Clarion, Iowa (CNN) - Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann continued her super-charged bus tour across Iowa Sunday, attending several more events to shake hands and sign autographs.
Her events have been largely of the meet-and-greet variety - get in and out as fast as she can. The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving, and that generally applies to both the media and to Iowa voters.
But at her stop at a north central Iowa Pizza Ranch restaurant, she and her husband Marcus were met with a woman wearing a Bachmann sticker who was holding a sign that read: "Gay-friendly Iowan."
"I was wondering if you would sign my sign?" the woman wearing the sticker, who identified herself as Kathy Schnell, asked.
"Gay-friendly Iowan?" Bachmann asked with a small laugh as she signed her name.
Schnell thanked her and followed it with a question that, in reality, was more of a comment.
"I wonder if you're aware that 10% of the population is gay. And if you have 28 children, then 2.8 of those kids are very likely gay."
The congresswoman, within definite earshot as she hovered over Schnell, at first seemed to avoid the question, trying to say "hello" to someone new.
Schnell turned to her friend and said, "She's not listening to me."
Bachmann must have heard that because she then turned back.
"Well, that's according to the Kinsey Report," the candidate replied.
Dr. Alfred Kinsey is best known for conducting interviews with thousands of individuals and publishing his findings in books on human sexual behavior during the 1940s and '50s.
Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting "reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in.
"Your facts are wrong," he said.
"That's not valid?" Schnell asked back.
"No it isn't," Michele Bachmann said. Her husband added, "No, it's not at all. It's been a myth for many years."
The presidential hopeful then moved to the next table. Schnell pulled off her Bachmann sticker.
Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington.
Asked if she was surprised Bachmann signed her poster, Schnell said no.
"I think she wants to be a very nice person," Schnell said. "She's adorable. But I just don't think she should be our president."
Schnell wasn't the only one in the room passionate about gay rights. A handful of college students were also on hand in the restaurant at the time, but did not try to raise a question. After the event, however, the group stood outside waving rainbow flags, a common symbol of gay rights support.
Quentin Hill, an 18-year-old student at the University of Iowa, said he wanted to ask her a question as she worked the room but was told ahead of time not to.
"They weren't taking questions today. I asked one of her staffers and I was kind of shut down as soon as I started asking," Hill said, adding that he wanted to ask her about the issue of gay teen suicides.
"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.
"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for. So I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."
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Of course Bachmann wouldn't accept the Kinsey report. It was based on years of studies, surveys, and science. Most Republicans and Faux News hate that kind of educational fact like stuff.
And what FACTS does Mr. "pray-away-the-gay" have to back up his position?
"One nation, under God, unless you're gay, in which case you should stifle what comes naturally and pretend to find the opposite sex attractive, with liberty and justice for all."
With the Bachmanns trying to debunk the Kinsey report it is obvious they are against gays, otherwise they would have no reason to argue the report. I am not saying the report is facual either but if you are running for President you must treat everyone as equals and trying to say this report is a myth instead of saying the possibility exists that it could be true just proves they are against anything gay.
Bachmann is afraid of questions, someone might ask her how much money she and her husband has screwed the tax payers out of.
Jesus wouldn't treat gays this way now would he, Ms. Bachmann? Afghanistan has its Taliban. The US the Tea Party.
"Nope, it's a myth. I can't disprove it or offer contrary evidence, but it makes me squidgy, so I'll just reject reality."
She really does hate everything that America stands for.
Bachmann for Saudi Emir, 2012!
Questioner (Jesus in disguise.): "Ms. Bachmann, aren't gays human too and deserving of our love and care?"
Ms. Bachmann, "That's not fact, just another myth."
Questioner (Jesus in disguise.): "Get thee behind me, Sataness!"
This is sad.
Bachmann will never let facts get in the way of her religious social conservative message about gays, illegal immigrants, and Moslems.
Fascinating that this "gay-friendly Iowan" masqueraded as a Bachmann supporter. Ya think it was all a setup, from the question to this article?
Amazing. Just a few statements from a republican or republican puppet, and years of research along with well thought out statistics are all but thrown in the trash. What next? If we're going to re-write history and science, lets go all the way and do away with republican politicians. This would cure may problems, and take less time and effort.
Reality is that both the pro-gay lobby and the anti-gay lobby are equally guilty of trying to impose their beliefs on the majority that just doesn't care. Just live and let live.
Bachman is still fighting the Kinsey Report. She's permanently stuck in 1954.
"Some fellows (women) get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.”- Kin Hubbard
Onward christian Soldiers. Vote for me and I'll tell you what is fact and what isn't. Hallejulia Jeebus !
She is Palin 2.0 and doesn't want to sound stupid so she doesn't take questions. Her lack of knowledge in the issues at hand for the people is clear now. Light travels faster then sound, that is why some people appear bright until they
open their mouth.
Not happy with the one President who supports them? Go figure! I don't know what's wrong with some Americans. To vote GOP is to vote for our country to go backwards socially and back to failed economic policies on top of that.
What about the myth that she's got her facts straight? Even the other candidates question her ability to manage basic, verifiable data.
if every voter voted on one single issue then u would never ever get elected
- no one agrees with every position of a candidate.
I live in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, and this is nothing new for Michele Bachmann. She and her husband have shown time after time they are biased, and base their information on gay issues not on facts, but on their religious beliefs. The "clinic" (and I use that term very loosely) takes federal money and uses "therapeutic" technics that have repeatedly been called into question by her husband's peers, yet they continue to believe they are successful. Yet they cannot show any statistics (nor will they) that back up their claims of success.
Why would anyone vote for her? Vapid, disingenuous, and really out of touch with the youth of today.
The GOP don't care about human individual rights. If you don't follow their hardline distorted version of Christianity, your just a nobody to them. I just can't wait for HIM to finally get here.. and once he does it's going to change everything.
People get ready.
Sooooo, if Michele and Markus had 23 foster children, how many are gay and they don't know it . . .
Whether or not the LGBT numbers are 1.5% or 15%, you cannot "pray the gay away" nor can Bachmann be the nominee at this point without Divine intervention. (He's not taking questions either.)
"No questions policy." I wonder why.
Once again we see gay associated with teen suicide. People need to know that suicide is wrong. This is a violent act that is wrong for any reason. Whether gay, depressed, bullied or guilty suicide is wrong. Terrorists commit suicide to hurt and manipulate other people. Suicide is extremely destructive to oneself and to the living. Suicide is extremely wrong. No candidate should ever be manipulated by a threat of suicide. People need to be cared for regardless of their difficulties as a human being. Good People are not to be manipulated by threats of suicide.
She can't answer questions. They'd expose her as a person who is exactly as horrible as she is. She's a blight on freedom.
Kinsey was wrong? Pray away the facts?
Michelle Bachmann should be a myth, sadly she isn't. And her husband's extremist views are flat out lies. What a sad state this country is in that a bigot like Bachmann would be running for President.
One of the republcan losers.
Just one.
The real 'MYTH' here is the Bachmenn family.
Its a good thing for Bachmann her new tour was a meet and greet with no questions. That way it decreases the chance of another huge mistake by, oh about 10% !
When you are down in the polls say anything to get into the news cycle.
Just because she doesn't like the results, doesnt make the study a "myth". I'm just saying....
Why should it matter what percentage of the population is gay? It is not a lesser injustice to deprive %10 of the population of the rights given to the other 90% than to deprive 2% of the population of the rights given to the other 98%. The fact that a trait is more or less common doesn't make it more or less acceptable, and the fact that you are "normal" (in the purely statistical sense, which is all normalcy really is) doesn't mean that you are better than those who are not.
Republicans. The people that brought you George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. The choices they are giving you for 2012 are no better. Be afraid America.
Bachmann is a dummy. We know that already.
We true believers will not be swayed by facts, truth or science.
Bachmann is not "adorable." She's a hateful witch.
Bachmann is definitely not an "adorable" person like someone in the article said. If she was "trying to be a nice person", she wouldn't be Michelle Bachmann.
Not like the "facts" that Bauchmann talks about, like inoculations making people retarded. So just how many shots did YOU get as a child MIchelle?
Nice to know there are intelligent Iowans. Poor Marcus. I feel for the man.
10% is too high. Why would we still base our findings on an outdated report from the 50's?
Don't answer questions and this makes you appear smart. I think republicans are a myth. we should try to repair them!
Ignorance is bliss. This fool will be out of the running come January.
The only evidence Bachmann has against anything in Kinsey's research is dogma – she believes what she wants to believe, what produces the least conflict with what her religious fables tell her. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her, if the job required treating all citizens equally.
The gay "issue" is a good starting point to deal with the nukemakers in Iran. Let's get to more substantial issues on the agenda.
She's in denial because of her husband's collection of Judy Garland albums.
She knows myth, she lives with one.
Of course she took no questions, her handlers are scared to death of what she would say when answering. Also, the only myth out there is that there are any brains at all in any of the GOP contenders. They are all ignorant fools.
What kind of campaign stops and makes speeches but doesn't allow times for questions?
One that has a candidate who is afraid of answering them with less than six weeks remaining.
No questions, no answers, . . . or at least any with some semblance of human compassion or intelligence. Buh, bye, Michelle.
Bachman needs to stop wasting money and her time. She is not very smart and will never be president.
" I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."
That is the mentality of Michele Bachmann and her husband and probably about 99 and 44/100 % of other Republicans too.
MIchele Bachmann is a fruitcake...no 'gay ' pun intended...and I'm a straight guy married for 40+ years who knows gay people who have had much longer lasting relationships than any of Newt GIngrich's so called marriages
Who says the youth of America are uninformed or are apthethic? Quentin HIll had legitimate questions and was told he wouldn't get answers. That is no way to run for President. You can't live in a bubble and only repeat soundbites. The people of this country deserve more from those that are seeking higher office. Basically we have three Republicans (Gingrich, Romney and Bachmann) that don't want to answer questions from those they want to supposedly represent. I bet when they are talking to heads of corporations, not only do they take questions, they take requests. Along with the donations that are funneled to their campaigns. This group of Republicans are even worse than past groups. At least with past groups they faked their concern for the average voter while pandering to the corporations. This group doesn't even bother faking concern. Instead the average voter is treated as a nuisance their staffers clear out of the way while they walk in to a room repeating the same soundbite for the thousandth time.
there are many gay people who vote republican. one issue voters are idiots. who cares if you can marry if the country is shot to hell by liberals. uh uh
Sometimes I wonder if people like Michele Bachmann speak and act the way they do because they're genuinely terrified of the future. They pine for the 50s when their hateful WASP doctrines were accepted without question. Now they look about and see gays and atheists coming out of the closet in droves. They've seen the first African American president and a woman Secretary of State. They see the proportion of whites in America declining and immigrants becoming more active in politics at all levels. They had a resurgence in 2010 mostly due to the mess they created and the success of their propaganda blaming it all on Obama. But the writing is clearly on the wall and they see their sun setting. Perhaps the saddest thought for her and those of her ilk is the realization that when they're gone, they won't be missed.
Folks, face it - Michelle Bachmann just isn't smart. But, I think she would deserve a PhD if gay-bashing were a degree. And, if there were, I'm sure Pizza Ranch would offer scholarships for prospective students.
I can never believe what I read about the Republican party. They seem so out-of-touch. As though they don't live in today's world.
Bachman is vlearly vying & trying for VP spot – she knows she will not be presidentail nominee. Looks like Romney will be nominee & considering the way in which Bachman is attacking Gingrich, it's a concerted effort.
Why bother visiting 99 counties if you are only going to shake hands. This is the presidency, not a beauty contest.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
She's a serious Presidential candidate don't ya know!
She doesn't answer questions. Boy, there's the understatement of the year.
what kind of lunatic supports this woman.
Ahh, the "No Questions Tour"! Candidates that have tried that approach before haven't had much luck with it . I predict similar results for Bachmann.
"No questions" because every time she opens her mouth, embarrassing things come out. So if Kinsey is a "myth," what's passing for science in her narrow little reality?
Why do they even spend time going to see this woman? She's so out of touch with reality that she may think that anyone who approaches her is a dragon or a unicorn!
Why would Michele Bachman put her name on a sign for "Gay friendly Iowans? I am all in favor of gay rights, but what does that say about Michele Bachman's integrity? Will she sign anything for a vote? She certainly doesn't walk the walk. I am so relieved to be a democrat and not have to make a choice between these republican bozos!
We all know she hates gays and that's why she and her husband feel the need to try and make them straight. Why keep asking her about it. SHE HATES GAY PEOPLE!! Her husband makes a lot of money trying to do this. It's the idiots who go to him, believe they are changed and probably all go back to the lifestyle within months. You are born that way no matter what the right wing nuts say. Be happy and accept it for who you are.
the Kinsey report probably wasn't the most controlled study, however, whatever the percentage of gay americans is, it probably does fall in the range of 5-10%. So the woman's point was both poignant and valid.
In order to take questions you have to have meaningful answers. If you do not have the answers the do not take questions – you just look stupid.
She did her best during the last debate Thursday night, attacking Newt where he needed to be attacked. However, Michele will never be the Republican nominee, so even jumping thru Iowa just to shake some hands won't bring her the votes she needs to win in Iowa.
I don´t want my children be they gay or not to to live in a country where a person who calls herself a Christian lacks any sense of compassion or empathy, who in no way is capable of relating to the population she will serve and is incapable of understanding that we have a part to play and she as president will be there to allow us to play them. If everything under the heavens is part of the Lord´s plan who is she to question any of its part. God fearing? Sounds like someone who fears no god.
The funny part is when you listen to her husband speak. Swishy doesn't begin to describe it.
Which is exactly why they have a "no question" policy at this vapid airhead's circus events. This idiot isn't smart enough to be a tree stump.
