Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report
December 18th, 2011
06:45 PM ET
6 years ago

Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report

Clarion, Iowa (CNN) - Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann continued her super-charged bus tour across Iowa Sunday, attending several more events to shake hands and sign autographs.

Her events have been largely of the meet-and-greet variety - get in and out as fast as she can. The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving, and that generally applies to both the media and to Iowa voters.

But at her stop at a north central Iowa Pizza Ranch restaurant, she and her husband Marcus were met with a woman wearing a Bachmann sticker who was holding a sign that read: "Gay-friendly Iowan."

"I was wondering if you would sign my sign?" the woman wearing the sticker, who identified herself as Kathy Schnell, asked.

"Gay-friendly Iowan?" Bachmann asked with a small laugh as she signed her name.

Schnell thanked her and followed it with a question that, in reality, was more of a comment.

"I wonder if you're aware that 10% of the population is gay. And if you have 28 children, then 2.8 of those kids are very likely gay."

The congresswoman, within definite earshot as she hovered over Schnell, at first seemed to avoid the question, trying to say "hello" to someone new.

Schnell turned to her friend and said, "She's not listening to me."

Bachmann must have heard that because she then turned back.

"Well, that's according to the Kinsey Report," the candidate replied.

Dr. Alfred Kinsey is best known for conducting interviews with thousands of individuals and publishing his findings in books on human sexual behavior during the 1940s and '50s.

Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting "reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in.

"Your facts are wrong," he said.

"That's not valid?" Schnell asked back.

"No it isn't," Michele Bachmann said. Her husband added, "No, it's not at all. It's been a myth for many years."

The presidential hopeful then moved to the next table. Schnell pulled off her Bachmann sticker.

Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington.

Asked if she was surprised Bachmann signed her poster, Schnell said no.

"I think she wants to be a very nice person," Schnell said. "She's adorable. But I just don't think she should be our president."

Schnell wasn't the only one in the room passionate about gay rights. A handful of college students were also on hand in the restaurant at the time, but did not try to raise a question. After the event, however, the group stood outside waving rainbow flags, a common symbol of gay rights support.

Quentin Hill, an 18-year-old student at the University of Iowa, said he wanted to ask her a question as she worked the room but was told ahead of time not to.

"They weren't taking questions today. I asked one of her staffers and I was kind of shut down as soon as I started asking," Hill said, adding that he wanted to ask her about the issue of gay teen suicides.

"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for. So I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."

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Filed under: 2012 • Gay rights • Iowa • Michele Bachmann
soundoff (530 Responses)
  1. deecal

    Bachmann and the Republiican candidates are so backwards in their social beliefs its truly unbelievable and that makes me not want to vote for any of them (except maybe Ron Paul) but what is the other alternative?? Obama who will drive this country broke, give everything and more to illegals, and give every loser a welfare check or SSI benefits. There is nowhere good to turn !!

    December 19, 2011 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  2. Lindalou

    Does she really seriously think she has a chance??? What a waste of time and money. Feed the hungry Ms. us all a favor.

    December 19, 2011 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  3. Fred

    In this instance Rep. Bachmann is correct. The Kinsey Report has not been verified by additional research. At most, large, randomized studies show homosexuality rates at no more than 3% (and most are around 1%). Not that Wikipedia is that great of a source but read the Wikipedia entry about the Kinsey Report. What that entry is missing however, is the research (which I have read) showing homosexuality rates are much much lower than Kinsey reported. Just because you do not like Rep. Bachmann doesn't mean she is incorrect. And no, I would not vote for her.

    December 19, 2011 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  4. Kinsey

    Palin's handlers also instituted that she not answer any questions during campaign appearances. It wasnt for speed. It was because she was ignorant. Sounds familiar. Bachmann boasted that Cain's supporters were flocking to her. Obviously the numbers are going in the opposite direction. Drop out now Michele. In this holiday season, Republicans must remember "Separation of Church and State" and really what's most important. The person who's birthday they celebrate on December 25 was most likely a Democrat!!!

