Editor's note: Gloria Borger is CNN's chief political analyst, appearing regularly on shows such as "AC360˚" "The Situation Room," "John King, USA" and "State of the Union."
(CNN) - There are plenty of ways to game the upcoming Supreme Court decision on health care reform, and they've all been said: President Obama loses in court, he wins with his base. Or it's a severe blow, potentially fatal. Or Republicans benefit if they win, because they were "right" all along. Or the GOP loses, because it has to figure out what to offer for health care instead.
Supreme court killing indivudual mandate or overturning the law would be a big blow to the Obama Administration. Question if that would energize the base to try to take congress to move toward single payer. Going back to square one would be bad for America. Would be better to fix the law than kill it. We will see.
If we are incapable to create a modern system of general health-care it is an EPIC FAILURE for the people of the USA! To have people go bankrupt and die because of the current system wile “candidates” from the GOP have a smirk on their face is absolute shameful! Those talking about the “exceptionality” of our country make people having taken the trouble to look beyond our borders shake their heads at so much arrogance and willful harm to the public.
Regardless of the outcome, the law is constitutional. So if the SCOTUS overturns it, not only does the President have Willard to run against, but he'll also have an obstructinist, radical Congress and a activist court to run against. That will really get us progressives fired up.
There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional of this law. o.k, Lot of mandates in our daily lives. At least this is good one.
PS: That Broccoli analogy is idiotic.
The GOP does not have an alternative plan besides "cross state lines" where it is supposedly cheaper. That idea absurdly ridiculous and an insult to anyone who is more than half brain dead. Here's why I say that.
Conservatives want you to think that buying health insurance is like buying broccoli at the vegetable market. If it costs less at another market, then you can bo there and buy it. Sounds reasonable, right? Yup, if you're buying broccoli. The selling price of broccoli is based on the cost it takes grow it and bring it to market. Growers can have different costs, and so they may have higher or lower final prices.
The cost of health insurance isn't based upon the cost of health care. It is based upon the state of your health and your medical history. Whatever price I am offered in one state will be almost the same in any state. The GOP suggestion simply removes the regulation that has so far retarded health insurers from creating multi-state monopolies. Don't forget. The health insurance industry is exempt from anti-trust laws. Did you know that?
It is a real shame when people can no longer take care of themselves. When the Pilgrims came to the New World they had to take care of themselves. A lot of people today think someone else should take care of them. The Politicians sold them a Bill of Goods and people bought it. Here the City and Board of Education is cutting Milllions of Dollars from the Budgets because of the weak Economy. Big Government Programs, such as Obama Care are killing the country. But it's a Gimmie Society. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You get here, you pay there.
I wish I had been arguing the case when the 'broccoli argument' was made. No one is being forced to buy broccoli, but they are being required to *pay* for the vegetables that they do take.
People are required to buy auto insurance if they wish to use their motor vehicle on a public thoroughfare. You don't have to buy any insurance if you drive around your farm, on your private property.
People should be required to have health insurance if they wish to use a public hospital. One can sit at home and use all of the home remedies that you wish. Just have some insurance when you come to a public hospital looking for major medical treatment.
@Marry – EPIC FAILURE is right. Most good people look around to others to see if there are behaviors they can emulate to improve themselves. Successful businesses watch their competitors and businesses in other regions or industries to find new ways of doing things to counter threats and continue to improve. Yet, many on the right think we should never look outside our borders to see if there are ideas we can adopt. That kind of thinking is the height of stupidity fueled by ignorance and arrogance.
Healthcare systems in many other countries deliver better results in a more efficient manner. We cannot allow ourselves to be controlled by the most shortsighted among us. The President is right when he says that things like the Ryan budget are a recipe for a declining America. If we do not learn and grow and invest in our future, we will surely be left behind in a very competitive world.
al most all the pilgrims died ther first year–if it wasnt for the natives giving them free health care and food they would have
@Ray E. – The pilgrims would have all starved to death had the Natives not helped them. Our country was built upon people helping each other. In a small community, it is easy to do directly. In a large nation, the Government takes up much of that role, because it becomes too logistically difficult to accomplish and in a larger society. Also, in a larger society, poverty and hunger can become out-of-sight and out-of-mind – just hide in your gated communities and let other areas go to pot. Selfishness in not an American value or a Christian value, although it does seem to be a Conservative value.
someone needs to school obama on the checks and balances system.he is trying to order the supreme court around like he is some kind of dictator.
Ray E, wrote:
...Here the City and Board of Education is cutting Milllions of Dollars from the Budgets because of the weak Economy. Big Government Programs, such as Obama Care are killing the country. But it's a Gimmie Society. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You get here, you pay there. ...'
WAke up, Ray. They are cutting your local services to make for reduced aid at the state and federal level. They prefer pay for tax cuts to big businesses and the wealthy than: for educating your kids; making sure some is available to put our your house fire; making sure someone responds to your call for help, prefering instead to leave it up to you shoot first, and ask no questions later.
That is uncivlized society, Ray. That is jungle law, dog eat dog, every man for himself. I don't want to live in a world like that. I will stop it from coming to pass by educating people to the reality of what is happening, why it is happening, where it is happening, and most importantly who is doing it.
I blame voters who are too ignorant to think for themselves, and I blame the politicians who use the ignorant voters.
How is the ACA hurting the economy? There has been no spending associated with it at all. Is it taking a bite out of health insurers? Gee, I hope so.
All Government employee have public healthcare insurance payed by tax payer. Bless.
"someone needs to school obama on the checks and balances system.he is trying to order the supreme court around like he is some kind of dictator."
No, not really. Obama's comments were pretty much political bluster. I believe he realizes that the SCOTUS is probably going to shoot this thing down. By using such rhetoric, he's just trying to fire up his base. All politicians do it.
It appears that everything hinges on how partisan we have become in and out of government. This site reflects it. Why is it that during such dire times, when our nation would normally have pulled together in order to speed the "dig-out", why is it that instead we've become callously polarized? And those in government, who have a better view of the "big-picture" and the need for compromise because they knew the results of not doing so,why is it that these people are acting more selfishly, and short-sighted that Joe Everyman? I believe that we've lost our moral compass, and in its' place greed and the quest for power are trying to take permanent residency. We must contiue to fight the urge to succumb to their allure more and more. The have- nots versus the got-more-than-enough-but-see-a-way-to-get-it-all.
Obama 2012. Seriously America.
When the Pilgrims came to the New World they had to take care of themselves
Where'd you study history at?
This is what happens when extremists on both sides, drive the agenda. Nothing gets done, and everyone just defends their inflexible ideas. This time, I see the far right as somewhat more culpable.
As usual, the only "winners" in Washington are the NRA, AIPAC, big oil and other criminal cartels.