LMAO this woman is a real piece of work, or something else not mentionable. To assume that she hates gays is an understatement it goes against her very deep seated right wing religious beliefs.
Fact I hate politicians who spout religion as a campaign platform.
Fact Those of you who think a president has to be a certain faith, race, or creed are traitors to this country.
Fact For every tour these republicans make through Iowa they confirm for 1000's if not more people how out of touch Republicans are with current issues concerning rights of individuals, the current financial situation and last but not least reality.
If you are going to vote for someone it should not be on their religious beliefs and those who use their religious beliefs should automatically have charges filed on them for failure to maintain the separation of church and state. It is a law that no one enforces and we the people should start making it be enforced. If you want to be religious join a church become a person of the cloth and have a great life but leave your damn religion out of the white house. TRAITORS.
If the vacuum of space was worth the weight of gold, the area between Michele Bachmann's ears would be equal to a King's ransom!!!
she's clueless. Fortunately she doesn't have a snowball's chance ..
Quentin Hill, was so right..."I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."
She is a good little parrot for the Christian right. She and they are wrong. WRWJTA? -Whose rights would Jesus take away?
Bachmann evidently hasn't associated with a group of young people recently. I'm guessing she avoids such groups in order to avoid the tough questions and the true answers to those questions,
Kinsey's numbers might well be inaccurate, though it is probably impossible to tell for sure. Keep in mind that when he and his crew were asking their questions, gay activity was criminal behavior in most or all of the US, punishable with serious jail time as well as possible medical and/or psychiatric "treatment." But I do have a question for Rep. Bachmann and anyone else who is opposed to equal rights for gay people. Most such folks base their objections on certain Bible verses, such as in Leviticus, where it says gays shall surely be put to death. If they believe in that prohibition so dearly, can we assume they favor capital punishment for gay people? If they don't favor capital punishment for gays, can it be that they feel the Bible is partly wrong, and if it's partly wrong on gays, why can't it be totally wrong? Care to explain? Anyone? Bueller?
MB isn't getting the repub nomination anyway, too much of an ultra rightie.
Iowans: do not ask questions of the candidates! Accept what you're being told and be glad the candidates are honoring your town by parading through it. Questions regarding candidates' political views will not be accepted; all will be revealed AFTER the election. Trust us; we know what's best for you.
Well, she certainly can not answer questions. When she does she developes a "foot in mouth" syndrome.
Yep that's the way to get votes Michelle......dont ask any questions and she won't tell any lies .
Ah yes, how many nobel laureate will agree with her this time?
It must be easy when you can create whatever 'facts' you want, the the idiots who will vote for you just don't care it is a lie.
After all, it is the lie they want to hear.
A vote for Bachmann is a vote wasted. She has no gravitas, no credibility, little intellect and no chance - none - of becoming president. She avoids serious questions, ignores issues important to the voters and makes Sarah Palin look like a policy wonk.
She has at least one at home so this is one fact that she should get right!
I agree, candidates who truly want to represent America should take questions and talk with all types of Americans, not just those that are cherry-picked and agree with the candidate's views. The President must work with world leaders who do not agree with us...so why not expect the candidates to handle questions and answer questions from everyone??
I sincerely hope Rep. Bachman does not get any office in administration in 2012 including president. She is an embarrassment to MN.
Stupid to ask her what her position on gay rights is. She's made that public plenty of times. Ask her something she hasn't talked about before – like providing food aid to North Korea.
You should already know what you are dealing with when it comes to these two. dumb and dumber.
Who on Earth would even bother to ask this dim-witted moron any questions?
No doubt her husband is an expert on gays.
Interesting. Sounds just like the Iranian dictator who claimed at the United Nations Conf this year that there are no gay people in Iran. These people are dangerous.
Why not try having someone at each stop ask her a question anyway?
how cute, she is still pretending like shes gonna win the nomination...her and perry can go ride unicorns together to happy la la land
Bachmann isn't stopped from believing a lot of other ridiculous myths. I guess she just prefers the myths that coincide with her opinions.
Let her receed into nothingness. Her run was just bland ambition.
This woman is incompatible with science and facts.
Why are we criticizing Bachmann for stating that Kinsey's figures are a myth? If you look at his research, there are a ton of questionable methods that he used which resulted in questionable "statistics". Why should anyone base policy on unreliable data?
You gotta be kidding. She's so out of touch that she's claiming that a 60 year old study is the most recent data, and that it's wrong?
Amazing that her husband is considered an authority in the field if they have no clue.
I'm very pro-gay-rights, and Bachmann is right. Every rational person knows that Kinsey is garbage and the 10% figure is way high. You don't need to embrace stupidity like Kinsey to also believe that gays should have equal rights. Just because Bachmann is an idiot doesn't mean she's automatically wrong about everything. Embrace truth, not dogma.
"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.
BACHMAN GOT OWNED.
Strange how republicans are so afraid of GAY! That's because they are such good little Christians
And practice NON JUDGEMENT.
"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.
Likewise, Hill needs to realize representing all Americans means even those who may disagree with him on certain issues and may give answers he's not happy with. Just like the president who now represents all Americans.
Great Deal CNN, thanks for another article to invite your gang of Left Wing Liberal Haters to unleash another round of mean postings calling Bachmann names, lambasting Republicans with hate speech, making up lies about Bush, run down Christians, and calling for a Godless Nation. But you always have real nice things to say about Muslims, and never even mention the poor 3000 people killed in New York by Islamic Followers, we'd call Terrorist, but you won't. Keep up the Democrat Propaganda Machine CNN you're so good at it!
Its a myth? What does Bachmann base her assertion on? Kinsey did real statistical research.. what has Bachmann got? More of the stuff she reads and believes uncritically on the internet?
Facts apparently do not matter to Bachmann. But you have to admit, at least she's consistent in this respect.
Gays and lesbians deserve equal treatments across the board, but the fact of the matter is that the "10%" figure is wrong. 1 in 10 people are gay? This is just not the case.
The Kinsey Report was important for a lot of reasons, but science just doesn't rely on ages-old surveys to answer it's questions. New data is needed, and constantly needs to be revised. Gays and lesbians do need to stand up and not be afraid to know that they are really not "10%" of the population.
The only real problem I have with writing this here is that I will look like I support the bigot, Ms. Bachmann, which I do not. I support her 0%, and that number is precise.
Can't believe I clicked on this "story" – is it a story? What's the point? Why is Bachmann still on the list of serious GOP contenders?
The conduct of Rep. Bachmann, her husband, and her staff punctuate what astute, informed voters have known all along: Rep. Bachmann is wholly unfut for any level of public service – period!
A large number of MN voters are likely experiencing "Buyers' Remorse!" Such are the experiences of voters who do not inform themselves BEFORE casting their votes (e.g., GWB, Richard Nixon, ad nauseum).
The GOP has not one candidate (capable of winning the general election) that has what it takes to continue President Obama's efforts. It's truly amazing how there are so many on the Right and Ultra-Right who are so full of hatred toward our President, they'll cut off their collective noses to spite their faces.
The truth is regarding the past 3 years' challenges: the GOP "leadership" declared war on Barack Obama and the people of the USA on Election Day 2008. The GOP cares not one whit about our coutnry and its people. They DO care about their bigotry, rage, elitism, arrogance, and – above all else – power!
Kathy, I know it doesn't really help but know that there are Republicans that don't hate those of us who are gay. Jon Huntsman has said he will not sign the pledge. I'm in the same situation as you, I really do not want to vote for Obama but the Republican nominees give me no choice. I WILL VOTE OBAMA!!!
She doesn't care about anyone that is Gay. They really just want you to shut up and go away. Bachman's are out of touch with gay people which is very unfortunate that they would turn there backs to children who are gay. There are alot of gay teens that think of suicide because of what they have to face everyday. The Bachman's have a deaf ear toward gay teens which is interesting since they say they are Christians.
While its true the Kinseyy statistics have been shown to be flawed (he collected data in a way that allowed bias... most of it holds up to rigorous interpretation today), The bulk of his work continues to hold value. The fact that no other study exists to bolster or completely refute the work is a testament to the homophobic far right which ms Bachmann represents. Her clearly poofy husband is clear evidence of denial of basic sexuality. But seeing Ms Bachmann attempt to talk science is much akin to watching a monkey with a football.
Bachmann is correct. The 10 percent number reported by Kinsey has been known for decades to be incorrect. His sampling was totally invalid. His error was very simple Imagine if you measure the height of all NBA players and it comes out to 6 feet 6 inches. Now you say the average height of all American males is 6 ft 6 inches. Obviously, the conclusion is invalid. Kinsey commited a similar error. His sampling was skewed. The current number is more like 1 percent.
Bachmann isn't qualified to be President. She is wasting her time and peoples money.
It really doesn't matter how she does or doesn't answer questions, because she really isn't in the running. Right now she is just wasting other people's' money with her so-called campaign, and she will need to drop out soon.
Whatever the correct percentage is, I doubt that Michele and Marcus can "cure all of them.
I feel sorry for this woman. Clearly, she is dumber than a box of rocks.
I'd tend to believe in the research of trained professionals vs. Michelle 'Moonbeam' any day in the week. Michelle, why haven't you dropped out of the race yet? You don't have a chance in hell of winning the nomination, much less being a 'player' when the winner emerges. You're a Republican who can't even be trusted to represent the interests of the people who elected you.
What a horribly unflattering photo above – how many shots of an attractive woman did you have to shift through to find one that bad?
When a candidate needs handlers to ensure they don't face any tough questioning unprepared, it's a sure sign the person is not fit for elected office.
In and out and don't touch the hair.. I've met Jezebals with better manners...
In the Bachmann household, between Marcus and Michelle, it's 50%.
Well color me shocked. What's so hard to figure out? She is homophobic. She is also for Christians only, and for the wealthy only.
Fortunately, her polls numbers have not budged from the single digits. Put a fork in her. She's done.
Can they prove that the Kinsey Report is a myth?
Merry Christmas,.. let's all be civil for one week.
Ms. Bachman does not need to answer any questions about gay rights. Her historical record says it all for her....and she knows repeating such diatribe will ensure that she is erased from the GOP "wanna-be" list sooner rather than later. It is inevitable, however.
Not to worry, Bachmann will never be President, PERIOD.
Ah! A chapter out of the "Life And Times Of A Wacky Person Running For President"
Kinsey was a real scientist, who did real scientific research. Neither of the Bachmanns have any science credentials.
I'll stick with the facts that came from real research.
Iran completely agrees with Bachmann's position on gays.
For Bachmann, any scientific study that goes against her beliefs is a myth. That's why she's so dumb.
um.....what is her purpose of showing up in public at such an event if people can't ask her questions......
She also thinks that excessive carbon dioxide being harmful is a myth. My suggestion to Bachmann, put a plastic bag over your head for an hour and then tell us it's a myth.
She's not allowed to answer questions by her handlers because if people know what she stands for, they will never vote for her.
Gee, no questions? I wonder why, other than every time she opens her mouth she looks dumber....
Sad......just look at those soulless eyes. You can also almost see her IQ just by looking at eyes. Then she says something and there is no doubt that she is a half-brain.
Hmm, Bachmann quoting research from the 1950s? Yeah, 60+ year research can be trusted. Especially about homosexuality when people weren't exact;y truthful.
Handlers too afraid to let her speak off-the-cuff, too afraid of another gaff. I'd also like to know what, exactly, is so adorable about her? Her prejudices? Her lack of tact? Her ignorance? Her rigid belief that she is the only one who can dictate what is right or who she represents? The list is too long to place on these pages.
How do you have a no questions policy when you are campaigning to be President?
Another Anita Bryant. Eventually she will move to Florida to sell orange juice and end up a dried old prune caused by fear of the unknown.
And she and her husband, of course, have done their own extensive research to find out how many Americans are gay...
Yes, Bachmann has it wrong. But no, 10% of the population isn't gay. More like 2%. That means that .56% of Michelle's kids are gay. Exclusive homosexuals are a very small percentage of the general population.
Kinsey's work was highly flawed in terms of methodology. Most serious researchers in human sexuality pretty much dismiss it, except to acknowledge it for the fact that it was groundbreaking in that it was an attempt to understand what regular people thought about sex.
Gay people have every right to freedom and acceptance by society. But they have to make that claim based on priinciple, not numbers.
They're right it is a myth, there are MANY, MANY more than that. That is probably the closest guarded secrete in the world today that gay people are numberd in the millions. I'm still curious how come she hasn't paraded her children around to show what a good family she has? Don't many republican so called "family values" candidates parade their children to the news media to show off how good a family she has? Where are they? I mean how do you keep 28 kids out of the news?
Bachmann is right. Kinsey is wrong. One-half of Americans are gay. The other half are popping out babies like crazy to keep the population going and cover up the mass gay fad we have from our enemies abroad.
Bachmann's a lunatic and a fraud.
Oh, so the Bachmanns know better that Dr. Alfred Kinsey what is and what is not a 'fact'. Sheesh. If Marcus Bachmann didn't act so gay himself, it would be pathetic rather than laughable. I don't know what these two are so afraid of and why they hate so many groups of people. They hate muslims, gays, liberals, smart people, Democrats, etc., etc., etc. How can these clowns consider themselves Christians when they hate so many people?
She and her ilk want to use the government to shove their beliefs (factless) down our throats. I do not want them knocking on my door or in any position that will enable them to write laws that limit my freedoms.
Please, please Iowa. Vote for Michele.
I'm not a Bachmann supporter, but she has a point. I seem to recall that Kinsey was criticized by other researchers for his methodology. He estimated that 10 percent of the population was gay based on surveys that asked if participants had ever had even a single homosexual experience, but most of the surveys were of prison inmates because they were the only ones who could be compelled to answer the question. Not exactly a representative sample of the general population. Again, nothing against gay people, but I just don't believe they represent 10 percent of the population. My wife works in theater and about half her friends are gay, but I don't believe that means half of America is gay, either.
