government, just like Dr. Paul is. But we also believe that there are some key issues that require some oversight by the federal government."

Paul's campaign has responded.

"Dr. Paul is staunchly pro-life and pro-family," Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said in a statement. "And, the biggest threat to our families is our failing economy. Dr. Paul is the clear choice for pro-family voters because he is the only candidate with a plan to cut $1 trillion dollars of government spending, balance our budget and create jobs before our economy collapses, tearing families apart."

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Filed under: 2012 • Herman Cain • Iowa • Ron Paul
soundoff (36 Responses)
  1. Sandra, Atl

    These folks only want states rights when it agrees with their positions. And what's worse, they don't see this as hypocrital at all.

    November 22, 2011 01:34 pm at 1:34 pm |
  2. Rudy NYC

    from the article:
    n its statement, the group said: "Regarding Mr. Cain, the board cited a narrative of questions versus clarity on the key issues of life, marriage, foreign policy, and presidential readiness."
    ------------
    It is not my intent to single out Mr. Cain. I wish to point out the priority of the leading conservatives in this country. Newt called it right when he named "radical, right wing social engineering." No mention of job creation. No concern for the economy. I guess they don't have reason to really worry about the things that most concern most Americans.

    November 22, 2011 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  3. Laverne

    No surprise here. Cain and Paul are both nuts in a different ways. Cain does not know anything except for the "Cain Comedy Hour" and Sir with the issues this country is facing it is NOT a joking time. Mr. Paul I think mean well, but his his thinking is so ancient and unrealistic he would not get enough support anyway to win. The rest of the candidates are not much better, hell I say get rid of them all and let's start over again.

    November 22, 2011 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  4. nintex

    "We are for limited government, just like Dr. Paul is. But we also believe that there are some key issues that require some oversight by the federal government."

    Translation: issues that WE think are important – how scary is THAT?

    November 22, 2011 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  5. Nathan

    The Family Leader headquarters is like 20 miles from where I live and Bob Vander Plaats lives here. But they are way off with Gingrich (I thought adultery was a sin)? and Perry(isn't Racism a Sin) these Bible thumpers need to read it. Instead of showing down peoples throats. I could care less who they endorse. But they should have endorsed Ron Paul. These political modivated Christians make all Christians a bad name. I mean Come on Gingrich and Perry.

    November 22, 2011 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  6. Tyler Brennan

    They call themselves "The Family Leader." What a joke.

    Ron Paul is the only human being running for president; he's like the responsible grandfather who realizes things have gotten out of whack and that we're doomed if we don't listen to him. We'd' be fools not to.

    November 22, 2011 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  7. Anonymous

    Wow, how pathetic is The Family Leader? Is this because they don't believe they have enough influence on their own state government to ban abortion and gay marriage or are they so freaking self righteous that they have to force their beliefs on the rest of the country? Who needs them. Ron Paul 2012.

    November 22, 2011 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  8. Robert

    The group is wrong on Paul because he has a bill that would strip the authority of Roe vs. Wade.

    November 22, 2011 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  9. Rudy NYC

    from the article:
    "We are for limited government, just like Dr. Paul is. But we also believe that there are some key issues that require some oversight by the federal government."
    ----------------------–
    Well, at least it seems that conservatives in Iowa are honest. They are all for limited government and personal liberties, except for "some key issues that require some oversight by the federal government." That means that they have a hit list of rights and freedoms upon which they wish to impose restrictions; i.e. abortion, gay marriage, and the right to practice a religion that is different from theirs.

    November 22, 2011 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  10. azdaddie

    Ummm . . . I thought conservatives favored states' rights . . .

    November 22, 2011 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  11. Nupe

    Wow, how pathetic is The Family Leader? Is this because they don't believe they have enough influence on their own state government to ban abortion and gay marriage or are they so freaking self righteous that they have to force their beliefs on the rest of the country? Who needs them. Ron Paul 2012.

    November 22, 2011 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  12. Sevenfolded

    "Similarly, he would not be an advocate of overturning Roe v. Wade. Because he believes that that should be decided at the state level,"

    Clearly the spokeswoman knows very little of law and government, goes to show that The Family Leader's endorsement (or the lack thereof) of any candidate should not be taken seriously. Roe v. Wade would HAVE to be overturned in order for it to be decided on by the states. Some people's kids...

    November 22, 2011 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  13. cf

    I don't know how someone can claim that Paul is not pro-fetus. He wants states to be able to take away a woman's right to choose even if the federal government says no.

    That being said, all you Paulheads, read this story carefully; note that it is the conservatives counting Paul out - not "the liberals" or "the media." It is conservatives. It is Paul's own people. So instead of blaming everyone else, try looking in the mirror.

