Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report
December 18th, 2011
06:45 PM ET
6 years ago

Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report

Clarion, Iowa (CNN) - Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann continued her super-charged bus tour across Iowa Sunday, attending several more events to shake hands and sign autographs.

Her events have been largely of the meet-and-greet variety - get in and out as fast as she can. The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving, and that generally applies to both the media and to Iowa voters.

But at her stop at a north central Iowa Pizza Ranch restaurant, she and her husband Marcus were met with a woman wearing a Bachmann sticker who was holding a sign that read: "Gay-friendly Iowan."

"I was wondering if you would sign my sign?" the woman wearing the sticker, who identified herself as Kathy Schnell, asked.

"Gay-friendly Iowan?" Bachmann asked with a small laugh as she signed her name.

Schnell thanked her and followed it with a question that, in reality, was more of a comment.

"I wonder if you're aware that 10% of the population is gay. And if you have 28 children, then 2.8 of those kids are very likely gay."

The congresswoman, within definite earshot as she hovered over Schnell, at first seemed to avoid the question, trying to say "hello" to someone new.

Schnell turned to her friend and said, "She's not listening to me."

Bachmann must have heard that because she then turned back.

"Well, that's according to the Kinsey Report," the candidate replied.

Dr. Alfred Kinsey is best known for conducting interviews with thousands of individuals and publishing his findings in books on human sexual behavior during the 1940s and '50s.

Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting "reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in.

"Your facts are wrong," he said.

"That's not valid?" Schnell asked back.

"No it isn't," Michele Bachmann said. Her husband added, "No, it's not at all. It's been a myth for many years."

The presidential hopeful then moved to the next table. Schnell pulled off her Bachmann sticker.

Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington.

Asked if she was surprised Bachmann signed her poster, Schnell said no.

"I think she wants to be a very nice person," Schnell said. "She's adorable. But I just don't think she should be our president."

Schnell wasn't the only one in the room passionate about gay rights. A handful of college students were also on hand in the restaurant at the time, but did not try to raise a question. After the event, however, the group stood outside waving rainbow flags, a common symbol of gay rights support.

Quentin Hill, an 18-year-old student at the University of Iowa, said he wanted to ask her a question as she worked the room but was told ahead of time not to.

"They weren't taking questions today. I asked one of her staffers and I was kind of shut down as soon as I started asking," Hill said, adding that he wanted to ask her about the issue of gay teen suicides.

"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for. So I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."

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Filed under: 2012 • Gay rights • Iowa • Michele Bachmann
soundoff (530 Responses)
  1. Mike

    Please don't let her anywhere near the Oval Office . . .

    December 19, 2011 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  2. Jack

    But of course praying away gayness is not a myth. Nor is Creationism. Nor is Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. Afterall, I guess, Science and the Scientific Method is all myth. Well, you have to realize something–she went to a 5th rate college (Oral Roberts Univ.) not known for it's rigorous academics or research and scholarship in the Sciences.

    December 19, 2011 09:54 am at 9:54 am |
  3. SEAL Team Alpha and Omega

    Bachman wants to ne President of the United Corporations of America, a place that is run by Factless Fox News retards and the Koch Brothers. Based on the Tea Party criteria for what constistues acceptable behavior, Jesus was be one of the 99%ers.

    December 19, 2011 09:55 am at 9:55 am |
  4. Publius Novus

    Kathy Schnell described Bachmann as "adorable." Wow. It must really be cold in Iowa.

    December 19, 2011 09:56 am at 9:56 am |
  5. Anonymous

    Bible says she's right, that settles it, bad science has always been around, gays have a choice, they made the wrong choice. Yes there is right and wrong in this world. Just because you libs deny it doesn't make it true.
    "It's my right to be gay, it's my right to kill my unborn baby. The difference is, you people and your president have no principles, no character. Ms Bachmann has strong principles, which is EXACTLY what this great country needs, not to be driven farther in the abyss by your kind!!!

    December 19, 2011 10:02 am at 10:02 am |
  6. Edwin

    There are a lot of flaws with the Kinsey Report and its conclusions. Amongst other things, the percentage of gays it found could easily be wrong. But... that does not mean we dismiss the report - it means we do better studies to draw better conclusions.

    I think the 10% sounds about right. But it might be as low as 5%, or as high as 15%. And it also doesn't factor in varying degrees of bisexuality.