Bachmann could easily answer questions, all of the questions. However, most of the answers would be wrong.
She only cares about her career.
I can see why a homosexual would not want to vote for a candidate that does not support their lifestyle since it is correct to say that a president would be representing their interests should they get elected. However, I commend Bachmann for not pandering by just simply trying to lie or speak around the issue. She doesn't believe Kinsey's report was valid and she's not the only one. Kinsey used questionable practices in his surveys.
- straight white guy
Bigot have no place in US PRESIDENTIAL politics. Bachamann should resign now!
The real myth is that these two people (who live off subsidies and in her case, socialized health care, which is all okay by me, but tout free market rhetoric and anti-gay propaganda) are masquerading as human beings. They both need some of my reparation therapy. It begins with unconditional love, and continues on with honoring everyone for who they are, and ends with kindness. In the darkness of my heart I want them to go away. I do not like them. I am trying....but...I cannot...fanatics...trying to love them....I am, I truly am...her eyes, his fleshy Janus face, I ask my god for forgiveness as I am unable to. I hate them. Through them I fail in my humanity.
She has "No questions allowed" campaign stops? Wow
If Gay was a choice – why would one choose to be ostracised and ridiculed by the remainder of society.....Such thinking does not compute! People don't choose to be Gay – they are born and DNA wired that way – just like people don't choose to be black, white or oriental – they are born with the DNA and genitics that make them who they are. Being gay is a inherent genetic circumstance and needs to be restpected as real and as a normal human condition.
Doctor's such as Bachman's husband in saying they can 'cure' gay, are pushing quackery just as the old time medicinal elixir salesman.
What is the point of traveling around if you're not going to answer questions? What are voters going to get out of that that they can't get by watching her on TV?
I'm sure that Mr Michele Bachmann drills his wife daily how to respond to gay questions.
This seems to be how too many of the Republican candidates try to operate these days- come in and do a meet & greet, but they don't want to answer any questions. Everything is scripted to suit them. They don't seem to want to answer the people anymore.
Well, let me tell you, that's NOT going to get my vote.
I'm no fan of Bachmann, but she's right. I did a thesis on this. The Kinsey studies had many flaws. The sampling was pretty much as far from random and unbiased as they come. Legitimate samples put the gay proportion of the population around 2%, or 4% if you include bisexuals. Those numbers may have gone up slightly recently, because of changing cultural attitudes (culture is hugely important - a lot of ancient Greek cultures would have thought "what's the big deal?" about Sandusky, if you can believe that - pederasty was an acceptable practice to a lot of them, and was especially common in the military - but they were generally more accurately described as bisexuals, not homosexuals). 10% is clearly way off, though - just think about how many of the people you went to school with are/were gay.
Michelle and Marcus have no problem spouting on something they know nothing about.
Her suitability for the office of POTUS is a myth. Closed mind. Ignorant. Arrogant.
I am a Republican voter and I think that our candidates should answer the questions of the people as long as they are acting responsibly. I don't have a problem with gay people and think it should be a non issue with the party.
I'm not sure how Bachmann can wrap herself in the flag and yet forget the last line of the pledge...i seem to recall the line, 'with liberty and justice for all'. Perhaps she does not know what 'all' means.
If you did get to ask Michele a question, you would only have a 50-50 chance of getting a correct answer.
Down goes Bachman. Down goes Bachman. She got hit with a GAY RIGHTS combination to the gut of 2.8% polling numbers. Time to go back to minnesota. Try to pray the gay away .
The politicians of today aren't really interested in solving problems, just more smoozing the crowd. It is sort of backwards
that they don't acknowledge the gays are born just like peoples skin. They are born that way and it is sad that some people think there is something "wrong" with them. I know I learned it first from religion and now I don't buy into that BS. They are just people too. I am not voting for Michelle Bachmann.
This woman and her husband are totally out of touch with reality. For a congresswoman, she appears to be very ignorant or just decides to ignore certain facts. A candidate who refuses to answer the voter's questions, to "speed things along" doesn't appear to really care what the voters want. I think this woman is devious, very dangerous for America, and hope her home district won't return her to Congress.
This woman is absolutely insane. I wonder what event in her life has brought about this psychopathic animosity towards gay people?
She's not up to the task of really representing all of us, but she'll do well with who she wants to represent, which is not the middle class,poor,or gays and non religious, immigrints, well you get the point. She is just like any of the other Republicans-only for the few and not the many. give her the boot to.
True....the rate of homosexuality is closer to 4% of the population, less than the 10% proposed in Kensey's 1948 study. We know a lot more about homosexuality than we did in 1948. We now know that homosexuality is NOT a disease, and thus cannot be "cured" with gay reparative therapies, such as those promoted by Marcus Bachmann. and his clinic. We also know that homosexuality is NOT a choice anymore than heterosexuality is a choice. We also know from numerous studies that homosexuality has both a genetic and environmental cause; the enviromental cause coming during fetal development. Thus homosexuals are already so oriented at birth, though the desire to be normal may lead them to experiment with heterosexual relationships after adolesence and into early adulthood.
It's arrongance. I want your vote but I don't value your opinion. Soon it will be "I will allow your the pretense of your vote meaning something just to pacify you."
This is a typical reaction from an extremely prejudiced and unintelligent person. If there are facts that prove the invalidity of your assertions, deny them. Stick your fingers in your ears and shout "NANANANANA CAN'T HEAR YOU." This woman and her equally misogynistic husband are living in the 1880's. Willful ignorance will be the downfall of civilization, if we continue to tolerate it.
I admire her for her stand on her believes toward many issues especially gay issue. It is every one's right. But running for US president and still stuck with that belief is not right. A POTUS must be able to represent all kind differences, and non of Republican candidate does.
What a flake. Pleas god don't let there be enough flakes to vote for her.
I think we need to focus on news of the front runners, however mainstream these homophobic view are.
The kinseym report may be coorect dont know not red how th e statistics were gathered and the controls used
Assume it was valid the questioners part two does not necessarily follow.
Its possibly correct but not a valid assumption to put that way.
As we all know you increase the numbers in the survey the more realistic the overall stats this is why we hear lies damn lies and statistics.
I am not gay but I have no time for either Bachmans or her husbands positons on gays. Also her religious beliefs are such that she would let those influence her legisalative position which I feel is unconstitutional.
QED not fit to be President.
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I wonder which part of the Kinsey report they are claiming to be mythical (?) Kinsey himself? The data? The analyses? The conclusions? On the other hand, her husband leads me to suspect that the percentage is higher than 10% if one includes the closet cases.
She runs a "no questions" campaign because she has no answers. Still stuck on redundant ignorant partisans... no intellectual curiosity what so ever!
The Republican field has just been overtaken by NUTS! What is this obsession with gay people? Why do they pander to the dumbest element of this country?
"No questions" policy LOL!!.....I guess if she keeps her yapper shut she can just LOOK stupid!
I am confused by this story. Bachmann questions the popular 10% figure and then she is portrayed as being bad for not supporting gay rights or representing all Americans. But there was no discussion of what more recent and more scientific studies on numbers of homosexuals has shown. Bachmann is correct that the Kinsey report had all kinds of problems and the actual number is somewhat less. It is almost as if it doesn't matter if the 10% is scientifically correct, because it is still politically correct.
Bachmann is a religious fanatic, and her husband is worse. I'm amazed she was even civil to the woman in the restaurant.
If the media only gave Ms Bachmann the attention she deserved she would just go away. I do have to admit she is a constant source of humor, though.
Guess what? Bachmann is wrong and her candidacy is a myth. In fact, roughly 12% of all vertebrate populations (yes, things like chickens) see to prefer sex with their own gender.
Unfortunately for her and her husband facts are facts and their "faith" can't change them nor can it change sexual preference. Go back to the stone age losers.
I'm afraid the 10% number initially reported for gay prevalence did turn out to be a bit high – the actual number is closer to 4%, perhaps even less. People who are members of a group of any kind uniformly overestimate their prevalence in society, partly as a result of spending so much time with fellow group members. This is the same phenomenon that causes far-right-wing Tea Party types to assume that all of America is far to the right since everyone they know is.
Well, if she doesn't think that is true, where is the counter study to show otherwise? You just can't counter a study that was done without something to show that it was done in a flawed way or have new surveys and evidence to prove otherwise.
That's a very astute observation Mr. Hill. The biggest problem we have in this country right now is the whole "Reality TV" concept. The dumbing of Americans. Politicians like Bachmann think that people are there to rub elbows with her. She has an elevated sense of importance and appears pretty self-righteous to me. They think Americans aren't smart enough to ask real questions. Is her husband going to be beside her to help her field "tough" questions? No, which is why they won't allow questions for the most part.
100% of the population are murderers.
100% of the population are liars.
100% of the population are thieves.
100% of the population are adulterers.
Does that make it righteous before God? Absolutely not.
Bachman is so out of touch with American's!! She has no chance in hell of getting the nomination. She was raised sheltered and out of touch. She is conceded and thinks she is the greatest thing since sliced bread. What a joke!! I think she needs to re-evaluate her numbers and her run as president. I would say more than 10% of America is Gay, Bi-Sexual or transgendered. In my family alone we have 4 gays (that I'm aware of) and 1 bi-sexual. This is not over a period of time either. This is just myself and cousins alone. There are more closeted gays as well that she's not accounting for. I'm sick and tired of these lines being drawn. If you are republican you must vote with the republicans and visa versa. This is the problem with America and it will only get worse as time goes by. Trust me when I say that America will continue it's downward spiral down the ranks of the super powers and the blame will be on both republicans and democrats for not voting for the people......only voting for themselves no matter what they think is right or wrong
Anyone who spends hours and hours asking questions about people's sexuality and publishes the data for scrutiny among the scientific community is obviously wrong. I talked to a person the other day that told me so. She had no scientific background, but she goes to church every week, and so I believe her.
I can't believe that Bachman still thinks that she's in the race...her campaign ended months ago.
Clueless Bachmann out spending money that could go to good causes. And her husband is 'trying to help gay individuals become straight' ?? I do believe that the gay gene is something they're born with and cannot be changed. It's like trying to make people that tend to be bald, change and grow hair.
I believe both Bachmann's need to do some research.
They're avoiding questions because they don't want her to put her foot in her mouth again. Candidates love having their agenda heard by the masses, but in this case, she can't be trusted to know what she's talking about. How many times has she spouted hearsay as fact only to be proven what an idiot she truly is. Her people were trying to keep her from putting out anymore stupid soundbites.
I think that Bachmann is right about there not being 10% gay in this country. I agree with her that being gay is a learned behavior and not a genetically passed on trait. After all if it was genetic then how could the trait be passed on? Only by not being gay!
It's immaterial what Bachmann's opinion is on this since she will nit be the nominee, but more importantly, the party of the intellectuals (the Republican Party) has become the anti-intellectual party. To the likes of Bachman, Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and others, the belief is" "My ignorance is as valid as your education and knowledge!"
I have never been more embarrassed for our country. The current group of people running for political office in this country – at every level – should make us all run for the hills. This person (Bachmann) isn't allowed to field questions, simply because every time she opens her mouth we all realize just how stupid she is.
My question is who is backing these talking (or in this case non-talking) heads running for office, and ask yourself just WHY they want these peoeple in positions of power.
So she is parroting her husband. She didn't answer that question about submitting to her husband so now it looks like we know she does. Doesn't her state require a therapist to be licensed and to get a license to have some qualifications? It appears her husband has none but maybe he claims to be some kind of religious therapist?
Don't laugh. Michelle Bachmann and her ilk are dangerous.
She's not "adorable." She is, like all Republicans, a rotten human being.
Not answering questions is been a trade mark of the ultra right extremeist such as Backman and Palin, avoid the mistakes both have had in the past, plus they are not accountable to the public.
I am glad that someone is challenging this fascist witch and her "light in the loafers" about their hateful views of other human beings. The only "myth", by the way, is the one that Bachmann and her husband believe about her being a qualified candidate for President of this great country. If the two of them want a theocracy, then move to Iran!
fact is "myth" and "myth" is fact to Michelle Bachmann
A presidential candidate who is afraid to take questions? She is done. Might as well save herself the money and end her campaign now.
So... in Bachmann's world, research findings are an myth because she wants them to be? Are you kidding me? We don't need politicians like this. Join the planet earth, lady!
You can't "pray away the gay" and, in Michele's case, you can't "pray away the crazy" either.
Schnell should be ashamed for trying to confuse the congresswoman with facts.
Michele Bachman ensures that she will never be President of the US every time she opens her mouth. She doesn't take questions because she knows she does not know the answers. She is a joke and an embarrassment to the GOP.
Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6: 9-10)
Bachmann is obviously not Presidential material. I am surprised she got elected in the first place. She believes what she wants to belive, just like we all do, but proven facts are proven facts. 10% of the population is homosexual, homosexuality is not a choice (who would want to be disowned by their own family and be discriminated against if they had a choice not to be) and Elvis was not born in August. She does seem to be nice and polite, but that doesn't get one very far in life anymore, unfortunately. Thank goodness in this case.
At least we don't hear much about Palin anymore. How long are we going to have to hear about Bachmann?
"reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight.......that's her husband's mind set and that is her mind set. We don't need closed minded people like her running this country. They all try to stand on a religious plateform to get the short sighted people out there to think they will do what's right. Reallity check.....people claming to be religous are usually the worst kind of people underneath the front!!! I see it everyday!!!
She has a "no questions" policy because every answer that comes out of her mouth is a complete fabrication or otherwise blithering lunacy.
"First of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans."
That's a very powerful statement, the likes of which Michele Bachmann or her husband, will never be capable of understanding, because they foolishly believe that gender preference is a choice. Not only should her limited knowledge of the world eliminate her from the Presidency, her homophobia should do the same!
