Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report
December 18th, 2011
06:45 PM ET
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Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report

Clarion, Iowa (CNN) - Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann continued her super-charged bus tour across Iowa Sunday, attending several more events to shake hands and sign autographs.

Her events have been largely of the meet-and-greet variety - get in and out as fast as she can. The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving, and that generally applies to both the media and to Iowa voters.

But at her stop at a north central Iowa Pizza Ranch restaurant, she and her husband Marcus were met with a woman wearing a Bachmann sticker who was holding a sign that read: "Gay-friendly Iowan."

"I was wondering if you would sign my sign?" the woman wearing the sticker, who identified herself as Kathy Schnell, asked.

"Gay-friendly Iowan?" Bachmann asked with a small laugh as she signed her name.

Schnell thanked her and followed it with a question that, in reality, was more of a comment.

"I wonder if you're aware that 10% of the population is gay. And if you have 28 children, then 2.8 of those kids are very likely gay."

The congresswoman, within definite earshot as she hovered over Schnell, at first seemed to avoid the question, trying to say "hello" to someone new.

Schnell turned to her friend and said, "She's not listening to me."

Bachmann must have heard that because she then turned back.

"Well, that's according to the Kinsey Report," the candidate replied.

Dr. Alfred Kinsey is best known for conducting interviews with thousands of individuals and publishing his findings in books on human sexual behavior during the 1940s and '50s.

Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting "reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in.

"Your facts are wrong," he said.

"That's not valid?" Schnell asked back.

"No it isn't," Michele Bachmann said. Her husband added, "No, it's not at all. It's been a myth for many years."

The presidential hopeful then moved to the next table. Schnell pulled off her Bachmann sticker.

Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington.

Asked if she was surprised Bachmann signed her poster, Schnell said no.

"I think she wants to be a very nice person," Schnell said. "She's adorable. But I just don't think she should be our president."

Schnell wasn't the only one in the room passionate about gay rights. A handful of college students were also on hand in the restaurant at the time, but did not try to raise a question. After the event, however, the group stood outside waving rainbow flags, a common symbol of gay rights support.

Quentin Hill, an 18-year-old student at the University of Iowa, said he wanted to ask her a question as she worked the room but was told ahead of time not to.

"They weren't taking questions today. I asked one of her staffers and I was kind of shut down as soon as I started asking," Hill said, adding that he wanted to ask her about the issue of gay teen suicides.

"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for. So I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."

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Filed under: 2012 • Gay rights • Iowa • Michele Bachmann
soundoff (530 Responses)
  1. Katie

    "The Bible says she's right, that settles it" Actually, no it doesn't, because the Bible also admits gay people exist (Leviticus, Psalms, Solomon) and that gay love is a beautiful thing (Psalms, Solomon.) It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that the Kinsey Report is a myth. It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible that you can pray the gay away. It does say in the New Testament that Jesus' position is clear: "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." and to love one another as you love yourself one of two commandments everyone should follow.
    "bad science has always been around" Yes it has, and that would be science that is based on flawed studies or flawed logic, not science that doesn't fit one's personal belief system. Science is based on facts that can be proven. Belief is based on faith without any requirement at all of proof.

    I agree Ms Bachmann has strong principles. However, these are not the principles most people want governing their lives, and they are hypocritical if they do not provide solutions to problems they may incur. For instance, if Ms Bachmann (and you, apparently) believe that no one has the right to abortion, then you must also provide support for the mother during her pregnancy and support for mother and child after the birth – support that should include the basic needs of all human beings such as food, shelter, and clothing, as well as health care and financial aid, if needed.

    Lastly, it is no one's right to be gay. People ARE gay. They are born that way and will always be that way. It is their right to be acknowledged and to live their lives without fear and with the same rights as every other person.

    December 19, 2011 10:25 am at 10:25 am |
  2. Christine

    I wonder what the doctor was referring to as a "myth"...was it the numbers, or the fact that people are gay?
    I was raised in the LGBT community...and not one of them resembled a unicorn or leprechaun. No offense to unicorns and leprechauns, of course, but still.

    December 19, 2011 10:27 am at 10:27 am |
  3. v_mag

    All you righteous guys out there better go back and read your book again. You're missing a few sins. It's a sin to wear 2 different types of cloth at the same time. It's a sin to eat shellfish. It's a sin to do so much as lift a finger on the Sabbath, so you'd better not be watching TV on Sundays.

    If you're so big on removing the beam in your own eye before tackling the mote in someone elses, why don't you correct all those Torah sins in your lives before homing in on people who were born different from you?

    December 19, 2011 10:28 am at 10:28 am |
  4. Bill

    While she is a nut, she would still be better than the current clueless, anti-leader that occupies the White House.

    December 19, 2011 10:32 am at 10:32 am |
  5. tony

    Always good to remember the Republican Party at this blessed time of year. Satan's little helpers.

    December 19, 2011 10:33 am at 10:33 am |
  6. tony

    In the USA the most powerful Gods are those that require the biggest collection plates. Politicians know a good thing when they see it.

    December 19, 2011 10:35 am at 10:35 am |
  7. Greg

    "That's not true. It's been a myth for many years."

    So say the Bible believing Bachmanns.

    If you removed all the myths from the Bible, it would be the world's shortest book.

    December 19, 2011 10:35 am at 10:35 am |
  8. Rudy NYC

    Wasn't that study done decades ago when people would not admit to such things, not even anonymously?