    December 19, 2011 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  5. nick tex

    That kinsey stat is wrong its more like 2-3%. I am gay and have heard it for a long time. His survey methods were seriously lacking. Much of his research dealt with criminals and sexual preditors.

    December 19, 2011 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
  6. Joyce

    The fact is, the Kinsey reports are out of date; they were written in the late 40s and early 50s. Even if you just google the question, you will find a range of answers, with more recent survey's indicating the number is more around 5%.

    I'm not sure what difference it makes anyway, as the issue is more about equal rights than it is how many people are entitled to them. Everyone is.

    December 19, 2011 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  7. Robin Bray

    Could we please see Bachman's peer reviewed journal published research findings. Otherwise she is just spouting pure B.S. She and her husband constantly spout off their views with no valid research to back it up. There is nothing scientific behind any of their work.

    December 19, 2011 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  8. JohnW

    Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies. Oh wait, yes I will.

    December 19, 2011 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  9. Legalize Industrial Hemp

    I think Ms Bachmann wants a nice long break. She looks stressed. It is hard work trying to ruin the country.

    December 19, 2011 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  10. Pam from Iowa

    She can't take questions because she lacks the intelligence to answer anything she has not prepped for!
    And as far as the Kinsey Report, what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING????

    December 19, 2011 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  11. Charles

    There have been several independent studies from various sources that show the gay percentage is less than 5%.
    IIn one study, a large group of woman were observed for over 5 years (before, during and after college).
    Of the woman that stated they were gay, over 50% of them stopped being gay by the end of the study, with almost all of those citing they were 'just in a phase'.

    I know several people in the mental health field and all of them have said 99% of the homosexual patients they treat were sexually abused.
    This has also been scientifically studied and proven.
    For this reason, I will never, or would never, harass or belittle someone for being gay. They've suffered enough.
    Just let them live their lives and be happy. That's all anyone can ask.

    December 19, 2011 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
  12. Thor

    It's not that Republicans or Democrats don't like "gay" people; it's that they don't think they should be granted special rights. Additionally, Politicians don't ever want the perception that it's ok to actively make life tougher for the "gay" people, that would be descrimination. But.... you cannot force someone to like broccolli when they don't. You can't force a horse to drink more water, when it does not want to. In the same way, you can't force the American population to like or dislike non-gays or gays. We all know that gay people have a place in our society as normal people... Just so long as the dark greens should sit in the back of the bus and light greens sit in the front.

    December 19, 2011 12:37 pm at 12:37 pm |
  13. Johnson

    The Republicans have made a mockery of our goverment and country. Bachmann and her Republican peers are playing the American people for stupid and some people actually believe this crap.

    Obama 2012

    December 19, 2011 12:39 pm at 12:39 pm |
  14. doug

    "The person who's birthday they celebrate on December 25 was most likely a Democrat!!!"

    Jesus never hated anyone and since hate is only found in Democrats not Republicans, he is certainly no Democrat. Witness the behavior that goes on in the bluest parts of America, Jesus would never have a total disregard for human life as most Democrats do. Jesus would not support mobsters, he wouldn't endorse a president who calls those who simply disagree with him the enemy and a vice president who calls them terrorists.

    December 19, 2011 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  15. Observer

    Get used to "not answering questions" because that will be her m.o. if she makes it into office too. She will answer questions from those who already agree with her, but thats all. Anyone see the youtube vid of her campaigning and taking questions from high school students about gay marriage and gay rights? Watching someone try to spin and candy-coat bigotry is really quite the spectacle, and she was ON!!! A few women asked her if she thought gays should have the right to marry, and of course she didn't just say "No" (which is actually a shame because it would really save her some time on the campaign trail). What she said was that she believes in equal rights under the law for all sexual orientations, mmmmm, well played there. But the young woman retorted with something like, " Since the laws right now are NOT equal for all orientations would you try to fight for those rights?" Her answer was priceless, an absolute tapestry of B.S., woven with all the usual transparent ignorance of a Bible-thumping Repub. I can't even really paraphrase or even sum it all up, because there was nothing to sum up. She talked for a solid 2 minutes and said nothing. She could've saved even more time and just said, "Equal rights– to a point, but there's a line. The law says no and I won't change the law." Is this not Michelle Bachmann's point?