I actually believe that either Michelle, or her husband, or both are gay.
A "no questions" policy!?! She is all mouth no ears!
The only problem with bachmann is she is gay and won't acknowledge it . She would make a fine president in her world over her husband . But can not get up the courage . . The woman is full of hate for americans who don't think like her .
I'm not a Bachmann supporter but this Schnell woman used deception to try to make a point. If you must use deception to make a point, then you have already cast doubt as to the validity of your POV.
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. The Kinsey report was show false, years ago. 2 – 3 % of the population as gay is correct.
The most telling thing about this report is that Bachman is not getting votes from the people who are showing up. They are more there for the circus than to support this candidate.
Michele Bachmann Is Racist about everything ,that mean the color of your skin or if you are gay.
Kinsey disproved the idea that society has any impact on your gender identification. That ten percent has been true since the Fifties and never gets any bigger, no matter who wins American Idol.
If she was forced to answer unanticipated questions and returned hackneyed, unscripted replies.....well then that would just be yet one more example of the left wing elites trying to discredit her. A brilliant strategy indeed, ask me no questions and I'll continue to tell my lies.
"The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving"
Yeah, that's why! It has nothing to do with the possibility of her saying something stupid.
Gay rights are from what is important during this election, Our economic future is what matters, any candidate that spends any amount of time on gay rights would not get my vote, gay rights should be a state responsibility not federal.
The Kinsey report is a myth, false information and propaganda.
Wow... A rare instance where Bachmann is actually correct. Most sexologists do not use Kinsey's 10% figure, and the consensus is that Kinsey's study on the number of homosexuals suffered from sampling bias. The most accepted figure is 3-5%. But like the old saying goes, even a broken watch is right twice a day.
Any time science gets in the way of their religion, the right-wingers just dismiss it as a 'myth' or 'junk science' or some other epithet. Yet, they have no proof of their beliefs except that is the way they were raised. I do not mean to denigrate their religion; everyone is entitled to their beliefs. But they owe me the courtesy not to denigrate what I believe in return.
She's not out there for votes; she's out there to get those lucrative book deals and speaking arrangements.. See Sarah Palin and most likely Herman Cain.
"No Questions" was part of the Bush formula. Bachman needs the other part where you stack the crowd with your supporters
Homosexuality is not something that needs to be sanctioned and normalized by society. It is deviant sexual behavior.
The only myth is Bachman's science and her husband's quack therapy practice. Repairative therapy has consistently shown to fail (because it seeks to pathologize something that isn't a pathology) and has consistently been denounced by the American Psychiatric and American Psychological Associations.
I understand not wanting to take questions because you want to be quick, but it is a highly ineffective way to conduct a campaign. It indicates that the entire group has lost touch with what it means to reach out to the people you're HOPING to represent. If my highest representative in government did not want to make the time for me when she wanted to get my vote, then I'm not confident that she'll have my best interests at heart when she has the power to govern. It's better to spend more time with a few people who then can speak highly of you to those you could not meet than to disappoint crowd after crowd with indifference.
The real myth is that Bachmann has a brain and/or sincerely tries to use it.
No questions policy huh? I guess she doesn't want to stick her foot in her mouth (again) so close to the primary.
Bachman and her loons think Kinsey is a myth but she believes that the earth is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs lived amongst people. SHE IS CRAZY!!
There is really no reason for Michelle Bachmann.
I don't know why Bachmann is afraid of questions. All she ever does is blurt out whatever is in her dang fool head.
Just a couple of goobers.
Wow, the lady's approach is to lure Bachman in with a lie (her sign) then the same woman is supposed to be the voice of reason and honesty? I'd say the band "The Roots" should focus their song dedications to this lady instead of Bachman. What trashy behaviour...
I suspect this no question policy will work for Bachman about as well as it did for Sharon Angle.
All our choices have consequences. Convincing other people that it is okay to make a choice doesn't eliminate the consequences whether they be good or bad.
Blessed are those who seek after righteousness and are persecuted for seeking righteousness. God bless Ms. Bachman.
Everyone isn't equal. That's a myth. Treat everyone with respect but don't insist everyone is equal in every aspect. The small percentage of the population that is gay shouldn't drive policy any more than the NFL should modify the rules of the game so that slower, fatter men can "compete". If you don't want a gay person working in your company, then you shouldn't have to hire them. If they are talented, I'll hire them; they will be happier working with me and we'll have a win,win,win. As far as "pray the gay away", you either believe in God's power and love or you don't.
Michelle Bachman is right to criticize the Kinsey report. Since it came out in the fifties, several better studies on sexual behavior have been conducted. CNN should have checked that out. Michelle Bachman often gets her facts wrong. However, here she was correct. In academia, there is not much support for the 10% figure for the gay population. The best figures are that 2-4% of the population is gay. About 8 % of the population experience at least some sexual desire for people of the same gender.
Beware of the Hetero-se-xu@l agenda!!!
Move in fast, smile a lot, avoid saying anything of substance. Sounds like just the kind of "transparency" we want running the country. NOT!
Oft-quoted percentage, but doesn't match reality. Census reports less than 1% of the population as gay. The Family Research Report says "around 2-3% of men, and 2% of women, are homosexual or bisexual." Even the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force estimates three to eight percent of both sexes.
Why would anyone even want to ask her questions? We all know she's a complete idiot.
Bachmann is not only NOT in-touch with the heart of America, but she has no respect for people's ideas and beliefs. As a person who claims to be a religiously motivated candidate, she leaves a LOT of facts at the door when she shows up to speak. She denies that she hates Muslims, but spits the venom of a person who DOES, in fact hate them. She claims to be religious, but acts against every single tenant of the Christian faith. I think she's fine to look at, and even more fun to hear....but there's no reality in her reality check.
Gotta admit, she is one of the more entertaining rodeo clowns. Facts be damned. Studies be damned. She and her lovely husband Marcus are just two homophobes who deny anything they disagree with. Confront her with facts and she puts on the tape loop "I will repeal Obamacare." Doesn't even matter if the question has zero to do with healthcare. She and Mr. Pray away the Gay are morons. But, they do provide some comic relief.
Running for President, but doesn't answer any questions? I think I'll try that on my next job interview.
The fastest way to show the world you're not ready for real politics is to prevent anyone from asking questions. Nice job you gay-hating-whacko...
She is a Christian and all Christians who go through life proclaiming "I AM A CHRSITIAN" believes in the values and ideals taught by Christ unless you happen to disagree with the so-called Christian or live your life differently then they do and then its HATE ON! Whenever I hear someone say "I am a Christian" – I just wait to hear something hateful and/or bigotted come out of their mouth. Guess what I haven't been disappointed yet! Thank God I believe in God & Jesus and know that I am flawed but loved none the less even if I don't walk around announcing to all the world that I AM A CHRISTIAN!
So is the Kinsey report accurate? Really. I've heard yes, I've heard no, I've seen other polls and I want to know.
Way to fact check that one CNN. Staying on the ball as an "impartial" source by not checking verifiable facts about reality.
You would not vote for Michelle Bachmann for her perceived dislike of Gays? WTH? We have laws on the books that would fill up office buildings, regulating and defending the personal rights of individuals to be whatever, Straight, Gay, Bi. This is not an issue to decide a leader of our country on. If she will defend and protect our country and enforce the laws of same then the Gays have nothing to worry about. I would not vote for her if she said she was an activist for gay issues. The laws are already there.
Typical GOP bigotry.
Weren't those statistics Schnell was quoting compiled from prisons & mental institutions?
I wouldn't be surprised to find that gays are such a large percentage of the populations of such places.
Less than 1% of the general population, though.
as we Christians say, & should practice better, hate the sin, but love the sinner.
Mr Bachmann was overheard to also say, "Iowa is just FAB-U-Lous!"
I'm gay and I'm surprised so many people still support the Kinsey report's stats on homosexuality. Didn't that number include anyone who had ever even played around a bit with another guy? I can see maybe 10% of men in big gay friendly cities being gay, but I doubt it as a nation wide statistic.
She has a tendency to get things wrong. No, I'm not a Newt fan.
The only thing trashy is the Bachman's intolerance and abject stupidity on every issue that matters.
Too bad that the 18 yr old, Quentin Hill, did not get to ask his question because you would like to think that nothing is off limits but these things are so scripted that I am not surprised. To give her, and other candidates, the benefit of the doubt, I am sure the entire campaign could consist of sitting online and just answering nonstop questions but still......imperfect system I guess
Rep. Bachmann isn't stupid, nor any other negative remark about her intellegence. What comes across sometimes as lack of knowledge is actually denial of the facts the do not fit her desired world view.
Even if the 10% figure is correct, the conclusion that 2.8 of Bachmann's children are gay is an incorrect application of the statistic. Ten percent would be a POPULATION mean. It cannot be accurately applied to a sample (i.e., Bachmann's children). Would be like saying that because 50% of Americans are female, 50% of your children must be female. Dumb math....
It is for reasons like this that Bachmann could never be a presidential contender. Her denial of science/research is classic cognitive dissonance (i.e. she cannot believe the research because it would go against her political opinion. Her husband, by the way, does not have a legitimate degree, he obtained it online.
I hate it when someone with an agenda ambushes a candidate and aks a question or makes a comment in a no win way for the candidate to respond. The comment about the Bachmann's kids was unnecessary. 1Being gay doesn't give you vrleges. 0% of the population may be gay and a large % of that population is .... well different that "normal" gays. You know what I mean.
The right-wing religious nuts do a disservice to Christianity.
Not taking questions? Then you're not really a candidate. Very lame.
"Studies and science. Fie on it! This is the only book I need to study!" /holds up a Bible.
How does she expect to win if it's 'get in and out' without answering questions?
Please don't let her anywhere near the Oval Office . . .
But of course praying away gayness is not a myth. Nor is Creationism. Nor is Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. Afterall, I guess, Science and the Scientific Method is all myth. Well, you have to realize something–she went to a 5th rate college (Oral Roberts Univ.) not known for it's rigorous academics or research and scholarship in the Sciences.
Bachman wants to ne President of the United Corporations of America, a place that is run by Factless Fox News retards and the Koch Brothers. Based on the Tea Party criteria for what constistues acceptable behavior, Jesus was be one of the 99%ers.
Kathy Schnell described Bachmann as "adorable." Wow. It must really be cold in Iowa.
Bible says she's right, that settles it, bad science has always been around, gays have a choice, they made the wrong choice. Yes there is right and wrong in this world. Just because you libs deny it doesn't make it true.
"It's my right to be gay, it's my right to kill my unborn baby. The difference is, you people and your president have no principles, no character. Ms Bachmann has strong principles, which is EXACTLY what this great country needs, not to be driven farther in the abyss by your kind!!!
There are a lot of flaws with the Kinsey Report and its conclusions. Amongst other things, the percentage of gays it found could easily be wrong. But... that does not mean we dismiss the report - it means we do better studies to draw better conclusions.
I think the 10% sounds about right. But it might be as low as 5%, or as high as 15%. And it also doesn't factor in varying degrees of bisexuality.
Kinsey included men in his studies who experineced homosexuality in jail. The 10% number is a lie. The real number is around 1% depending on how you define it. In any case, homosexuality is a behavior, not an ethnicity, like the woman in this story seems to think. Saying that the president has to represent "all Americans" not just straight ones is like saying he must represent all Americans, not just monogamists; or all Americans, not just those who don't smoke pot; or all Americans, not just those who don't engage in a swinging lifestyle. Polygamy, drug use, and swinging are behaviors, not an ethnicity, and the same is true for homosexuality.
Bachmann is about as qualified for the Presidency as I am to be an astronaut.
I would love to know how people like Bachmann, who hate what America stands for and actually hate some Americans, could ever be considered for our top spot.
If the woman wants to be president, sooner or later she will have to actually answer questions
For once, a Bachmann got something right. The 10% figure IS from Kinsey's early, unscientific work. More scientifically solid surveys tend to put the figures at 4% or so for males and 2% or so for females. The stickler is the definition used for "homosexual." Kinsey's definition was anyone who had ever thought of sex involving a same-sex partner and been aroused. Modern surveys use self-identifiers (e.g. "I consider myself to be homosexual"). Of course, as scientists in the field point out, Kinsey was probably too inclusive, and modern studies probably suffer from some under-reporting, so social scientists usually estimate the percentages at somewhere between the two sets of numbers.
Bachmann hates Muslims? Bachmann hates, period.
reoportedly, Baschman has been voted one of the 10 dumbest members of congress every year she has been in office -
Bachmann is just another anti-science GOP candidate.
If you believe in Darwin, and if you believe that people are born gay, please explain how 10% of the population could be gay given that this 10% of the population is significantly less inclined to reproduce?
How utterly convenient - a 'no questions policy.'
Bachman is actually correct. It is well known that Kensey's study was flawed and the fundimental question as asked generated a high percentage. The actual, accepted percentage is 2.8% for males and about half that for women. However, CNN, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. And yes, a small percent of gays have been success in "praying the gay away". That said, there is no excuse for persicution of gays in any way, shape or form and that is not what I read in Bacham's words or intent. Hey pro-gay folks, put your persecution complexes away. You are not helping. Love all.
"accused of reparative therapy" ...since when did it become a crime to help those who want help? Look at transexuals..that's reparative therapy and surgery...all due to beliefs. The article should read "credited for helping many through reparative therapy"
She could probably have gotten away with saying that gays are an "invented" people. Republicans seem to readily buy into that kind of logic.
Bachmann lives in a mythical world where statistics don't count unless they align with her myopic view of it. D-oh. Tell us something we don't know about this loser.
Michele Bachmann is not going to be President. Ever. She doesn't even have a chance at the nomination. She is a bigoted fool who denies gay Americans while at the same time she says she loves God. If she loves God, who does she think created gay folks?