    December 19, 2011 10:05 am at 10:05 am |
  7. Bob

    Kinsey included men in his studies who experineced homosexuality in jail. The 10% number is a lie. The real number is around 1% depending on how you define it. In any case, homosexuality is a behavior, not an ethnicity, like the woman in this story seems to think. Saying that the president has to represent "all Americans" not just straight ones is like saying he must represent all Americans, not just monogamists; or all Americans, not just those who don't smoke pot; or all Americans, not just those who don't engage in a swinging lifestyle. Polygamy, drug use, and swinging are behaviors, not an ethnicity, and the same is true for homosexuality.

    December 19, 2011 10:08 am at 10:08 am |
  8. Another Chris

    Bachmann is about as qualified for the Presidency as I am to be an astronaut.

    December 19, 2011 10:09 am at 10:09 am |
  9. Annie, Atlanta

    I would love to know how people like Bachmann, who hate what America stands for and actually hate some Americans, could ever be considered for our top spot.

    December 19, 2011 10:11 am at 10:11 am |
  10. taffd

    If the woman wants to be president, sooner or later she will have to actually answer questions

    December 19, 2011 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  11. Name Social Justice

    For once, a Bachmann got something right. The 10% figure IS from Kinsey's early, unscientific work. More scientifically solid surveys tend to put the figures at 4% or so for males and 2% or so for females. The stickler is the definition used for "homosexual." Kinsey's definition was anyone who had ever thought of sex involving a same-sex partner and been aroused. Modern surveys use self-identifiers (e.g. "I consider myself to be homosexual"). Of course, as scientists in the field point out, Kinsey was probably too inclusive, and modern studies probably suffer from some under-reporting, so social scientists usually estimate the percentages at somewhere between the two sets of numbers.

    December 19, 2011 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  12. David

    Bachmann hates Muslims? Bachmann hates, period.

    December 19, 2011 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  13. richard

    reoportedly, Baschman has been voted one of the 10 dumbest members of congress every year she has been in office –

    December 19, 2011 10:12 am at 10:12 am |
  14. Debbie

    Bachmann is just another anti-science GOP candidate.

    December 19, 2011 10:15 am at 10:15 am |
  15. Mike Gomez

    If you believe in Darwin, and if you believe that people are born gay, please explain how 10% of the population could be gay given that this 10% of the population is significantly less inclined to reproduce?

    December 19, 2011 10:15 am at 10:15 am |
  16. Jean

    How utterly convenient - a 'no questions policy.'

    December 19, 2011 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  17. Reload

    Bachman is actually correct. It is well known that Kensey's study was flawed and the fundimental question as asked generated a high percentage. The actual, accepted percentage is 2.8% for males and about half that for women. However, CNN, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. And yes, a small percent of gays have been success in "praying the gay away". That said, there is no excuse for persicution of gays in any way, shape or form and that is not what I read in Bacham's words or intent. Hey pro-gay folks, put your persecution complexes away. You are not helping. Love all.

    December 19, 2011 10:16 am at 10:16 am |
  18. Milkitsgood

    "accused of reparative therapy" ...since when did it become a crime to help those who want help? Look at transexuals..that's reparative therapy and surgery...all due to beliefs. The article should read "credited for helping many through reparative therapy"

    December 19, 2011 10:17 am at 10:17 am |
  19. Luke Brown

    She could probably have gotten away with saying that gays are an "invented" people. Republicans seem to readily buy into that kind of logic.

    December 19, 2011 10:20 am at 10:20 am |
  20. JJ

    Bachmann lives in a mythical world where statistics don't count unless they align with her myopic view of it. D-oh. Tell us something we don't know about this loser.

    December 19, 2011 10:21 am at 10:21 am |
  21. katy heys

    Michele Bachmann is not going to be President. Ever. She doesn't even have a chance at the nomination. She is a bigoted fool who denies gay Americans while at the same time she says she loves God. If she loves God, who does she think created gay folks?

    December 19, 2011 10:22 am at 10:22 am |
  22. Judy

    I only have one work for this woman. "bigot"

    December 19, 2011 10:23 am at 10:23 am |
  23. neoritter

    Bachmann is shockingly right here. The Kinsey report and scale are debunked. Mostly by other s3xual orientation scales. It's old, outdated, and inaccurate. No matter if you are or are not a supporter of gays you should not be using the Kinsey study or the scale, at least not by itself and definitely not as factual data in a question.

    December 19, 2011 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  24. Luke Brown

    Kinsey suggested that same gender sexual behavior was not as black and white as decided who is gay and who is straight.

    If a man has sex only one time with another man ... but 500 times with a woman, is he gay or straight?

    December 19, 2011 10:24 am at 10:24 am |
  25. tonyl

    Yes, we have whole lot of nuts in this country but I hope not enough to propel this right wing clueless religious fanatic to be a GOP nominee.

    December 19, 2011 10:25 am at 10:25 am |
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