Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report
December 18th, 2011
06:45 PM ET
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Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report

Clarion, Iowa (CNN) - Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann continued her super-charged bus tour across Iowa Sunday, attending several more events to shake hands and sign autographs.

Her events have been largely of the meet-and-greet variety - get in and out as fast as she can. The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving, and that generally applies to both the media and to Iowa voters.

But at her stop at a north central Iowa Pizza Ranch restaurant, she and her husband Marcus were met with a woman wearing a Bachmann sticker who was holding a sign that read: "Gay-friendly Iowan."

"I was wondering if you would sign my sign?" the woman wearing the sticker, who identified herself as Kathy Schnell, asked.

"Gay-friendly Iowan?" Bachmann asked with a small laugh as she signed her name.

Schnell thanked her and followed it with a question that, in reality, was more of a comment.

"I wonder if you're aware that 10% of the population is gay. And if you have 28 children, then 2.8 of those kids are very likely gay."

The congresswoman, within definite earshot as she hovered over Schnell, at first seemed to avoid the question, trying to say "hello" to someone new.

Schnell turned to her friend and said, "She's not listening to me."

Bachmann must have heard that because she then turned back.

"Well, that's according to the Kinsey Report," the candidate replied.

Dr. Alfred Kinsey is best known for conducting interviews with thousands of individuals and publishing his findings in books on human sexual behavior during the 1940s and '50s.

Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting "reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in.

"Your facts are wrong," he said.

"That's not valid?" Schnell asked back.

"No it isn't," Michele Bachmann said. Her husband added, "No, it's not at all. It's been a myth for many years."

The presidential hopeful then moved to the next table. Schnell pulled off her Bachmann sticker.

Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington.

Asked if she was surprised Bachmann signed her poster, Schnell said no.

"I think she wants to be a very nice person," Schnell said. "She's adorable. But I just don't think she should be our president."

Schnell wasn't the only one in the room passionate about gay rights. A handful of college students were also on hand in the restaurant at the time, but did not try to raise a question. After the event, however, the group stood outside waving rainbow flags, a common symbol of gay rights support.

Quentin Hill, an 18-year-old student at the University of Iowa, said he wanted to ask her a question as she worked the room but was told ahead of time not to.

"They weren't taking questions today. I asked one of her staffers and I was kind of shut down as soon as I started asking," Hill said, adding that he wanted to ask her about the issue of gay teen suicides.

"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for. So I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."

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Filed under: 2012 • Gay rights • Iowa • Michele Bachmann
soundoff (530 Responses)
  1. Primewonk

    " ...since when did it become a crime to help those who want help? Look at transexuals..that's reparative therapy and surgery...all due to beliefs. The article should read "credited for helping many through reparative therapy". "

    Preparative therapy, Ala Exodus, Narth, or Marcus "I'm a pretend unlicensed psychologist" Bachmann, is tell gay folks that they can become straight – mainly by praying away the gay.

    It doesn't work. It's a shame. Try reading the APA's position paper on it.

    December 19, 2011 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  2. Ya'akov

    It doesn't matter one bit whether gays are 51%, 10%, 5% or .02%
    Nor do I understand why anyone thinks it matters whether sexual orientation is genetic or a "choice" or somewhere in between.
    I don't recall reading in my Constitution that civil rights are granted only to minority groups of a certain size or if their defining characteristics are genetic. Hence, we protect religion (which is a choice) and very small ethnic minorities. What is it about sexual orientation that differs from these characteristics?

    December 19, 2011 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  3. BenR

    Being Gay is a disease that should be treated. Proof? If all people were gay, the human race would die and cease to exist. Therego, a disease. Use your common-sense gay lovers. This doesn't mean we should discriminate. We should love all people equally while recognizing that like diabetes, and cancer, some people have a disease that needs to be treated.

    December 19, 2011 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
  4. Rick

    Hah, what is the point of showing up and not taking questions? Absurd. Though in the case of a mindless bimbo like Bachmann I guess it does make sense. That said, what "facts" do these clowns have re: gay population? What scientific research can they quote? Any? No, I didn't think so. Though considering Michelle is married to a clearly gay man I'm surprised they aren't a little more accepting of the whole thing.

    December 19, 2011 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  5. ted

    Good plan there Bachmann. Don't open yourself to any questions from that pesky gotcha media or HORRORs potential voters. That's a great way to isolate yourself in your own propaganda and delusional fanaticism that you could even be considered for any position bigger than sewer commissioner. As always, there is but one clear choice in 2012

    Obama/Biden 2012

    December 19, 2011 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  6. Thomas

    God Save the Queen .

    December 19, 2011 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
  7. allens

    forget her, she is done. even the most die hard bachmann fans see what she is (and is not). bad enough she was elected to any office, let alone the president.