I only have one work for this woman. "bigot"
Bachmann is shockingly right here. The Kinsey report and scale are debunked. Mostly by other s3xual orientation scales. It's old, outdated, and inaccurate. No matter if you are or are not a supporter of gays you should not be using the Kinsey study or the scale, at least not by itself and definitely not as factual data in a question.
Kinsey suggested that same gender sexual behavior was not as black and white as decided who is gay and who is straight.
If a man has sex only one time with another man ... but 500 times with a woman, is he gay or straight?
Yes, we have whole lot of nuts in this country but I hope not enough to propel this right wing clueless religious fanatic to be a GOP nominee.
"The Bible says she's right, that settles it" Actually, no it doesn't, because the Bible also admits gay people exist (Leviticus, Psalms, Solomon) and that gay love is a beautiful thing (Psalms, Solomon.) It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that the Kinsey Report is a myth. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that you can pray the gay away. It does say in the New Testament that Jesus' position is clear: "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." and to love one another as you love yourself one of two commandments everyone should follow.
"bad science has always been around" Yes it has, and that would be science that is based on flawed studies or flawed logic, not science that doesn't fit one's personal belief system. Science is based on facts that can be proven. Belief is based on faith without any requirement at all of proof.
I agree Ms Bachmann has strong principles. However, these are not the principles most people want governing their lives, and they are hypocritical if they do not provide solutions to problems they may incur. For instance, if Ms Bachmann (and you, apparently) believe that no one has the right to abortion, then you must also provide support for the mother during her pregnancy and support for mother and child after the birth – support that should include the basic needs of all human beings such as food, shelter, and clothing, as well as health care and financial aid, if needed.
Lastly, it is no one's right to be gay. People ARE gay. They are born that way and will always be that way. It is their right to be acknowledged and to live their lives without fear and with the same rights as every other person.
I wonder what the doctor was referring to as a "myth"...was it the numbers, or the fact that people are gay?
I was raised in the LGBT community...and not one of them resembled a unicorn or leprechaun. No offense to unicorns and leprechauns, of course, but still.
All you righteous guys out there better go back and read your book again. You're missing a few sins. It's a sin to wear 2 different types of cloth at the same time. It's a sin to eat shellfish. It's a sin to do so much as lift a finger on the Sabbath, so you'd better not be watching TV on Sundays.
If you're so big on removing the beam in your own eye before tackling the mote in someone elses, why don't you correct all those Torah sins in your lives before homing in on people who were born different from you?
While she is a nut, she would still be better than the current clueless, anti-leader that occupies the White House.
Always good to remember the Republican Party at this blessed time of year. Satan's little helpers.
In the USA the most powerful Gods are those that require the biggest collection plates. Politicians know a good thing when they see it.
"That's not true. It's been a myth for many years."
So say the Bible believing Bachmanns.
If you removed all the myths from the Bible, it would be the world's shortest book.
Wasn't that study done decades ago when people would not admit to such things, not even anonymously?
I believe Ms, Bachmann is the very model of "your comment isn't awaiting Moderation"
@NH Grandma – "Not happy with the one President who supports them? Go figure!"
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I coudn't agree with you more. This President has finally got rid of Don't Ask, Don't Tell and is a President for ALL the people, yet this person isn't happy with him?? Just don't get what they are looking for.
So, you are either gay or you are not. Right? It is not a choice. If it is not, then it must be in the genes. If it is in the genes, then the gay gene has much less chance of propagating than the straight gene. So, the proportion of gay population will remain small – more like an aberration not supported by the evolutionary mechanism. So, I think Bachmann is right on this one, to cast serious doubts on the "10%" myth.
Any candidate that declares "no questions" is little more than a celebrity. Why should I vote for someone just because they are willing to shake my hand? On a related note, I'd rather vote for an inanimate bottle of Purell than Michelle Bachmann.
Randy wrote, " Homosexuality is not something that needs to be sanctioned and normalized by society. It is deviant sexual behavior."
Then you should have absolutely no problem giving the DSM-4 listing.
Bachman is right
Kinsey made sampling errors – he ignored the "no response" in tabulating the "yes" or "no" responses in his surveys.Thus his 10% was based upon a skewed population, which in statistics is invalid samping technique. The "no responses" must be tabulated. It is seen in all polls today. Kinsey was aware of the huge "no responses" and ignored them.
Sorry for the bad news, Kinsey was wrong. Many will not admit that Bachman is right.
So by Schnell's facts out of the say 300 people I know well, then 90 of them will be gay? I can think of 6 maybe 7. To me that means someones numbers are flawed. I have met thousands of people over the years and I think 10% might be a little high. In the town I live there are about 4000 people, I think you would have a hard time finding 400, maybe 100. Don't know, but I don't think kinsey does either.
Don'tcha just hate the truth of science? The Republicans surely do. It is no wonder that with a university education costing upwards of $200,000 we still have so many uneducated individuals living in the U.S. But, then again, Republicans thrive on the uneducated.
Is Bachmann willing to fund further research into the question?
LOL I find it hilarious the libs run around with thier coexsist, and tolerance bumperstickers are just as nasty and uninformed as the conservs. Just because someone doesn't agree with you on an issue like gays or religion does not make you right or them right. You might be right and you might not. Both sides have proof. Bachman is as qualified as the current dictaitor we have in office if not more so. I really don't need the govt. to tell me how to live and neither do you.
She has a "no questions policy" because she has no substantive answers.
"The truth is regarding the past 3 years' challenges: the GOP "leadership" declared war on Barack Obama and the people of the USA on Election Day 2008"
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Absolutely agree!! I can't understand why some who voted for President Obama can't be totally disgusted with the Repub/Tea Partiers who have disregarded their vote. They think since they won the House in 2010 that many changed their minds on Obama but the fact is that most Dems didn't turn out to vote which was extremely unfortunate. They have made a complete mockery of our democratic system. As far as Bachmann she doesn't take questions because she's afraid of that big "OOPS" moment which will come sooner or later. Have to admit though she's good at bashing Newt and I agree with another poster that she's vying for the VP spot – UGH!!!
The exact percentage of people who are gay, straight or bisexually really is unimportant. What is important is for society to accept people for who they are. What does it matter what two consenting adults want to do? As long as no one is harmed.
Mr. and Mrs. Bachmann don't want to accept people for who they are. They much prefer predetermined set roles and types and categories. We would all be better off if our "leaders" were more open minded.
@Luke Brown...
Dude, are you serious? "Have sex with a man just one time"??? WTF. If you're not gay, why in the world would a man do that?
C'mon maaaan.
The U.S. does not need a President who waves their Bible to prove their right; then hides behind it when proven wrong. That is why a Conservative Religious Fraud will never be President.
Science fact vs religious fiction. Which always comes out the winner?
Science.
First of all, why do all right-wing politicians deem themselves experts on gayness? Their obsession with gay people borders on perverted, and their insistence that the government oppress gay people and dictate who can marry whom is the total opposite of the small, unintrusive government they are always babbling about. I don't know anybody who is so obsessed with gay people. But hey...I don't hang around with a lot of weirdo Republicans. As for gay rights, all I have to say is LET FREEDOM RING.
I'm not fan of Bachman, but she's right here. The Kinsey report was groundbreaking at the time, but the 10% figure has not held up by other studies. Remember, scientific studies have to be repeatable. Most other studies have found the number to be between 1 – 3 percent, but growing.
Uh, Mark – 10% of 300 is 30, not 90 – but leave it to the Republicans to ignore facts, make up their own truths, skew history, mis-interpret the Bible – then try to jam it down all our of throats as reality. Anyone who votes Republican is truly not an American – but rather a modern day Neo-Nazi who thinks American should be populated by nothing else but white, Christians. I see a civil war in our future.
90% of the population is straight. In politics, that constitutes a "mandate" (which is a rather inappropriate term under the circumstances).
If it weren't for Gay Rights and Women's rights, these Republicans have nothing else to talk! They always use these two subjects to get attention! I wonder if all they think about is sex sex sex! What is it that they seem determined to get in our bedrooms?
The Kinsey report is a perfect example of science gone stupid. It's about as credible as Freud. People need to wake up and STUDY for themselves instead of mindlessly repeating foolish lies. 10% gay???? What a load of bs.
Clearly, the Kinsey Report is a scientific document, which is flawed, unlike the totally-pulled-out-of-the-air theories of Michelle Bachmann, some of which are backed up by an ancient triple translated text of unknown authorship, which is unassailable.
FYI, homosexuality has been observed in 1500 species of animals so far. These species can have sex with no "moral" issues so it is clear that it is in some sense natural, possibly nature's way of providing genetic diversity-as most people know (not Bachmann of course), some species can switch sex for reproduction purposes.
It absolutely is a myth. To actually believe that 1 in 10 people loses traction in the face of reality. Look around you (unless you live in NYC or LA). Maybe, MAYBE, 1 OR 2 % tops. And those people CHOSE to be 'gay'. Got it?
the actual percentage is unimportant. what IS important is that homosexuals do exist and they are an oppressed minority. and, just like any other minority, they should be accorded the same rights and privileges the majority enjoys.
I think heterosexuals are a myth also. There is no proof. There is no proof of evolution either.
1/10 of the population gay? No. Sorry. What if the number was 3% or 5%? What does that change? The only thing it changes is the perception that gays are a powerful voting bloc, which they are not. They are a vocal voting bloc, but not a large one.
Another fine example of the American public’s ignorance or idiocy. Regardless of your view on the issue, the Kinsey report has long been recognized as having serious sampling errors, e.g. one third of sample from prison population for sex crimes (including rape, pedophilia or had been abused themselves) , or its observations, e.g. "The average female is not aroused by nearly so many stimuli as is the male, and finds much less sexual excitement in psychic associations or in any sensory stimulation outside of the purely tactile." Scientists have tried to duplicate Kinsey's findings and failed. Perhaps his most famous statistic is that between 10% and 36% of men are homosexual. Subsequent studies have found the actual number really closer to 1- 3%. While the report is important for opening the discussion it is deeply flawed and even damaging because it has opened up other areas without the appropriate caveats, similar to Freud’s therapy techniques which were taken out of context to be acceptable behaviors.
"The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving..."
Chris why should you as a reporter assign a motive to the policy? Did they tell you it was to keep things moving? If so, how about some quotes, if not. don't say. It seems at least as plausible that they are not taking questions so as to avoid the type of (reasonable) confrontation that follows, in which case the meet and greet is a sham, and a cowardly one at that.
How can you run for president and take no questions from the public or the media? This woman is so scary. How could anyone even consider voting for her (and her husband.)
First of all, Bachmann knows she has no chance at president. Second, she should be seriously worried about keeping her congressional seat. She almost lost last time and this time is facing a very serious challenger and a disgusted group of voters in her district. Hopefully her district will vote her out and we will be rid of this menace once and for all (of course we thought that of Santorum too).
I don't think we have enough scientific proof of why people are inclined to do whatever they do. Human Biology is not a predictive science. Recently a study found that individuals spending alot of time playing video games have adaptive changes in their Brains. We all want our position justified but just because we wish to rationalize doesn't make it true.
Condemnation of a persons position on an issue is not a virtue. Letting all be free to choose their life coarse is. Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street, you cannot accept anothers position without condemnation then you are as intolerant as you accuse them of being.
"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for....."
You need to clarify that statement. I think what you really mean is you want to know where she stands only on gay issues. Voters who are 'one issue' voters are too lazy to see what else the candidates are saying. Like it or not, 'gay issues' are not the most pressing things government needs to be concerned with. You are way down the line of priorities.
A candidate has only so many hours in a day, and he or she has to stay on schedule. He or she can't personally answer everyone's questions on a one-on-one basis. Also, Michele Bachmann knows that everything she says is likely to be taken out of context, twisted around, misinterpreted, and used to "prove" that she said something that she didn't say, and that she holds positions that she doesn't hold. A case in point, Ron Paul saying that she "hates" Muslims, and Jay Leno saying "Oh, that's not good." Michele Bachmann doesn't hate Muslims. She does, however, believe that we need to take seriously the threat of terrorism. That's not the same thing as hating Muslims. No wonder she's reluctant to answer controversial questions.
Whether or not the Kinsey report is accurate, it's a lot more factual than the mythological text that people like Bachmann hold in such high regard. If only they would scrutinize things equally...
It does not matter how many gay people there are in the US... if she wants to be President, she needs to be President for ALL Americans... not just the ones she chooses.
damn...I wish 10% of the population were actually gay- maybe I'd get more action then! But sadly Mrs. Bachman and her (IMO very gay husband) are right...the Kinsey report is old, outdated, and incorrect. More recent studies place it at 5-7%. Not sure how it matters if it's 2% or 20% though.
Even Kinsey admitted that 10% was probably too high a number, given the population he used for the study could have skewed the outcome. His point however was that there were dramatically more homosexuals in society than people were willing to admit. History since that study has proven that Kinsey's findings are not a myth.
The real myth is believing someone who is married is heterosexual. It is a myth Bachman clings to.
why is it that by your own numbers (10% gay) by looking at all the press on gayness one would think that 9 out of 10 were gay! and that all legislation should favor gayness when in reality the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few! nuff said
Recent US census data proves that the 10 percent fugure was not grounded in science. It would mean there are roughly 31 million gay/lesbians in the U.S., and the census data shows around 650k plus same sex couples co-habitating (this includes gay and straight). If you then compare that ot the number of single and straight co-habitating couples, you cannot get close to 35 million. Possibly 5-6 million, but more likely around 3 million, and that is being generous with the stats. One percent is more accurate, so the report is wrong by a factor of TEN. In other words, not a myth, but meaningless
BTW, I am not at all against gays/lesbians- I only take exception with a report that is decades old and has other dubious conclusions within it.
"Your Facts Are Wrong". Wow. That says so much about MB's mindset.
