Ron Paul: Santorum is 'very liberal'
January 2nd, 2012
01:23 PM ET
2 years ago

Ron Paul: Santorum is 'very liberal'

(CNN) - Ron Paul dinged rival Rick Santorum Monday for being a "very liberal" candidate, saying the former Pennsylvania senator and staunch social conservative voted for too much spending during his time in Congress.

Speaking to CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash before a campaign event with his son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, the White House hopeful said his rival had taken positions counter to true conservative ideas.

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"I mean, have you looked at his record? Go look at his record," Paul said.

He continued: "He spends too much money. He wasn't leading the charge to slash the budgets and vote against big government."

Rand Paul added that Santorum's vote history proved he wasn't a true conservative.

"He voted to double the size of the Department of Education," Rand Paul said. "He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid. Those are not conservative principles. Seventy-seven percent of the American people are opposed to foreign aid and Rick Santorum has voted for it every time it's come down."

Paul also spoke in some of the strongest terms to date about the potential of a third-party bid should he fail to secure the GOP nomination.

"I have no plans in doing that," Paul said. "Tomorrow is a big day. We'll see what happens but I have no intention of doing that, no plans and no desire."

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Filed under: 2012 • Iowa • Rand Paul • Rick Santorum • Ron Paul
soundoff (213 Responses)
  1. Peg - Az

    Now that is one funny headline.

    January 2, 2012 04:59 pm at 4:59 pm |
  2. RT

    The absurdity increases: Santorum is a liberal and Obama is a Kardashian. What's next? Gingrich a cannibal? Perry a Chinese agent? Bachman a high school graduate? It's a weird, wild, wacky world the GOP/TP live in.

    January 2, 2012 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |
  3. RON PAUL = NO MIDDLE CLASS

    True liberals, ie. libertarians, created the Industrial Revolution

    Yes and everything was so rosy
    we had children working in mines and factorys 16 hours a day
    no unemplyment insurance
    you got hurt on the job (no safety either) too bad you cant work you starve
    company stores

    Yes Lets bring back americas Golden past where 75% of all americans lived in poverty and starving to death was a common occurrence

    you love your beliefs so much? Move to Somalia. They have the Freedom you yearn for

    January 2, 2012 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |
  4. The Greedy Old PIgs have declared class war on US!

    "And look where it has gotten us: a larger number of people at or below the poverty line than at any other time with the exception of the great depression era. Big Government does not solve social problems. It only increases them."

    Ah, another low-information rightwing nutjob who doesn't know the difference between causation and correlation. Poverty programs help those in poverty, they do not themselves create poverty. It must be tough going through life without the basic skills needed to reason properly.

    January 2, 2012 05:02 pm at 5:02 pm |
  5. RON PAUL = NO MIDDLE CLASS

    To me it looks like Rand is saying behind his dad

    "Hey Look dad someone let a Minority in here."

    January 2, 2012 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  6. bgj1

    Lifetime American Conservative Union ratings:

    Ginrich 90%
    Santorum 85%
    Paul 84%

    If Santorum is liberal, what does that make Paul?

    January 2, 2012 05:06 pm at 5:06 pm |
  7. Becky-Becky-Stan

    Statism is the real question we have to face. How strong and powerful do you want our federal government to be? You can't have an empire and giant war machine without feeling the jackboot of government on your civil rights, and you can't have the federal government become a cradle to grave nanny state without it stealing your wealth and shutting down the economy with regulation after regulation. Santorum is a statist in almost every sense. People of all stripes are feeling the pain of an expanding, unchecked, liberty-robbing, empire-building federal government. It has become everything our founders feared it might.
    Obama just signed that he can not only assassinate Americans without trial, he can detain them indefinitely with our own military. Only one candidate seems alarmed at this encroaching power. He is detested by the heads of both parties and the media as they have worked so hard to pull us so far off the rails that HE seems outside the "mainstream".