    She thinks gays should have some rights, but not all the rights of the majority. Hey I learned about something JUST LIKE THAT in history class, what was it called... can't quite remember... oh yeah, SLAVERY! After slavery was ended black people still couldn't VOTE until decades later. Well now, it isn't ILLEGAL to be gay (Bachmann isn't in office yet), but gays still don't have the same civil rights. Slavery and sexual discrimination are too VERY different things, I only draw the comparison in principle. But I thought we realized that we were all just people a long time ago. Apparently not.

    Bachmann followers, didn't you ever have a gay friend? A gay acquaintance even? A gay family member? Haven't you met a man who was obviously a woman stuck in a man's body? Haven't you seen enough examples in school or your adult life of hatred toward gays? Don't you see the news stories about gay high school students committing suicide because of how socially ostracized they are? Don't you see the mental, physical, and psychological damage being done? Do you want to perpetuate this US vs THEM dynamic? Is this in any way helpful to anyone or a progressive step for our country?

    Funny thing is, a lot of wing-nut, anti-gay Jesus-ey Repubs think that they are the uber-patriots, the true Americans. I guess we should change the Statue of Liberty so it says, "Bring me your poor, your tired, etc..... but don't bring any gay people." Ahhhh now doesn't that have the sweet sound of American liberty and tolerance? Oh... wait

    VOTE NOBODY in 2012
    Change will only come from the people

    December 19, 2011 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  16. Henry

    A campaign is dead when it stops taking questions.

    December 19, 2011 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  17. A Moderate

    I'm not sure what the percentage of our population is gay. Indeed, I could care less. My point is they are people. Those that are citizens are citizens. Citizens are (should be) ALL covered by the same constitutional rights. As a married man (42 years) I cannot understand why anyone would feel their marriage was threatened by this issue. As an agnostic I cannot understand why anyone would believe that you can pray away gay.

    December 19, 2011 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  18. ThinkAgain

    @Doug: "hate is only found in Democrats not Republicans,"

    Wow, you really are deluded! You suffer greatly from projection and transference, incapable of accepting the ugly truth about Republicans and instead attributing it to Democrats. Your posts would be amusing if they weren't so pathetic.

    December 19, 2011 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
  19. ThinkAgain

    Doug says Jesus was not a Democrat.

    Matthew 25:40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

    Sounds like a Democrat to me!

    December 19, 2011 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  20. doug

    It is not about gay rights, as Republicans support them, it is about taking away ones religious rights, as the Democrats want to force all churches not Islamic to marry gays with it being illegal for them to deny based upon their religious principles. Side with freedom for all, vote Republican thank you.

    December 19, 2011 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  21. rich

    geez, is she still running? well, i guess she has to spend all those funds she raised back when she was the frontrunner for 15 minutes.

    December 19, 2011 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  22. ThinkAgain

    Bachmann is just trying to build name recognition, so when she finally quits, she'll be able to negotiate a better price for her "expertise."

    December 19, 2011 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  23. ric

    Hasn't she ever heard of Anita Bryant? Well maybe she hasn't. Bryant's career got flushed down the toliet when she went on an anti gay crusade.

    December 19, 2011 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  24. Joe Rioux

    @Bill Botwin: I'm all for gay rights and whatnot, but the decades' old Kinsey study is far from the gold standard anymore. A *lot* of subsequent research has been done that puts the number as low as 2%. The point is that the number quoted by the "gay friendly Iowan" is far from definitive. Bachmann in this case (unfortunately) makes a good point.

    December 19, 2011 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  25. julie

    @Alex December 18, 2011 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm
    "Reality is that both the pro-gay lobby and the anti-gay lobby are equally guilty of trying to impose their beliefs on the majority that just doesn't care. Just live and let live."

    Really? Were the suffragettes just trying to push their agenda? Was the civil rights movement just pushing their agenda? "Live and let live" only works when there is an acceptance of equality among all people. I'd say that one agenda is most definitely pushing the agenda of the other here.

    December 19, 2011 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
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