" ...since when did it become a crime to help those who want help? Look at transexuals..that's reparative therapy and surgery...all due to beliefs. The article should read "credited for helping many through reparative therapy". "
Preparative therapy, Ala Exodus, Narth, or Marcus "I'm a pretend unlicensed psychologist" Bachmann, is tell gay folks that they can become straight – mainly by praying away the gay.
It doesn't work. It's a shame. Try reading the APA's position paper on it.
It doesn't matter one bit whether gays are 51%, 10%, 5% or .02%
Nor do I understand why anyone thinks it matters whether sexual orientation is genetic or a "choice" or somewhere in between.
I don't recall reading in my Constitution that civil rights are granted only to minority groups of a certain size or if their defining characteristics are genetic. Hence, we protect religion (which is a choice) and very small ethnic minorities. What is it about sexual orientation that differs from these characteristics?
Being Gay is a disease that should be treated. Proof? If all people were gay, the human race would die and cease to exist. Therego, a disease. Use your common-sense gay lovers. This doesn't mean we should discriminate. We should love all people equally while recognizing that like diabetes, and cancer, some people have a disease that needs to be treated.
Hah, what is the point of showing up and not taking questions? Absurd. Though in the case of a mindless bimbo like Bachmann I guess it does make sense. That said, what "facts" do these clowns have re: gay population? What scientific research can they quote? Any? No, I didn't think so. Though considering Michelle is married to a clearly gay man I'm surprised they aren't a little more accepting of the whole thing.
Good plan there Bachmann. Don't open yourself to any questions from that pesky gotcha media or HORRORs potential voters. That's a great way to isolate yourself in your own propaganda and delusional fanaticism that you could even be considered for any position bigger than sewer commissioner. As always, there is but one clear choice in 2012
Obama/Biden 2012
God Save the Queen .
forget her, she is done. even the most die hard bachmann fans see what she is (and is not). bad enough she was elected to any office, let alone the president.
Palin's...er I mean Bachmann's response when asked where she got her gay population facts......"Someone on the plane told me"
Wow, it's shocking enough that people still are so backwards that they don't believe things like gay is a choice and whatnot, but so many are actually in office and this one wants to run for President!!
Palin also took a "no questions" approach to campaigning, it was to prevent people from realizing how stupid she was. Bachmann is taking the same approach but she should have stuck to it. She opened her mouth and look what came out.
Gays are just a myth perpetuated by anchor babies who became retarded via HPV inoculation right Michelle?
Little Miss "HPV vaccine makes you retarded" does not let the facts get in the way of her beliefs.
She'll never be a serious contender for President. Never.
She is entitled to believe what she wants. Out of a class of 124 students, none are gay; in another class of 122 one is gay. That's my answer. I have no friends with gay children; I know of a few people with gay children. Out of my family of over 100 persons, none are gay. Those are my facts.
Bachmann is right. Kinsey's study group included prison inmate populations, where men who do men are way more common than in the mainstream population. Kinsey was out to push social boundaries, not accurately report where the boundaries lay at that time. And let's face it, if a behavior is wrong, it's wrong no matter what percentage of the population is internally influenced to engage in it.
Bachmann is America's version of President Ahmadinejad of Iran – very religious and thinks that being gay is a myth. Neither should hold public office. As a republican, I wish she would go back to being a "job creator" in Minnesota and drop out of the presidential race already. She is polling around 1%....the same as Mickey Mouse. Ever noticed she starts off each sentence with "As a Job Creator..." or "As a Corporate Tax Attorney...."
I'm surprised that the Bachmanns have time to debunk the Kinsey Report indicating "It's been a myth for many years" given that they are also debunking the Darwin Reort indicating "It's been a myth for many years"
Readers who would like to see the scientific evidence for why anti-gay posters are so obsessed with what they IMAGINE same gender couples do in private should Google "Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies."
Bachmann doesn’t answer questions because she doesn’t have any answers. This woman is dumber than Palin. I didn't think it was possible. This woman is a poster child for the dangers of poor education in America.
Rod C. Venger- Fascinating that this "gay-friendly Iowan" masqueraded as a Bachmann supporter. Ya think it was all a setup, from the question to this article?
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If you really read the article, you would have read this woman admitted to being a democrat. Not a set up, just a voter wanting some answers.
I hardly think taking questions from just one side of the voting public is democratic...but THAT certainly seems like a set up, generally, than this one woman wanting to ask a question is.
Guess which issue First Hubby will pursue...
First, there are legitimate reasons to question some of the specific numbers in the Kinsey report. Serious well-meaning scientists have done so for years.
Second, it doesn't matter whether the specific numbers are a bit different than what were in the Kinsey report. Whether it's 10%, 20%, or 2%, people in that slice of the population continue to be human just like the ones who aren't, and therefore should be treated fairly and consistently with everyone else. Stop letting politicians and zealots draw you into inane debates about whether it's one number or another and stick to the core issues involved.
Kinsey's report major flaw was its sampling method. So, in fact, it could have overstimated the number og gays in society. Current estimates vary from 4% to 10%. However just because gays constitute a small majority does not mean that they should be danied fundamental right under the US Constitution or the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Bachmann's argument is that they should be denied thses rights.
Why this woman bothers with a topic so irrelevant, especially considering her own husband is gay, is beyond me. It just shows how bigoted the conservatives still are. !
bachmann must have ate Chinese and is taking advice from her fortune cookie. " Say nothing and appear smart rather than to open mouth and remove all doubt. CONFUCIUS.
This is the modus operandi of the religious reich: Call peer reviewed, empirical evidenced, scientific data a "myth", then go around with your buybull, which is in fact a myth, and promote it as fact. The people who support the Bachmann's and their ilk are anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-reality, anti-logic, anti-human and simply, UNAMERICAN.
Not to worry! In a few days she pass into obscurity right along with Palin. She'll write a book, make some money and probably end up a pundit on FOX News during the up-coming election cycle.
Bachmann and the Republiican candidates are so backwards in their social beliefs its truly unbelievable and that makes me not want to vote for any of them (except maybe Ron Paul) but what is the other alternative?? Obama who will drive this country broke, give everything and more to illegals, and give every loser a welfare check or SSI benefits. There is nowhere good to turn !!
Does she really seriously think she has a chance??? What a waste of time and money. Feed the hungry Ms. Bachman..do us all a favor.
In this instance Rep. Bachmann is correct. The Kinsey Report has not been verified by additional research. At most, large, randomized studies show homosexuality rates at no more than 3% (and most are around 1%). Not that Wikipedia is that great of a source but read the Wikipedia entry about the Kinsey Report. What that entry is missing however, is the research (which I have read) showing homosexuality rates are much much lower than Kinsey reported. Just because you do not like Rep. Bachmann doesn't mean she is incorrect. And no, I would not vote for her.
Palin's handlers also instituted that she not answer any questions during campaign appearances. It wasnt for speed. It was because she was ignorant. Sounds familiar. Bachmann boasted that Cain's supporters were flocking to her. Obviously the numbers are going in the opposite direction. Drop out now Michele. In this holiday season, Republicans must remember "Separation of Church and State" and really what's most important. The person who's birthday they celebrate on December 25 was most likely a Democrat!!!
That kinsey stat is wrong its more like 2-3%. I am gay and have heard it for a long time. His survey methods were seriously lacking. Much of his research dealt with criminals and sexual preditors.
The fact is, the Kinsey reports are out of date; they were written in the late 40s and early 50s. Even if you just google the question, you will find a range of answers, with more recent survey's indicating the number is more around 5%.
I'm not sure what difference it makes anyway, as the issue is more about equal rights than it is how many people are entitled to them. Everyone is.
Could we please see Bachman's peer reviewed journal published research findings. Otherwise she is just spouting pure B.S. She and her husband constantly spout off their views with no valid research to back it up. There is nothing scientific behind any of their work.
Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies. Oh wait, yes I will.
I think Ms Bachmann wants a nice long break. She looks stressed. It is hard work trying to ruin the country.
She can't take questions because she lacks the intelligence to answer anything she has not prepped for!
And as far as the Kinsey Report, what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING????
There have been several independent studies from various sources that show the gay percentage is less than 5%.
IIn one study, a large group of woman were observed for over 5 years (before, during and after college).
Of the woman that stated they were gay, over 50% of them stopped being gay by the end of the study, with almost all of those citing they were 'just in a phase'.
I know several people in the mental health field and all of them have said 99% of the homosexual patients they treat were sexually abused.
This has also been scientifically studied and proven.
For this reason, I will never, or would never, harass or belittle someone for being gay. They've suffered enough.
Just let them live their lives and be happy. That's all anyone can ask.
It's not that Republicans or Democrats don't like "gay" people; it's that they don't think they should be granted special rights. Additionally, Politicians don't ever want the perception that it's ok to actively make life tougher for the "gay" people, that would be descrimination. But.... you cannot force someone to like broccolli when they don't. You can't force a horse to drink more water, when it does not want to. In the same way, you can't force the American population to like or dislike non-gays or gays. We all know that gay people have a place in our society as normal people... Just so long as the dark greens should sit in the back of the bus and light greens sit in the front.
The Republicans have made a mockery of our goverment and country. Bachmann and her Republican peers are playing the American people for stupid and some people actually believe this crap.
Obama 2012
"The person who's birthday they celebrate on December 25 was most likely a Democrat!!!"
Jesus never hated anyone and since hate is only found in Democrats not Republicans, he is certainly no Democrat. Witness the behavior that goes on in the bluest parts of America, Jesus would never have a total disregard for human life as most Democrats do. Jesus would not support mobsters, he wouldn't endorse a president who calls those who simply disagree with him the enemy and a vice president who calls them terrorists.
Get used to "not answering questions" because that will be her m.o. if she makes it into office too. She will answer questions from those who already agree with her, but thats all. Anyone see the youtube vid of her campaigning and taking questions from high school students about gay marriage and gay rights? Watching someone try to spin and candy-coat bigotry is really quite the spectacle, and she was ON!!! A few women asked her if she thought gays should have the right to marry, and of course she didn't just say "No" (which is actually a shame because it would really save her some time on the campaign trail). What she said was that she believes in equal rights under the law for all sexual orientations, mmmmm, well played there. But the young woman retorted with something like, " Since the laws right now are NOT equal for all orientations would you try to fight for those rights?" Her answer was priceless, an absolute tapestry of B.S., woven with all the usual transparent ignorance of a Bible-thumping Repub. I can't even really paraphrase or even sum it all up, because there was nothing to sum up. She talked for a solid 2 minutes and said nothing. She could've saved even more time and just said, "Equal rights– to a point, but there's a line. The law says no and I won't change the law." Is this not Michelle Bachmann's point?
She thinks gays should have some rights, but not all the rights of the majority. Hey I learned about something JUST LIKE THAT in history class, what was it called... can't quite remember... oh yeah, SLAVERY! After slavery was ended black people still couldn't VOTE until decades later. Well now, it isn't ILLEGAL to be gay (Bachmann isn't in office yet), but gays still don't have the same civil rights. Slavery and sexual discrimination are too VERY different things, I only draw the comparison in principle. But I thought we realized that we were all just people a long time ago. Apparently not.
Bachmann followers, didn't you ever have a gay friend? A gay acquaintance even? A gay family member? Haven't you met a man who was obviously a woman stuck in a man's body? Haven't you seen enough examples in school or your adult life of hatred toward gays? Don't you see the news stories about gay high school students committing suicide because of how socially ostracized they are? Don't you see the mental, physical, and psychological damage being done? Do you want to perpetuate this US vs THEM dynamic? Is this in any way helpful to anyone or a progressive step for our country?
Funny thing is, a lot of wing-nut, anti-gay Jesus-ey Repubs think that they are the uber-patriots, the true Americans. I guess we should change the Statue of Liberty so it says, "Bring me your poor, your tired, etc..... but don't bring any gay people." Ahhhh now doesn't that have the sweet sound of American liberty and tolerance? Oh... wait
VOTE NOBODY in 2012
Change will only come from the people
A campaign is dead when it stops taking questions.
I'm not sure what the percentage of our population is gay. Indeed, I could care less. My point is they are people. Those that are citizens are citizens. Citizens are (should be) ALL covered by the same constitutional rights. As a married man (42 years) I cannot understand why anyone would feel their marriage was threatened by this issue. As an agnostic I cannot understand why anyone would believe that you can pray away gay.
@Doug: "hate is only found in Democrats not Republicans,"
Wow, you really are deluded! You suffer greatly from projection and transference, incapable of accepting the ugly truth about Republicans and instead attributing it to Democrats. Your posts would be amusing if they weren't so pathetic.
Doug says Jesus was not a Democrat.
Matthew 25:40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
Sounds like a Democrat to me!
It is not about gay rights, as Republicans support them, it is about taking away ones religious rights, as the Democrats want to force all churches not Islamic to marry gays with it being illegal for them to deny based upon their religious principles. Side with freedom for all, vote Republican thank you.
geez, is she still running? well, i guess she has to spend all those funds she raised back when she was the frontrunner for 15 minutes.
Bachmann is just trying to build name recognition, so when she finally quits, she'll be able to negotiate a better price for her "expertise."
Hasn't she ever heard of Anita Bryant? Well maybe she hasn't. Bryant's career got flushed down the toliet when she went on an anti gay crusade.
@Bill Botwin: I'm all for gay rights and whatnot, but the decades' old Kinsey study is far from the gold standard anymore. A *lot* of subsequent research has been done that puts the number as low as 2%. The point is that the number quoted by the "gay friendly Iowan" is far from definitive. Bachmann in this case (unfortunately) makes a good point.
@Alex December 18, 2011 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm
"Reality is that both the pro-gay lobby and the anti-gay lobby are equally guilty of trying to impose their beliefs on the majority that just doesn't care. Just live and let live."
