Occupy vs. Ron Paul
December 29th, 2011
12:37 PM ET
3 years ago

Occupy vs. Ron Paul

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - Five members of the Occupy the Caucus movement in Des Moines Iowa were arrested this morning while blockading the entrance to Ron Paul's campaign headquarters.

Using their iconic mic-check speaking style, the protestors spoke out against Ron Paul's campaign pledge to close the Environmental Protection Agency if elected.

Sitting arm in arm, the members of the Occupy movement chanted; "We are fighting for the future generations. In order to live we need clean air, clean water, and safe food. Don't dismantle the EPA. We won't allow this business to open before our demands are met."

Police gave the protestors the opportunity to move from the private entrance to the public sidewalk twenty feet away. Some complied, but five refused to move and were arrested.

Many of the occupy demonstrators claimed sympathy, if not outright support for the ideology of Ron Paul, which made this protest especially uncomfortable for both the occupiers and the campaign.

One of the arrested protester's named Clark Davidson claimed to be a Ron Paul precinct captain as he was led away in handcuffs.

"I don't believe with Ron Paul on every single issue...I came to stand with my sisters. I came to address that with the campaign and I just got arrested," Davidson said.

No one from the Paul Campaign was immediately available for comment.


Filed under: 2012 • Iowa • Occupy Wall Street • Ron Paul
soundoff (164 Responses)
  1. Truth and Nothing But the Truth

    Vic - Just think how ineffective the EPA is
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    I would disagree. They are VERY effective when it comes to destroying jobs and regulating us all into submission. The gases we all exhale need to be regulated??? Honestly, enough is enough. EPA = Government Gone Wild.

    December 29, 2011 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  2. Cindy

    I really wish these people would get their act together. No where at no time has Ron Paul said he wanted to totally abolish the EPA. Rein it in – YES. They are a buraucratic nightmare.

    December 29, 2011 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  3. Rudy NYC

    Livefree88 wrote:

    Ron Paul ideology puts the environmental policy under state control where it should be. The Libertarian principle is "do no harm".
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    Paul has given libertarianism an extreme makeover. Doing away with the EPA and leaving it up to the states is as short-sighted as you can get. For example, many towns along the Mississippi river get their drinking water from the river at water purification plants. These plants are designed to remove *known* impurities. The river crosses and touches many states.

    Suppose that some company in Wisconsin begins dumping polluted waste into river. Wisconsin laws granted the company a variance because they are right on the southern border, and all of the waste flows south. People in Iowa, Illinois, Missouri and other states object to it, because it is killling people. President Ron Paul refuses to step in and mediate the matter claiming that is a "states rights" matter.

    Now what? The result is at best anarchy, or civil war between the states.

    December 29, 2011 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  4. Fair is Fair

    WDinDallas posed this question:

    "Now do you understand why you are not employed?"
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    Ahhhhh... WD..... surely you understand that they would much rather be profesional protesters and live in their parent's basements that be productive citizens, don't you?

    December 29, 2011 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
  5. Woman In California

    MR56

    Who here has never in their life mad a derogatory slur against another group? Please raise your hands. Anybody? Somebody? That's what I thought. Do you think the owner of every publication printed actually reads every page? If you do your a fool. When you run a business you hire people and hope they use good judgment when making choices. Just like a cook spitting in your food, the choice of one person can tarnish the reputation of everyone else.

    Ron Paul WAS responsible for these articles. If you are naive enough to believe he NEVER read any of these disturbing articles BEFORE they left his presence you are indeed NOT capable of voting for a president. Most of us want a president who will read EVERYTHING carefully BEFORE he acts. That man is NOT Ron Paul.

    December 29, 2011 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |
  6. anagram_kid

    Cole wrote – “…Instead of a multi-million dollar bureaucracy with tens of thousands of pages of laws and loopholes, have a simple law that prevents any person or corporation from polluting your property.”

    So how do you think an individual brining charges or law suits against a company will work out? Who will local law enforcement arrest? How will people know that their property was polluted and who polluted it? And most importantly how will this approach prevent pollution? If you think people or corporations will police themselves you have fallen for the great flaw in Libertarianism – that given more freedom, people will become more responsible.

    December 29, 2011 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  7. Rudy NYC

    Truth somebody wrote:

    I would disagree. They are VERY effective when it comes to destroying jobs and regulating us all into submission. The gases we all exhale need to be regulated???
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    Of course you would say something like that. Half of the tens of thousands of jobs that conservatives claim would result from the XL Pipeline would be because of environmental regulations. Most, if not all, of the permanent jobs arising from the pipeline being put into service would be because of environmental regulations.

    There are entire segments of the manufacturing and service industries in this country who exist for no other reason than because of environmental and workplace regulations. Don't believe me? If you are at work, tell me what is that red thing on the wall near the exit door. It is part of the fire alarm system. Ever heard of companies like ADT or TYCO? They would not exist without regulations.

    December 29, 2011 02:30 pm at 2:30 pm |
  8. billgme

    Occupiers need to take a bath and get a job. Come up with some personal responsibility! What has happened to the American work ethic? It's the gimme generation!!!!

    December 29, 2011 02:34 pm at 2:34 pm |
  9. Brad76

    Occupy is nothing but a circus clown show now. Great work at marginalizing yourselves!