    January 2, 2012 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  8. mark o. worrell

    This is exactly what I am complaining about that is a reason that the current style primaries should be eliminated and we go back to just electing delegates after a few statewide debates broadcast nationally, and then on to the National Conventions. That process has been abrogated by ego driven changes. At the conventions, it used to be that some of Paul's ideas would become part of the Republican platform planks in order for him to ask his delegates to join another more viable candidate to get the needed votes for that other person to become THE candidate. And Vice Presidential offers came out of these negotiations. But the National Convention FORMED the Party Platform. At the end, we knew each candidate and what they stood for. Not any more. A few mavericks like Eugene McCarthy in '68 upset the applecart by pounding it to those entrenched in that old system, and now, within a 40some year period, we have a brand new primary focused differential that is actually inferior to the old one. Platforms don't get formed. Candidates make promises and break them just as quickly. Its become all about money, how much can you raise, and how much can you spend. The recipient of that money is the media, and the primaries and this change has been selfishly altered by and for the media. We are the losers. And men like Paul, who knew if they did well and acquired delegates, their ideas would be integrated into that Party Platform.

    January 2, 2012 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  9. Greg

    "True liberals, ie. libertarians, created the Industrial Revolution

    Yes and everything was so rosy
    we had children working in mines and factorys 16 hours a day
    no unemplyment insurance
    you got hurt on the job (no safety either) too bad you cant work you starve
    company stores

    Yes Lets bring back americas Golden past where 75% of all americans lived in poverty and starving to death was a common occurrence. you love your beliefs so much? Move to Somalia. They have the Freedom you yearn for"

    99% of human beings lived in poverty before the Industrial Revolution. In countries that have become fully industrialized, absolute poverty (living on under $1/day) has been virtually eliminated. You have to compare the results of capitalism (The United States, Western Europe, East Asia) with the results of other systems such as Communism, Feudalism, Monarchy, Fascism, etc. Every other system has lead to widespread poverty and misery for regular people.

    Children working has nothing to do with capitalism. Children worked on farms before the Industrial Revolution. Banning child labor is 100% compatible with capitalism. In fact, the only thing that ever stopped child labor was that America became so incredibly wealthy compared to human history that it became possible for families to meet all of their needs without needing their children to work.

    Somalia is not capitalist. It does not have a functioning rule of law, which was the greatest innovation of Classical Liberalism/Libertarianism. Before classical liberalism, every country was ruled at the whims of all powerful kings or dictators. Classical liberals believe in Laws that must be followed by even the head of state and cannot be changed without a democratic process.

    If you want to move to someone Libertarian here are the top 10 most economically free countries: Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark, the US, Bahrain. And every prosperous country on Earth is largely capitalist (their wealth is created in the private sector).

    January 2, 2012 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  10. WilliamPenn

    Ron Paul is more of a mental case than Lyndon LaRouche EVER was.

    January 2, 2012 05:15 pm at 5:15 pm |
  11. Colin Wright

    To Larry L: 'How about going to Israel's rescue if the Syria situation gets out of control.'

    Why on earth would we want to do that?

    January 2, 2012 05:18 pm at 5:18 pm |
  12. benji

    and Ron Paul is an insane racist. I would rather have a corrupt Santorum than Paul as president anyday.

    January 2, 2012 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  13. Heather K.

    These idiots must feel stupid after talking with Doc. Paul! They try so hard, but they can never make Paul sound crazy when he is the only one speaking any since! Ron Paul 2012!

    January 2, 2012 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  14. Greg

    "Poverty programs help those in poverty, they do not themselves create poverty."

    Poverty programs are totally reasonable as long as you are talking about a limited program to help the truly impoverished while they are looking for work (and prove they are doing so) or if they are severely disabled. We would literally just need one program to do that, and it should be at the state level so that we can see which approach works best.