Really? Were the suffragettes just trying to push their agenda? Was the civil rights movement just pushing their agenda? "Live and let live" only works when there is an acceptance of equality among all people. I'd say that one agenda is most definitely pushing the agenda of the other here.
Seriously? This article is attempting to divert people away from actual issues. Gay rights are no longer a major issue, at least not in IOWA. If your state is anti-gay, complain to your state reps. The President should support less government control. In Iowa, Gays already receive equal benefits from employers just like married straight people. YES, these rights should be nationalized! A MORE IMPORTANT National issue is the decriminalization of "POT". Gays are not put in jail for being gay are they? I didn't think so... I would also argue that a larger population consumes marijuana as opposed the the gay population. Just Sayin...
Michele Bachmann knows she's right because the voices in her head tell her so.
"Suicide is extremely destructive to oneself "
Done right it is
She is first on this site because???????????
She is one scary reactionary!
I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that a Republican in general, or Ms. Bachmann in particular, would dismiss an empirical, peer-reviewed scientific fact that runs contrary to her ideology. The Republican party in general never ceases to amaze when it comes to the degree to which they allow their confirmation bias to run completely amok.
That's Bachmann alright, never let punny facts get in the way of bigotry
Well I for one do not think there is a gay gene. But if there were, would it's evolutional purpose be like other genes that Darwin would say are meant to keep the best genes evolving since the gay gene would stop at its current carrier. You see, I have nothing against gay's or lesbian's but you do realize that to have children you need a man and a woman and therefore I don't think god meant for gay's or lesbians to have kids and carry on their bloodlines.
I bet that "scary peepers" was tongue tied on that one.
What will she say when her husband finally comes out of the closet (not that he doesn't already have one foot out the door). She is a racist, ignorant, hateful, bitter person who should never have been given *any* political position.
She didnt research this herself. Instead she got a letter from someone's mother telling her it was a myth.
Her interview on Meet the Press was awkward yet entertaining. She was using the "it's a fact because I'm ingoring David Gregory and talking over him while he's trying to correct a blantant lie I just told" stragegy.
"doug
.....Jesus never hated anyone and since hate is only found in Democrats not Republicans"
sarcasm right? had to be.
"he wouldn't endorse a president who calls those who simply disagree with him the enemy and a vice president who calls them terrorists."
Bush: either with us or against us.
Her "campaign" is obiviously her just trying to pull a Palin so she can make some money publishing nonsense books and speaking at extremist conventions. How long will it be until she says she can wave to Santa since the mangnetic North pole keeps moving farther into Canada?
Can anyone imagine President Obama "not answering questions"? There is the difference, if you cant find anything else.
Maybe she learned a lesson from the Perry Implosion... each time he opened his mouth, he sunk in the polls. Better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt, eh?
That college student in the article made a very good point. When you're president, you represent ALL Americans, including gay Americans. So if you don't acknowledge it then you can't truly represent America. She and other political candidates NEED to stop being so ignorant to the gay issue.
Like her pal palin Michelle should realize that there will be no Hail to the Chief. Pray away the gay Michelle. Dispute facts with no counter inteligence. A clinic that accepts tax payers dollars. Done
She's actually right. I'm far far far from being a supporter of Bachmann but the actual percentage is about 4% in men and 2-3 % in women. Kinsey's Report was horrible in terms of research samples, etc. I hate to have anything in common with her but 10% is way high of an estimate.
And now we see why the campaign has a "no questions" policy.
I don't believe it. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it.
- Douglas Adams
If this woman dealt in facts she would have dropped out of the race by now.
I wouldn't think it would be 10%, basing that on people I know. I know that a lot of people are still in the closet, and don't talk about such things, but I don't really buy the 10% figure. I am accepting of gays, I see no reason to judge them, or infringe on their rights as citizens of the United States. At my highschool of 1100 people there wasn't even close to 110 gay people, or in my family I have 3.
Bachmann's husband is obviousy a product of that so-called "cure."
Yes, the Kinsey Report was flawed in several ways and didn't initially survey a large enough group. That's why Masters and Johnson did their surveys and tests and got pretty much the same result. The Bachmanns are delusional people.
She is just waisting money.
Shouldn't she be in DC voting on a tax cut?
While I do hate to agree with Bachmann on ANYTHING, let alone the hottest of hot-button issues... She's right about this one.
The Kinsey Studies were really very shoddy scientifically and the results molded and spun in ways that would have make Karl Rove proud. The "10% Gay" finding counted anyone who had ever had a weird dream, urge, or whim as 'gay'. The studies were done in order to justify the Kinsey's own beliefs and behavious, and have LONG since been discredited even in the anti-conservative universities that people like Bachmann hate.
She's wrong about her overall opinions when it comes to gays... but not about this specific point.
Actually I think only 2 – 3% of the population is gay. 10% is probably too high. At any rate being a smaller minority its easier to be trampled on and ignored, unfortunetely.
ThinkAgain and Cedar Rapids, thanks for the assist. I was too flabbergasted to reply!
Typical fundamentalist/republican reasoning. Start with the desired conclusion, then try to work backwards and string cherry-picked facts together to form a quasi-logical line of reasoning.
Okay, to begin, I'm not a fan of Bachmann–at all. However, this is getting stupid. Most of these posts are by people who have no idea of what the Kinsey report actually is, have never read the Kinsey report, nor have they read academic critiques of the flawed methodology behind the report. Bachmann is on on a campaign tour making stump speeches about issues like job creation, and so, while I agree that the stonewalling ("no questions") approach isn't helpful, it's ludicrous to imply that she is a hateful person because she's not centering her platform around the issue of suicide rates of gay teens, gay rights, etc. Also, I don't understand why Kathy Schnell was even at the rally posing as a Bachmann supporter if she is actually a Democrat who probably isn't going to vote for a Republican candidate anyway. Ridiculous.
Sarah
Jesus wouldn't treat gays this way now would he, Ms. Bachmann? Afghanistan has its Taliban. The US the Tea Party.
December 18, 2011 07:38 pm at 7:38 pm |
Sarah I ask you, can you give us a couple of examples how you equate the Tea Party and the Taliban? And we let people like you vote.
I take issue with the way CNN decided to write the paragraph below. It is an example of poor journalism.
"Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting 'reparative therapy' by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in."
The way the paragraph currently reads implies that such help exists gay men and women when certain professionals “try” to provide it. Either the word “help” should be placed in quotations or the sentence should be rewritten to read something to the effect of: " …by attempting to turn gay individuals into straight individuals…"
Accusing ALL Republicans of being anti-gay rights is like accusing ALL Democrats of being on welfare. I used to be a Democrat and I sure wasn't on welfare.....hmmm. Anyway, I left that party and am now an Independent Voter and instead of stereotyping each candidate by party affiliation, I judge the candidate themself. My candidate for 2012, Jon Huntsman, is a Republican but is supportive of gay rights (kind of disproves your ALL GOP's are anti-gay "myth"): “On the domestic front, and as it specifically pertains to our greater LGBT community, Governor and Mrs. Huntsman are particularly supportive of our issues,” wrote Moran, a consultant who also is involved with the GOP gay-rights group known as the Log Cabin Republicans. Moran wrote that Huntsman supported legislation that established civil unions for gays in Utah in 2009 and also set up regular meetings with the Log Cabin Republicans as governor.
Good old Michelle. She boldly proves herself over and over to be the one woman in America certifiably dumber than Sarah Palin. There's some sort of accomplishment there, I'm just not sure what it is.
**** Many will not admit that Bachman is right.
Yup, Bachman is right.
She is so far right, she has fallen of the edge of the world.
Oh my god !!!!!
Being Gay is a disease that should be treated. Proof? If all people were gay, the human race would die and cease to exist.
Ummm, let me explain something.
All gay children come from straight parents.
There is thing called "biology" please read about it.
Bachmann is another example of a trend of the Republican Party where it has been less than capable of putting forth a solid field of reasonably intelligent presidential candidates. I can't figure it out, just as I could not fathom the epic lack of judgement by the GOP/ McCain handlers that laid that foul egg that made Sarah Palin John McCain's running mate. Someone commented that Bachmann is just Palin 2.0 and, as funny as that is, one must ask why the GOP 'dumbing down' the candidates.
Some may find a big spending, liberal, Ivy League academic unpalatable, but responsible Republicans need to be mindful of swift and sound intellectual beat down that McCain was given in the last Presidential debates. Irrespective of political leanings, Obama was dignified in the mercy he showed the venerable and heroic soldier. Now fast forward to next year and picture each of the current GOP candidates and how many would be able to compete in that contest. That would eliminate all but two of the current stable of candidates and Bachmann....not a prayer!
I don't really like Michelle Bachman – but she is RIGHT about Kingsey. Check out a Youtube video called The Kingsey Coverup. This man practiced dubious science – he discarded 75% of all data that disagreed with his findings. His subjects were disproportionately selected from the gay, homeless and criminal communities and did not reflect the American population as a whole. There is also evidence that he aided and abetted child molestation in order to study it.
Again, check out The Kingsey Coverup on Youtube.
Not that I agree with Bachmann even slightly- shes a complete moron with little idea of the workings of government who thinks it would be fun to play president- but I'd like to know what follow up studies there are to the Kinsey Report (I'm sure there must be some) to see if they concur. After all, one study means squat; they must be backed up by subsequent studies to hold any weight.
For an accurate report about gays/lesbians, you're going to have to go to the oldest book that I know of in the world – The Bible. God says it pretty plain: that He didn't create/make people be gay/lesbian. Read further, and you'll find in His Word that people choose who they want to be. They may be influenced by family, schools insisting on teaching the gay lifestyle & choosing to be politically correct than have the courage to just teach the truth, but the bottom line, from what I know from His Word is this: God did not make anyone gay/lesbian – we, as individuals choose that when we depart from his Word. Having said that, its also important for those who are true Christians – those who choose to follow Jesus – that we have respect for those in the gay/lesbian lifestyle, and have compassion on them. Most importantly, to pray for those in that lifestyle – that the truth will be shown, not as I say; not as society says, but what the Word of God says. And to me, that's really the bottom line.
I can't believe the Republicans are banging the "defense of marraige" act drum AGAIN! Seriously, there are actual problems in our country that need to be solved. These people are beyond clueless. This is such a huge waste of time and resources. For all of those that hate gays so much that you would deny them a basic priviledge due to your personal bias here is my advice: move to an island with like minded people such as yourself and leave the rest of us alone. You are not wanted. You focus on non-issues in leu of trying to solve actual problems. For the record: I am a Christian and am constantly disgusted by the anti-gay policies of the Republicans (and Democrats) and feel that they are pandering to the lowest, most thoughtless and clueless section of our country in order to garnish votes.
And for Michelle.... how do you explain gay mammels in the wild, did they choose to be gay? Maybe they were socialized into it? I've had a cousin who has been gay since he was a little boy... it was obvious when he was a little boy.. are you going to tell me he choose at 4 to be gay??? Seriously people get a clue, quit relying on an old book that you take way too literally for all your life answers.
This person makes me ashamed to be an American!
in my mind, the percentage doesnt even matter. being gay is not illegal according to the laws of the US. the president is there, in part, to enforce the laws.
I suspect her handlers have elected to shift to a "no questions" approach because every time this lady tries to answer a question her ignorance leaps out making room for her foot to go deeper into her mouth.
@michelle
So if it's in the Bible, that means God said it? Interesting, I was always under the impression that people wrote the Bible.
The Republican position on gay rights is indefensible, which is why every year it loses more ground. It can not stand up to scrutiny and will crumble under the weight of injustice. People will continue to chip away it until it is gone.
I have never seen anything like this..........everyone is going NUTS or just NUTS on the GOP SIDE......Michelle is nutty than Mitt who claims he can fix's the econmy but never once say how and the only reason why he wants to run is because of the power because people with money wants everything Mitt can not fix sh$t he just want to be Pres just because and don't give a damn about anyone .......Gingrich a great debator but ...... can not be trusted to much you know what. looking for the big kill $$$$$$$$$$.......and Perry he just want to be there always have a smile on his face.
Get a grip Schnell. You are attempting to choose a candidate on whether she agrees with your gayness. That is ridiculous, and that is what CNN wants to make headline news. The presidency is about who can lead this country into a better place economically, socially, worldly. No, gayness is not on the list. It's not important to the 99% of the population.
I'm so glad this woman won't be our next president. I can't wait until she disappears from the media spotlight.
Grampa nailed those radical extremists like Bachman. The GOBP wingnut/teabagger trainwreck implosion continues full speed ahead.
Tell me, of her 23 (or is it 28?) children, has one ever come forward and spoken up for their Mother? I saw a picture of her family (the natural children only) once in an article. I think that speaks volumes about her as a mother and as a person..
I do not choose a party and I do not deny that ALL human beings are hypocritical. I stand for freedom, freedom to be who I was born to be, do what I want to do, date who I want to date, but unfortunatley there is not a party that truley represents this. Government is run by money not the people anymore, if it ever was run by the people in the first place...
They don't even believe Darwin, what makes you think they would believe Kinsey?
I think she is wonderful. She is not a heterophobe as so many people are today. Secondly she is not fearful as many Americans are today. Her disposition is quite gracious considering what is done to her on late night tv. Her greatest sin is being a Christian. It will be nice when the Muslims take over and we can get some good old bigotry going. All the heterophobe haters haven't seen anything yet.
wow – an almost 100% anti Bachman response here. Good thing there is a protected place for dem posters to gather and repeat the dem mantra "If you disagree with me, obviously you are wrong" (Oh, always use the cherry-picked polls and research to back up you 'facts') I thought everybody knew the Kinsey's were fakes and fabricated most of their research...