    December 19, 2011 10:35 am at 10:35 am |
  9. tony

    I believe Ms, Bachmann is the very model of "your comment isn't awaiting Moderation"

    December 19, 2011 10:36 am at 10:36 am |
  10. FLIndpendent

    @NH Grandma – "Not happy with the one President who supports them? Go figure!"

    I coudn't agree with you more. This President has finally got rid of Don't Ask, Don't Tell and is a President for ALL the people, yet this person isn't happy with him?? Just don't get what they are looking for.

    December 19, 2011 10:37 am at 10:37 am |
  11. StraightShooter

    So, you are either gay or you are not. Right? It is not a choice. If it is not, then it must be in the genes. If it is in the genes, then the gay gene has much less chance of propagating than the straight gene. So, the proportion of gay population will remain small – more like an aberration not supported by the evolutionary mechanism. So, I think Bachmann is right on this one, to cast serious doubts on the "10%" myth.

    December 19, 2011 10:41 am at 10:41 am |
  12. edge

    Any candidate that declares "no questions" is little more than a celebrity. Why should I vote for someone just because they are willing to shake my hand? On a related note, I'd rather vote for an inanimate bottle of Purell than Michelle Bachmann.

    December 19, 2011 10:42 am at 10:42 am |
  13. Primewonk

    Randy wrote, " Homosexuality is not something that needs to be sanctioned and normalized by society. It is deviant sexual behavior."

    Then you should have absolutely no problem giving the DSM-4 listing.

    December 19, 2011 10:42 am at 10:42 am |
  14. eagle

    Bachman is right

    Kinsey made sampling errors – he ignored the "no response" in tabulating the "yes" or "no" responses in his surveys.Thus his 10% was based upon a skewed population, which in statistics is invalid samping technique. The "no responses" must be tabulated. It is seen in all polls today. Kinsey was aware of the huge "no responses" and ignored them.

    Sorry for the bad news, Kinsey was wrong. Many will not admit that Bachman is right.

    December 19, 2011 10:47 am at 10:47 am |
  15. Mark

    So by Schnell's facts out of the say 300 people I know well, then 90 of them will be gay? I can think of 6 maybe 7. To me that means someones numbers are flawed. I have met thousands of people over the years and I think 10% might be a little high. In the town I live there are about 4000 people, I think you would have a hard time finding 400, maybe 100. Don't know, but I don't think kinsey does either.

    December 19, 2011 10:50 am at 10:50 am |
  16. jim

    Don'tcha just hate the truth of science? The Republicans surely do. It is no wonder that with a university education costing upwards of $200,000 we still have so many uneducated individuals living in the U.S. But, then again, Republicans thrive on the uneducated.

    December 19, 2011 10:54 am at 10:54 am |
  17. DenInNooYawk

    Is Bachmann willing to fund further research into the question?

    December 19, 2011 10:54 am at 10:54 am |
  18. Mark

    LOL I find it hilarious the libs run around with thier coexsist, and tolerance bumperstickers are just as nasty and uninformed as the conservs. Just because someone doesn't agree with you on an issue like gays or religion does not make you right or them right. You might be right and you might not. Both sides have proof. Bachman is as qualified as the current dictaitor we have in office if not more so. I really don't need the govt. to tell me how to live and neither do you.

    December 19, 2011 10:57 am at 10:57 am |

    She has a "no questions policy" because she has no substantive answers.

    December 19, 2011 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  20. FLIndpendent

    "The truth is regarding the past 3 years' challenges: the GOP "leadership" declared war on Barack Obama and the people of the USA on Election Day 2008"

    Absolutely agree!! I can't understand why some who voted for President Obama can't be totally disgusted with the Repub/Tea Partiers who have disregarded their vote. They think since they won the House in 2010 that many changed their minds on Obama but the fact is that most Dems didn't turn out to vote which was extremely unfortunate. They have made a complete mockery of our democratic system. As far as Bachmann she doesn't take questions because she's afraid of that big "OOPS" moment which will come sooner or later. Have to admit though she's good at bashing Newt and I agree with another poster that she's vying for the VP spot – UGH!!!

    December 19, 2011 10:59 am at 10:59 am |
  21. leftcoast1

    The exact percentage of people who are gay, straight or bisexually really is unimportant. What is important is for society to accept people for who they are. What does it matter what two consenting adults want to do? As long as no one is harmed.

    Mr. and Mrs. Bachmann don't want to accept people for who they are. They much prefer predetermined set roles and types and categories. We would all be better off if our "leaders" were more open minded.

    December 19, 2011 11:02 am at 11:02 am |
  22. Scott in Atlanta

    @Luke Brown...

    Dude, are you serious? "Have sex with a man just one time"??? WTF. If you're not gay, why in the world would a man do that?

    C'mon maaaan.

    December 19, 2011 11:05 am at 11:05 am |
  23. Expat American

    The U.S. does not need a President who waves their Bible to prove their right; then hides behind it when proven wrong. That is why a Conservative Religious Fraud will never be President.

    December 19, 2011 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  24. Phil

    Science fact vs religious fiction. Which always comes out the winner?


    December 19, 2011 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  25. ShawnDH

    First of all, why do all right-wing politicians deem themselves experts on gayness? Their obsession with gay people borders on perverted, and their insistence that the government oppress gay people and dictate who can marry whom is the total opposite of the small, unintrusive government they are always babbling about. I don't know anybody who is so obsessed with gay people. But hey...I don't hang around with a lot of weirdo Republicans. As for gay rights, all I have to say is LET FREEDOM RING.

    December 19, 2011 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
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