    But there is no denying that paying people to not work and taking money from people who do (and ESPECIALLY businesses that would otherwise hire more people) is bad for the economy. Poverty programs should be aimed at helping the truly needy transition to work, not providing support for tens of millions of people for decades of their life.

    January 2, 2012 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  15. Xen1313

    Everyone bashing those on welfare and unemployment, think about this logically. You have to have jobs for the unemployed to work, and I'm not talking about minimum wage jobs that are well below the poverty line. When it take 3-4 grown adults living on minimum wage to keep the lights on, the rent paid and food in the belly, there is something drastically wrong with our society. Working full time with no vacation, only nets you 15k. So three people working still only brings in 45k, which is before taxes. That is the problem. Welfare pays a living wage, allowing one person to take care of their family. Also, having a job deficiet by over 8 million kind of doesn't help either. And before bashing businesses for not creating jobs, they need demand for their products to go up before hiring more people, without the demand, there is no justifaction for the creation of the jobs. You want to see a real stimulus, Trickle up economics, give money to the consumer, so that they may spend it, consuming. Trickle down economics only fattened shareholds bank accounts, and got CEO's golden parachutes. Lee Iacocca was the first CEO to recieve the Million dollar bonus from Crysler, back in the late 80's.

    January 2, 2012 05:22 pm at 5:22 pm |
  16. Log Cabin

    I would love to see either of these nutbuckets go up against Obama this fall!

    January 2, 2012 05:22 pm at 5:22 pm |
  17. Dai Alanye

    Ron Paul is a hypocrite, as his vast number of earmarks confirm. He has, in fact, no room to talk about over-spending.

    January 2, 2012 05:22 pm at 5:22 pm |
  18. PrivacyInA9M80

    @James Ruston

    Freedom is not a handout from the government. Slaves had the "freedom" of having their basic needs provided, too.

    Freedom is earning your own income and helping to create jobs for others at the same time. The government cannot create for the less fortunate, only redistribute to them. With Ron Paul as president, we could create more for BOTH rich and poor, and I would help lead that charge.

    January 2, 2012 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  19. max

    There are so few fiscal conservatives in either party that you could count them on 2 hands. NONE of the republican candidates are fiscal conservatives except for Paul.

    January 2, 2012 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  20. Skip

    Ron Paul 2012!

    January 2, 2012 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  21. nickname

    So much hate and ignorance towards the good doctor.
    I fear America is.lost.to those glued to NBC and Fox News programs.
    The repentance of talking point propaganda is...eerie.

    January 2, 2012 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  22. Pete/Ark

    The Pauls are followers of Thomas Malthus. They criticize protecting human health,educating the young,and getting along with the rest of the world. In thier "ideal" universe war,poverty,ignorance,and disease would make us a stronger race. So everybody wants to live through thier version of "survival of the fittest" ?

    January 2, 2012 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  23. Greg

    Yet another person posted that Paul wants to abolish the EPA as if that's a bad thing. The EPA was formed in 1970 to research and advise the President on environmental issues. Since then they have become a regulatory body that is largely unchecked. If they had stuck to their original purpose, they'd be fine. We need environmental regulations, that doesn't mean we need the EPA. Congress is meant to legislate, not to delegate. We didn't vote for the director of the EPA, they have no authority to govern. The same goes for any other independent regulatory agencies. Unless we elect someone, they have no authority to govern.

    January 2, 2012 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  24. Edward Boothee

    Ron Paul belongs in a nut house, not the White House but he would be better than what we have, at least he is not a Communist.

    January 2, 2012 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  25. Eileen

    The worst condemnation of Rick Santorum is giving the Angel in Adoption award to a known pedophile, Jerry Sandusky. Here's a guy who campaigns against gay marriage, but when it comes to a white guy getting caught diddling young children, he claims he doesn't know him personally. If he can't practice due diligence when it comes to awards for pedophiles, how can anyone believe he'll practice due diligence as president?

    January 2, 2012 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
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