Michelle:
The Bible didn’t one day fall from the sky unto the head of some the unsuspecting farmer like a coke bottle. The Bible is a collection of interpretive accounts as written by people. I believe in God; but I don’t believe that his son walked on water. I use the Bible as a rational guide and reference point from which to live a positive life; and I wish my dearest Gay friends a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays this season!
So in the Bachmann/Tea Party world:
Rigorous study of population, scientific method and statistical analysis of the basic attraction around orientation of human beings: Myth
Writings of desert nomads about wizards and talking snakes with no study or evidence base: Fact
You'd think with a gay husband that Michelle Bachmann would be more tolerant and accepting of gays in general.
What a complete psycho this woman is.
If you want to be president you have to be receptive to what concerns the people, was expressed by one person while having all questions ignored by Bachmann. With Bachmann it seems that consistently she is more concerned with what she wants to express and not what the people want to express – again she lacks a real ability to understand and thereby to represent the people – instead simply focusing on being loud with what she considers will excite and simply hoping to be the chosen "puppet" by "the money" who she will listen to.
The bible was written by men but inspired by God. Get some edumacation before making comments.
Why even write an article on this? She's not a contender in the race. Her ignorance, and that of her husband, is not worth reporting on.
CNN and the far left need to stop pushing their gay agenda with misinformation. The Kinsey report is myth. It was was not a representative study (not a cross section of the American public). Hugely influenced by criminal and reprobate elements who were studied. Many studies have been done since that indicate that only 2-3% are choosing a gay lifestyle. 10% - perhaps in Hollywood, Congress, and at CNN.
It would be nice if science would spawn mutants, as per "X-Men" so that "normal" humans could get a real beatdown on planet Earth.
oh Michele... Let me share a myth with you... You will be elected President in 2012. Arent myths fun?
B. Obama 2012 – M Obama 2016 – M. Obama 2020
Let the good times roll.
michelle, who's Bible are you referring to? Who wrote it? Who edited it? Books from the Bible were removed and stripped out, words have been dropped or changed, their original meanings and context lost. Has it crossed your mind that you might be in error?
@michelle:
Hmmm... I've read the entire Bible, and there's not a single mention of cancer. So clearly, God didn't make cancer either. It's a choice people make.
How do you even tie your shoes in the morning? Or do you wait for Jesus to tell you?
Hopefully she'll never return to political office and stick to making money of her 'looney tune' followers. What a disgrace to Americans, why is anyone still on the GOP wagon, is beyond any rhyme or reason.
blake, the far right needs to stop pushing their bigotry on everyone else, and passing it off as morality. The Kinsey study was groudbreaking because it was the first attempt to qualify intimate behavior without social stigma. Was it perfect? Obviously not, but to dismiss it and cling to the comclusions that best fit your world outlook is even more irresponsible than clinging to the study as if it were Holy Writ. BTW, talk to your local Log Cabin Republican Group to see what they think, if you dare.
Wow, her husband sounds just like Liberace. It must be tough for her to live in such denial.
**** doug
"The person who's birthday they celebrate on December 25 was most likely a Democrat!!!"
Jesus never hated anyone and since hate is only found in Democrats not Republicans, he is certainly no Democrat
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I just spit my beer all over my monitor when i read this.
See what the Republican party has become.
All Democrats want to steal your babies and eat them,
and beat up your grandma,
and, oh wait, we hate America, and we love war.
The republican party has been hijacked by the religious right, and corporate wall street
and have convinced you that they actually freaking care about.
You are just too "branded" and stupid to see it.
Michelle Bauchman and her husband can kiss my butt. He thinks he can "repair" gay people???? Seriously. I'm so tired of having to explain to intelligent people it's not a CHOICE!!! There are so many reasons why I would never vote for this clown. Equal RIghts for ALL Americans Period!!!!
"Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington." ie... She's a racist.
"Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington." ie: She's okay with gay's, but not blacks.
Why do we continually allow ourselves to get caught up in these questions about numbers and causes? The reality is that it doesn't matter if we're .01% of the population or 90% of the population, nor does it matter why we're gay. We just are. And we don't need to justify it by pumping up our numbers or discussing "nature vs. nuture". In the end, what matters is whether discrimination and bigotry is codified into law. As long as it is, we should fight it, and we should fight those, like Bachmann, who would maintain the status quo.
Trends come and go, but poor doug is still insane. Get help, doug. You sound about ten minutes from a shooting spree every time you post.
Whatever happened to free speech? I get "moderated" consistently but cannot determine why. I believe my observations are not PC enough. Why have a discussion if what is not what you want to hear not allowed. Please allow opposing opinions not just what you want to hear.
Just a bubble from the pool of drowning zealots in the race of the GOP wannabees, trying to out-christian her rivals. She's toast and too dumb to know it. One of the more scarey ones, but we still have Newt up there... waiting to self destruct.
A republican disputes scientific conclusions?! Say it ain't so!
Statistics can be misleading. Just like how they add "homeless people" to the list if they are living with relatives.
50%, 10%, or 0.5%...I did not know there was an acceptable limit for discrimination
When asked for proof that Kinsey's figures were wrong, she replied that someone told her so at a campaign rally.
Religious Conservatives are brain-dead and very un-spiritual beings. I know that because God just spoke to me about it.
good comment MarklnPDX but I hope your fighting Obama too who doesn't beleive in gay marriage or is Obama just lying to get elected. Gov't should stay out of peoples lives.
"Why even write an article on this? She's not a contender in the race. Her ignorance, and that of her husband, is not worth reporting on."
Stirring up the masses (voters) to fight against one another has been a major theme at CNN for the last few years. Now that Cain is out of the picture, the bigotry of Michele Bachmann is next in the *let's keep 'em ripping at each other* category. Minus the facts. CNN itself doesn't like fact based articles. Just throw out a bunch of innuendo for the people to fight over and let 'em rip each other up.
MarkInPDX, excellent post!!! What matters in this debate is that as long as there are financial benefits to being married and the government gets to decide who is married, this will be an issue. I think one solution is to either end the tax advantages for being married or open up these benefits to contractual relationships. I would think the Tea Party would be all over this!
This woman is a typical closed minded, ignorant, bigoted Conservative! The Republican party should be embarrassed to have Bachman as one of their congressional members and candidate! Can the GOP drop any lower?
Praying that America wakes up and SEES the idiots running for the presidency on the GOP side!! Pathetic!!!
OBAMA 2012............ YES WE CAN!
Exactly how Sarah Palin would have handled her campaign. Talk, talk, talk, no questions, no comment. Then, expect to get elected.
Is there anything that this gal is not wrong about? It is a total condemnation of this country that she is on the House Intelligence Committee. Just another sign that the GOP holds intelligence in such low regard. Are we not men? We ARE Devo!
Bauchman might be right on this one. It is not really know how many people are gay in the US because there are gay people who don't want it known that they are gay. There have been other studies since Kinsey (which is an old study) and the findings vary from 5% to 10%.
It is a disease that humans are trying to figure out. It is curable as it has been cured. You can shout and scream to drown my voice but I will say it again and again, it is a curable disease. I don't hate people, I just don't like the disease.
Quoting Mrs. Gump when speaking to her son Gump: "Stupid is, as stupid does"
Someone please tell Michelle that the person sleeping next to her, husband, is also gay.
The real myth is that her husband isn't gay . . . haaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!
No questions, don't quote scientific evidence or facts. Just shut up and listen to me. Thanks Ms. Bachman. I wrote last week that although I don't agree with any of your positions, I respected at least your feistiness and the work you put into your campaign. But you should never be in a position of leadership. You're a nice lady for the most part, but jeeez, some of your statements are nutty.
I am a Christian, pro-lifer,and believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. That being said, I realize that this country that I live in does not share my views 100%, and the POTUS should represent all citizens and not just those who agree with my position. The most destructive thing in our society is how biased we are toward one another. I don't have to agree with you on everything in order to respect you for your views, just like I want to be respected. Too many of us act like children in a sandbox, and resort to hatefulness, and name calling when someone does not share our views, how constructive is that? Rodney King really was on to something when he said, can't we all just get along.
Gay people are a myth. They can be healed.
10% of the population is NOT Gay. Only 3-4%, a very small portion is Gay. Of course some cities have a higher concentration than the 3-4%, but most other places have much less.
Merry Christmas Gay America.
Merry Christmas to our straight friends, and thank you.
The troops are out of Iraq....................Yeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle Bachmann should never try to improve the situations by introducing facts. She hasn't seen one in years, I'm sure she forgot where they are located. She should stick to her opinions which are much more believable.
**** Calvin
Gay people are a myth. They can be healed.
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Sorry Calvin, i dont want to be healed.
I am just fine.
By the way Calvin.....
if gay people are a myth, why would anybody have to heal them ?
They make me laugh with their "no questions policy" to supposedly keep Bachmann on schedule. The plain fact is that Michelle doesn't know anything about anything. The "Flat Earthers" were rocket scientists compared to her. Luckily, she doesn't stand a chance in Hell of being elected President. Thank God for That!
Don't be stupid. The gay kid wasn't going to vote for Bachman anyway so she lost nothing. The gay community only cares about expanded rights for gays. Their vote will depend on who they believe will give them the most. That was the same thing with Obama. Let me be a little bit loose with this percentage to make a point. Obama got about 95% (not sure what the exact percentage but it is huge) of the black vote that either wanted to elect a black president or wanted a president who would give them as much as possible. Even black Republicans voted for Obama. That is very racist. What every person who votes should consider is which candidate will be the best for the country.
Why wasn't Obama and Biden asked why they were AGAINST Gay marriage? McCain got the question but
all President Obama has to do is say he is for it %100. At least she says what she really believes even if she is wrong.
I wonder if Michelle shares her clothes with her husband.
I think i just went insane.
"No Questions" equals No Votes
*** Atul Chaudhary
It is a disease that humans are trying to figure out. It is curable as it has been cured. You can shout and scream to drown my voice but I will say it again and again, it is a curable disease. I don't hate people, I just don't like the disease.
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Humans have figured it out.
There is nothing wrong with gay people
except what has been inflicted on them by ignorance and religion.
Is somebody screaming at you ?
Maybe its that little voice in your head telling you that you are wrong.
Breathe deep, fly high, seek help.
Why are we trying to count gay numbers ?
I was sixteen years old, and my straight nieghbor, married with two children,
attended church every Sunday, and loved to play with the nieghborhood kids,
I went after him like he came with green stamps, and i got him !
So should i count him as straight, gay, or bi....??
Some people are straight.
Some people are gay.
Most slide someplace in between.
Its just human nature.
Bachmann may be an idiot but in this case she's right. I've yet to meet the Sociologist that still accepts the Kinsey report as accurate. If a (D) had said this I'm sure CNN would be trotting out the experts to say "yes we find there are a lot of flawed collection methods and inaccuracies in the Kinsey report."
so much for the "compassionate conservative". as usual, they live in their own little world........ closed off from the truth, and avoiding anything that might make them squirm.
Just ignore her – she'll go away – kinda like how she and gay Marcus ignores facts and truth.
Can the Bachmanns make it any more obvious that, basically, their philosophy is, "If we don't like it or don't believe in it, it's a myth. And if it's factually untrue, but we like it or believe in it, it is truth and reality."
ok we get it you gays don't like her.....,fine now back to the closet.....
Why no questions? What is the use in stumping?
Not that it matters what percentage of the population is gay, but it the 10% number *is* a myth. Kinsey's report was absurdly flawed and every scientifically conducted study conducted disagrees with its findings. No reputable organization cites that number anymore.
How bad is CNN getting that Michelle freaking Bauchmann is on the right side of an article here?
Dear Michelle,
Those sleepovers with Sarah Palin are working out great.
You know how to suck the life out of your party.
You know how to make money, just write a book (Ghostwriter of course)
Get a job with Fox news, and dont answer any "gottcha" questions.
Smart enough to know you will NEVER get near the white house,
But tell the truth, you knew that all along, didnt you ?
Dont forget to pray your husband straight.
You got to tour America in a nice bus, and eat lots of great food,
and make lots of money.
As they say.....There is a sucker born every minute !!!!
Well played Michelle, well played.
Most of the republicans dont like "facts or truth", just fear and hoping that religion and the wealthy will take care of us. That has never worked.
I cant wait to go out and turn some straight guy gay.
Its a choice isnt it ?
This should be easy.
Couple of beers and a pizza should do it.
Men are so easy.
Still waiting for that $2.00 gallon gas.
And that's why she will NEVER be President.
*** Jo
10% of the population is NOT Gay. Only 3-4%, a very small portion is Gay. Of course some cities have a higher concentration than the 3-4%, but most other places have much less.
And how do you know this ?
Did you personally knock on every door in America and ask ?
What is your opinion based on ?
Oh, i know what it is.
All gay people are easy to tell.
Lesbians are truck drivers
and guys are fairies.
Let me set you "straight" on something.
Most of us are just everyday people, and you could not tell if we are gay
unless we jumped up and screamed it in your face.
We are just your average human being, we take your temperature at the
doctors office.
We deliver your mail.
We drive your children home in school busses.
I just handed you a pound of roast beef at the deli.
We support our rights as American citizens,
but most of us keep our lifes private.
You want a head count ?
With the help of our friends, our families, and "Sane" Americans,
we got DADT overturned, we are getting more states to vote for Marriage rights,
There is no going back, welcome to the real world.
Bachmann's biggest gay myth is that she thinks her husband is straight. You poor, sad, ignorant woman.
Pray the gay away people. All scientists agree that's the true path, right Michele? This, from a woman who contends that massive tax cuts for the wealthiest citizens have nothing to do with the massive deficits we are facing. I mean, how do you begin a serious conversation with such a dolt?
Note on how to do journalism: Include in your report whether it is, in fact, a myth.
Bachmann? Who is she again? Oh, that Bachmann, YAWN!!!!
I would hate to upset you Michele – it is higher than 10%!!
Who voted for this woman and why?