Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report
December 18th, 2011
06:45 PM ET
3 years ago

Bachmann pauses in Iowa tour to talk 'myth' of Kinsey Report

Clarion, Iowa (CNN) - Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann continued her super-charged bus tour across Iowa Sunday, attending several more events to shake hands and sign autographs.

Her events have been largely of the meet-and-greet variety - get in and out as fast as she can. The campaign has instituted a "no questions" policy at a majority of her stops this weekend to keep things moving, and that generally applies to both the media and to Iowa voters.

But at her stop at a north central Iowa Pizza Ranch restaurant, she and her husband Marcus were met with a woman wearing a Bachmann sticker who was holding a sign that read: "Gay-friendly Iowan."

"I was wondering if you would sign my sign?" the woman wearing the sticker, who identified herself as Kathy Schnell, asked.

"Gay-friendly Iowan?" Bachmann asked with a small laugh as she signed her name.

Schnell thanked her and followed it with a question that, in reality, was more of a comment.

"I wonder if you're aware that 10% of the population is gay. And if you have 28 children, then 2.8 of those kids are very likely gay."

The congresswoman, within definite earshot as she hovered over Schnell, at first seemed to avoid the question, trying to say "hello" to someone new.

Schnell turned to her friend and said, "She's not listening to me."

Bachmann must have heard that because she then turned back.

"Well, that's according to the Kinsey Report," the candidate replied.

Dr. Alfred Kinsey is best known for conducting interviews with thousands of individuals and publishing his findings in books on human sexual behavior during the 1940s and '50s.

Bachmann's husband, who runs a clinic in their district in Minnesota that has long been accused of conducting "reparative therapy" by trying to help gay individuals become straight, then chimed in.

"Your facts are wrong," he said.

"That's not valid?" Schnell asked back.

"No it isn't," Michele Bachmann said. Her husband added, "No, it's not at all. It's been a myth for many years."

The presidential hopeful then moved to the next table. Schnell pulled off her Bachmann sticker.

Schnell later told CNN she is a Democrat who is not happy with the current Democratic administration and the Democrats in Washington.

Asked if she was surprised Bachmann signed her poster, Schnell said no.

"I think she wants to be a very nice person," Schnell said. "She's adorable. But I just don't think she should be our president."

Schnell wasn't the only one in the room passionate about gay rights. A handful of college students were also on hand in the restaurant at the time, but did not try to raise a question. After the event, however, the group stood outside waving rainbow flags, a common symbol of gay rights support.

Quentin Hill, an 18-year-old student at the University of Iowa, said he wanted to ask her a question as she worked the room but was told ahead of time not to.

"They weren't taking questions today. I asked one of her staffers and I was kind of shut down as soon as I started asking," Hill said, adding that he wanted to ask her about the issue of gay teen suicides.

"I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

"If you want my vote, I want to know what you stand for. So I think it's unfortunate that she comes and shakes hands and signs some signs and thinks she's going to get votes out of that."

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Filed under: 2012 • Gay rights • Iowa • Michele Bachmann
soundoff (530 Responses)
  1. Uthor

    Let her receed into nothingness. Her run was just bland ambition.

    December 18, 2011 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm |
  2. Lanai

    This woman is incompatible with science and facts.

    December 18, 2011 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm |
  3. Christine

    Why are we criticizing Bachmann for stating that Kinsey's figures are a myth? If you look at his research, there are a ton of questionable methods that he used which resulted in questionable "statistics". Why should anyone base policy on unreliable data?

    December 18, 2011 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm |
  4. Steven Colo

    You gotta be kidding. She's so out of touch that she's claiming that a 60 year old study is the most recent data, and that it's wrong?

    Amazing that her husband is considered an authority in the field if they have no clue.

    December 18, 2011 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm |
  5. Tim

    I'm very pro-gay-rights, and Bachmann is right. Every rational person knows that Kinsey is garbage and the 10% figure is way high. You don't need to embrace stupidity like Kinsey to also believe that gays should have equal rights. Just because Bachmann is an idiot doesn't mean she's automatically wrong about everything. Embrace truth, not dogma.

    December 18, 2011 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm |
  6. anthony78

    "I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

    BACHMAN GOT OWNED.

    December 18, 2011 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm |
  7. Dave A

    Strange how republicans are so afraid of GAY! That's because they are such good little Christians
    And practice NON JUDGEMENT.

    December 18, 2011 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm |
  8. Inrealityhere

    "I think if you want to be president of the United States, first of all you have to realize that you are representing all Americans including gay Americans and secondly you should be able to answer questions," Hill said.

    Likewise, Hill needs to realize representing all Americans means even those who may disagree with him on certain issues and may give answers he's not happy with. Just like the president who now represents all Americans.

    December 18, 2011 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm |
  9. dennis

    Great Deal CNN, thanks for another article to invite your gang of Left Wing Liberal Haters to unleash another round of mean postings calling Bachmann names, lambasting Republicans with hate speech, making up lies about Bush, run down Christians, and calling for a Godless Nation. But you always have real nice things to say about Muslims, and never even mention the poor 3000 people killed in New York by Islamic Followers, we'd call Terrorist, but you won't. Keep up the Democrat Propaganda Machine CNN you're so good at it!