    December 29, 2011 02:35 pm at 2:35 pm |
  10. Eli

    The Occupy Movement: a movement for white trust fund kids.

    December 29, 2011 02:37 pm at 2:37 pm |
  11. nrog

    NadePaulKuciGravMcKi said: "It is not extremist to ask questions about Building # 7"

    It is not extremist, but it is willful ignorance. That should not be a source of pride.

    December 29, 2011 02:38 pm at 2:38 pm |
  12. Jason

    Even Ron Paul hippies know that there isn't some magical Federal fan that blows our pollution to N. Korea. The leaders of the states will work together on the environment as they do now. Something may even actually get accomplished with the Feds's special interests out of the way.

    Ron Paul & Jon Huntsman 2012.

    December 29, 2011 02:39 pm at 2:39 pm |
  13. Rudy NYC

    MR56 wrote:

    When you run a business you hire people and hope they use good judgment when making choices. Just like a cook spitting in your food, the choice of one person can tarnish the reputation of everyone else.
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    But, when you ignoring the spitting, and keep that cook on your payroll....doesn't that mean that you condone the actions? Or at the very least are incompetent to run your own business? No matter how try to clean it up, you cannot. Which is exactly why Ron Paul has avoided the national media for going on three days now.

    December 29, 2011 02:40 pm at 2:40 pm |
  14. ROMNEYLMAO

    The EPA forces long-established business to go bankrupt to comply with their ridiculous regulations. For example, Fletcher Granite Company in Westford, MA was fined $100,000 for having block granite stored on the ground in a place they'd been storing block granite for, get this, 130 years. Not only does granite come out of the ground, but it remains chemically unchanged throughout the entire process while on the FGC property. The EPA is ludicrous. It deserves to be dismantled and it's employees need to go work for a living.

    December 29, 2011 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  15. Livefree88

    @Rudy NYC To answer our question. A state can still sue the offending company for harming the river. The EPA today does not protect anything. They only create bureaucratic chaos. The EPA did not prevent the BP spill even though there were regulations in place that should have prevented it. The EPA does not check anything...they just audit compliance paperwork. The only time they actually put boots on the grounds is after a disaster has occurred.

    December 29, 2011 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  16. Don

    "Brad76
    Occupy is nothing but a circus clown show now. Great work at marginalizing yourselves!"

    Many people think that would better describe Congressman Paul.

    December 29, 2011 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  17. Truth and Nothing But the Truth

    Rudy NYC - Of course you would say something like that.
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    So do you agree?? EPA have gone much too far in many cases? Come on, I know you eat crow because you've done it many times in the past!

    Rudy NYC - They would not exist without regulations.
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    Yes, thank you very much for the left and Obama's full employment plan. One law = thousands of regulations = thousands of government union bureacrat jobs. Wonderful, we can all stand around issuing each other fines to survive.

    December 29, 2011 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  18. Truth and Nothing But the Truth

    BTW, this kid/woman in the picture sure looks very well dressed. I wish the picture showed all of her. I'm thinking designer jeans, Uggs, Gucci pocketbook. I'm sure mommy and daddy will have her home in time to catch her favorite Thursday night show. I doubt she worries too much about her arrest record when looking for a job since her trust fund will likely be quite large.

    December 29, 2011 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  19. chEzr

    So...only THEY are allowed to have a voice? Get the net.

    December 29, 2011 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  20. Sean

    So what is so wrong about giving the States their own EPA powers? Each state has its own ecological and environmental make-up, and the public workers can be more easily monitored by those that elect them. What is so dangerous about this?

    December 29, 2011 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |
  21. Jake

    After all these months I still have no clue what Occupy Wall Street wants?

    December 29, 2011 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |
  22. EdSantaFe

    You mean Ron Paul the RACIST?

    December 29, 2011 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |
  23. anagram_kid

    Livefree88,
    So you are saying the EPA has not prevented any other oil spills or similar events? Can you prove that?

    December 29, 2011 02:53 pm at 2:53 pm |
  24. T'sah from Virginia

    Wow – when I thought this EARLY campaigning and moving dates up for primaries were going to hurt President Obama – I was wrong!! The more the RIGHT kill each other with the SAME OLD rhetoric and same OLD song, the MORE it helps President Obama.

    All of the candidates from the right are on the same page. The difference between "all of them" are the way they present themselves……….PERIOD!! So when you hear the same CRAP over and over again from the SAME people, every minute, every hour and every day for the past year and a year to come, you tend to drop all of them on the curb. Suddenly, it is realized that President Obama is the ONLY adult in the room!!!

    Obama 2012 because EVERYONE from the RIGHT is the SAME and they are ALL on the WRONG page of history!!!

    December 29, 2011 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
  25. ThinkAgain

    "Come up with some personal responsibility! What has happened to the American work ethic? It's the gimme generation!!!!"

    Many of the occupiers either are unemployed recent college graduates or employed folks who take time out of their workday/on weekends to participate.

    They DO have a work ethic; if you bothered to check it out, you'd realize what they're protesting is the 1% who don't want to create jobs here in the US, but are instead abandoning our country for cheap labor and lack of regulations overseas.

    The folks without the work ethic are the corporations who are too lazy to innovate, revitalize American manufacturing and do their part to help our country. Instead, they're stuck on short-term thinking, concerned only with lining their pockets and the heck with the US and her people which have given them so much.

    December 29, 2011 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
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