    November 22, 2011 02:00 pm at 2:00 pm |
  14. Ben Franklin

    What about Mitt Romney being crossed off from this list as well?
    And the fact they endorsed the LEAST Christian running due to his life record Newt Gingrich. More shameful coverage from the media YET AGAIN. Who else wants to support Gingrich who divorced multiple times due to his wives' illnesses? http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/newt-gingrich-personal-life-5738279

    November 22, 2011 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  15. Eric

    Haha, I guess Gingrich's staunch record of ethics violations and adultery isn't a problem,
    but by god if you leave abortion and marriage up to the states, thats just unacceptable

    November 22, 2011 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  16. JB

    Well that's another plus for Ron Paul in my opinion. I guess they don't like that he won't pander to them like the other candidates will. Not enough that he wants to work to get rid of Roe v. Wade. Ron Paul believes in freedom. That's why he clashes with the "social conservatives" since he doesn't believe in government dictated morality. What makes you a moral person? That you do something because it's right or because otherwise you go to prison?

    November 22, 2011 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |
  17. Sniffit

    "[Obama's] job plan has been a complete failure"

    You mean the jobs plan full of ideas that expert economists have said are precisely waht we should be doing but which the GOP controlling the House refuses to even be voted on? That jobs plan? The one that has a majoriy of the public's support but that the GOP was opposing before it was even announced or details provided?

    "[Obama's] health care has been a lesson in soiclized medicine"

    Giving people money to help them purchase PRIVATE insurance is socialized medicine? Who knew?

    "[Obama's] immgration polices have beeen lousy"

    Are you referring to the policy of placing more border patrol agents on theborder than have ever been there in our history or the policies that have him setting records for the number of deportations he's accomplishing?

    November 22, 2011 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  18. Bruce

    It shows how ignorant this group is. "He would not be an advocate for overturning Roe v Wade because he believes that this is a states' rights issue." They should do their homework. Roe v Wade is what killed states' rights concerning abortion. When Roe v Wade came down, it not only affected pro-life states, but pro-abortion states as well, by taking the rules of both groups off the books and imposing federal control (and funding).

    I'm sure Dr. Paul would be in favor of overturning Roe, not because he is for or against abortion, but because he is against federal incursion into a power of the states granted by the 10th amendment. I am conservative, and have often voted Republican, and am also a Christian man, but this group does NOT represent my viewpoints.

    Dr. Paul is the best man for the job, and is the only Republican currently in the running that would get my vote in November. If Ron Paul is not in the running, they will get nothing from me.

    November 22, 2011 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  19. Ken

    If you're a Republican and don't like states-rights arguments for your pet issues please leave the party. You do not understand the dangers of one-size-fits-all policy forced on individuals, the concentration of power, the horror of mixing religion and government in any way, and most importantly – you do not support small government. You fundamentally want what most people want – to force people to live as you do and to be left alone to live as you live – mutually conflicting goals when everyone has them. This is why our nation continues to sub-divide into smaller groups clamoring for more rules on others while denouncing when laws are placed on them.

    Live and let live is the only moral philosophy of government.

    November 22, 2011 02:06 pm at 2:06 pm |
  20. Rudy NYC

    Robert wrote:
    The group is wrong on Paul because he has a bill that would strip the authority of Roe vs. Wade.
    ----------
    No, you've got it wrong. Read the article. They object to Ron Paul's bill because they wish to ban abortion at the federal level, and not leave it up to the individual states as Paul advocates.

    November 22, 2011 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  21. Andrew

    Shame on you "Family Leader" Dr. Paul deserves your endorsement along with everyone else's

    November 22, 2011 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  22. TommyO

    It is disturbing that groups such as this fail to understand the "slippery slope" of Federal central authority over the rights of states! The want their cake and eat it too – this philosophy is what has brought this nation on the skids! I'm voting for the only candidate with true conviction and unwavering principles – RON PAUL! The rest of them will say anything to get elected – Ron Paul will not!! Obviously the Family Leader leadership isn't sincere in their so called principles and playing politics at a very dangerous time in our Republic's history. We need a president who will say what he means and MEAN WHAT HE SAYS! . RON PAUL 2012

    November 22, 2011 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  23. Chris

    RON PAUL 2012

    November 22, 2011 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  24. Anonymous

    I can't believe people still think Ron Paul isn't pro life. That's ridiculous. Its just his plan for protecting life is different (and better) than everyone else's. If the federal governments control is what started this problem than the removal of it would fix the problem. However Ron Paul does believe (as we all should) that there should be a national definition of when citizenship starts (one of the basic questions of government is 'Who are your citizens') that's why he's introduced legislation to define life as beginning at conception (like science claims)

    November 22, 2011 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  25. mike

    "That means the group has eliminated Mitt Romney, Herman Cain and Ron Paul from consideration, as well as Jon Huntsman, who is not competing in Iowa. Both Cain and Paul participated in the Family Leader's candidate forum last weekend." Same topic as posted on Politico.

    CNN and Shannon Travis proving why America shouldn't get their news from them.

    This comment will be posted on Politico too.

    November 22, 2011 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
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