    December 18, 2011 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm |
  10. Joshua Ludd

    Its a myth? What does Bachmann base her assertion on? Kinsey did real statistical research.. what has Bachmann got? More of the stuff she reads and believes uncritically on the internet?

    December 18, 2011 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm |
  11. zimbot

    Facts apparently do not matter to Bachmann. But you have to admit, at least she's consistent in this respect.

    December 18, 2011 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm |
  12. Bob

    Gays and lesbians deserve equal treatments across the board, but the fact of the matter is that the "10%" figure is wrong. 1 in 10 people are gay? This is just not the case.

    The Kinsey Report was important for a lot of reasons, but science just doesn't rely on ages-old surveys to answer it's questions. New data is needed, and constantly needs to be revised. Gays and lesbians do need to stand up and not be afraid to know that they are really not "10%" of the population.

    The only real problem I have with writing this here is that I will look like I support the bigot, Ms. Bachmann, which I do not. I support her 0%, and that number is precise.

    December 18, 2011 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm |
  13. My Name is "Bubba"

    Can't believe I clicked on this "story" – is it a story? What's the point? Why is Bachmann still on the list of serious GOP contenders?

    December 18, 2011 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm |
  14. saftgek

    The conduct of Rep. Bachmann, her husband, and her staff punctuate what astute, informed voters have known all along: Rep. Bachmann is wholly unfut for any level of public service – period!

    A large number of MN voters are likely experiencing "Buyers' Remorse!" Such are the experiences of voters who do not inform themselves BEFORE casting their votes (e.g., GWB, Richard Nixon, ad nauseum).

    The GOP has not one candidate (capable of winning the general election) that has what it takes to continue President Obama's efforts. It's truly amazing how there are so many on the Right and Ultra-Right who are so full of hatred toward our President, they'll cut off their collective noses to spite their faces.

    The truth is regarding the past 3 years' challenges: the GOP "leadership" declared war on Barack Obama and the people of the USA on Election Day 2008. The GOP cares not one whit about our coutnry and its people. They DO care about their bigotry, rage, elitism, arrogance, and – above all else – power!

    December 18, 2011 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm |
  15. todd

    Kathy, I know it doesn't really help but know that there are Republicans that don't hate those of us who are gay. Jon Huntsman has said he will not sign the pledge. I'm in the same situation as you, I really do not want to vote for Obama but the Republican nominees give me no choice. I WILL VOTE OBAMA!!!

    December 18, 2011 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm |
  16. bobby frank

    She doesn't care about anyone that is Gay. They really just want you to shut up and go away. Bachman's are out of touch with gay people which is very unfortunate that they would turn there backs to children who are gay. There are alot of gay teens that think of suicide because of what they have to face everyday. The Bachman's have a deaf ear toward gay teens which is interesting since they say they are Christians.

    December 18, 2011 11:19 pm at 11:19 pm |
  17. Steve

    While its true the Kinseyy statistics have been shown to be flawed (he collected data in a way that allowed bias... most of it holds up to rigorous interpretation today), The bulk of his work continues to hold value. The fact that no other study exists to bolster or completely refute the work is a testament to the homophobic far right which ms Bachmann represents. Her clearly poofy husband is clear evidence of denial of basic sexuality. But seeing Ms Bachmann attempt to talk science is much akin to watching a monkey with a football.

    December 18, 2011 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm |
  18. ruemorgue

    Bachmann is correct. The 10 percent number reported by Kinsey has been known for decades to be incorrect. His sampling was totally invalid. His error was very simple Imagine if you measure the height of all NBA players and it comes out to 6 feet 6 inches. Now you say the average height of all American males is 6 ft 6 inches. Obviously, the conclusion is invalid. Kinsey commited a similar error. His sampling was skewed. The current number is more like 1 percent.

    December 18, 2011 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm |
  19. Flgeeman

    Bachmann isn't qualified to be President. She is wasting her time and peoples money.

    December 18, 2011 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm |
  20. Pat in IL

    It really doesn't matter how she does or doesn't answer questions, because she really isn't in the running. Right now she is just wasting other people's' money with her so-called campaign, and she will need to drop out soon.

    December 18, 2011 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm |
  21. One Americans Rant

    Whatever the correct percentage is, I doubt that Michele and Marcus can "cure all of them.

    December 18, 2011 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm |
  22. Terry

    I feel sorry for this woman. Clearly, she is dumber than a box of rocks.

    December 18, 2011 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm |
  23. gwats

    I'd tend to believe in the research of trained professionals vs. Michelle 'Moonbeam' any day in the week. Michelle, why haven't you dropped out of the race yet? You don't have a chance in hell of winning the nomination, much less being a 'player' when the winner emerges. You're a Republican who can't even be trusted to represent the interests of the people who elected you.

    December 18, 2011 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm |
  24. Michael Ryan

    What a horribly unflattering photo above – how many shots of an attractive woman did you have to shift through to find one that bad?

    December 18, 2011 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm |
  25. Justin H

    When a candidate needs handlers to ensure they don't face any tough questioning unprepared, it's a sure sign the person is not fit for elected office.

    December 18, 2011 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm |
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