    December 19, 2011 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
  8. Rick

    Palin' I mean Bachmann's response when asked where she got her gay population facts......"Someone on the plane told me"

    December 19, 2011 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  9. DeeNYC

    Wow, it's shocking enough that people still are so backwards that they don't believe things like gay is a choice and whatnot, but so many are actually in office and this one wants to run for President!!
    Palin also took a "no questions" approach to campaigning, it was to prevent people from realizing how stupid she was. Bachmann is taking the same approach but she should have stuck to it. She opened her mouth and look what came out.

    December 19, 2011 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
  10. Rick

    Gays are just a myth perpetuated by anchor babies who became retarded via HPV inoculation right Michelle?

    December 19, 2011 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
  11. Selfish Shellfish

    Little Miss "HPV vaccine makes you retarded" does not let the facts get in the way of her beliefs.

    She'll never be a serious contender for President. Never.

    December 19, 2011 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
  12. MsMHS

    She is entitled to believe what she wants. Out of a class of 124 students, none are gay; in another class of 122 one is gay. That's my answer. I have no friends with gay children; I know of a few people with gay children. Out of my family of over 100 persons, none are gay. Those are my facts.

    December 19, 2011 11:59 am at 11:59 am |
  13. Mike P

    Bachmann is right. Kinsey's study group included prison inmate populations, where men who do men are way more common than in the mainstream population. Kinsey was out to push social boundaries, not accurately report where the boundaries lay at that time. And let's face it, if a behavior is wrong, it's wrong no matter what percentage of the population is internally influenced to engage in it.

    December 19, 2011 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  14. John Holmes

    Bachmann is America's version of President Ahmadinejad of Iran – very religious and thinks that being gay is a myth. Neither should hold public office. As a republican, I wish she would go back to being a "job creator" in Minnesota and drop out of the presidential race already. She is polling around 1%....the same as Mickey Mouse. Ever noticed she starts off each sentence with "As a Job Creator..." or "As a Corporate Tax Attorney...."

    December 19, 2011 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  15. Dave

    I'm surprised that the Bachmanns have time to debunk the Kinsey Report indicating "It's been a myth for many years" given that they are also debunking the Darwin Reort indicating "It's been a myth for many years"

    December 19, 2011 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  16. CarrotCakeMan

    Readers who would like to see the scientific evidence for why anti-gay posters are so obsessed with what they IMAGINE same gender couples do in private should Google "Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies."

    December 19, 2011 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  17. The Jackdaw

    Bachmann doesn’t answer questions because she doesn’t have any answers. This woman is dumber than Palin. I didn't think it was possible. This woman is a poster child for the dangers of poor education in America.

    December 19, 2011 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  18. Liz

    Rod C. Venger- Fascinating that this "gay-friendly Iowan" masqueraded as a Bachmann supporter. Ya think it was all a setup, from the question to this article?
    If you really read the article, you would have read this woman admitted to being a democrat. Not a set up, just a voter wanting some answers.
    I hardly think taking questions from just one side of the voting public is democratic...but THAT certainly seems like a set up, generally, than this one woman wanting to ask a question is.

    December 19, 2011 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  19. McCain-in-4

    Guess which issue First Hubby will pursue...

    December 19, 2011 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  20. Nunya

    First, there are legitimate reasons to question some of the specific numbers in the Kinsey report. Serious well-meaning scientists have done so for years.

    Second, it doesn't matter whether the specific numbers are a bit different than what were in the Kinsey report. Whether it's 10%, 20%, or 2%, people in that slice of the population continue to be human just like the ones who aren't, and therefore should be treated fairly and consistently with everyone else. Stop letting politicians and zealots draw you into inane debates about whether it's one number or another and stick to the core issues involved.

    December 19, 2011 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  21. Zeflik

    Kinsey's report major flaw was its sampling method. So, in fact, it could have overstimated the number og gays in society. Current estimates vary from 4% to 10%. However just because gays constitute a small majority does not mean that they should be danied fundamental right under the US Constitution or the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Bachmann's argument is that they should be denied thses rights.

    December 19, 2011 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  22. tstorm

    Why this woman bothers with a topic so irrelevant, especially considering her own husband is gay, is beyond me. It just shows how bigoted the conservatives still are. !

    December 19, 2011 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  23. keith A. sillsbury

    bachmann must have ate Chinese and is taking advice from her fortune cookie. " Say nothing and appear smart rather than to open mouth and remove all doubt. CONFUCIUS.

    December 19, 2011 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  24. Michael B

    This is the modus operandi of the religious reich: Call peer reviewed, empirical evidenced, scientific data a "myth", then go around with your buybull, which is in fact a myth, and promote it as fact. The people who support the Bachmann's and their ilk are anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti-reality, anti-logic, anti-human and simply, UNAMERICAN.

    December 19, 2011 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  25. KCMO

    Not to worry! In a few days she pass into obscurity right along with Palin. She'll write a book, make some money and probably end up a pundit on FOX News during the up-coming election cycle.

    December 19, 2011 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
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