June 12th, 2012
06:11 PM ET
6 years ago

All in the family: Bush 41 disagrees with Jeb

(CNN) - A day after former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said his father, George H.W. Bush, wouldn't find a place in today's Republican Party, the former president pushed back at the idea.

"I know what he's getting at, but I don't think it would be difficult," Bush said, while answering a reporter's question on Tuesday in Kennebunkport, Maine.

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While he suggested he had more to say, he was ushered away in his wheelchair by escorts.

His comments came while attending an event for a new HBO documentary about the 41st president, which also marks his 88th birthday.

On Monday, Jeb Bush told a group of editors that both Ronald Reagan and his father would have trouble fitting in with the GOP of 2012.

"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad – they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party – and I don't – as having an orthodoxy that doesn't allow for disagreement, doesn't allow for finding some common ground," Bush said, according to the website Buzzfeed.

Earlier Tuesday, the former governor clarified his remarks on Twitter.

"The point I was making yesterday is this: The political system today is hyperpartisan. Both sides are at fault," Bush wrote, adding in a separate Tweet: "Am reminded today why I rarely read headlines. #ContextIsImportant."

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Filed under: George H.W. Bush • Jeb Bush • Maine
soundoff (150 Responses)
  1. Rudy NYC

    ...proud graduate.... wrote:

    I'm curious... just what is your definition of "middle class"??? Does it include the 50% of the people in this country that contribute ZERO in terms of federal income tax?
    I'm curious....just who do you think put those progressive tax policies in place so that they do not pay any taxes? The most recent round of significant changes were made by Reagan so he could sell his 50% tax cut for the top 1% to the rest of the county. That's who. Your own Republican god incarnate se that up. Don't you realize whay you sound like? Or even care?

    June 13, 2012 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  2. toby

    This is the top story for 3 days on the Ticker? Hmmmmmmmmmmm

    June 13, 2012 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  3. Posting a comment

    @ Rudy NYC – don't kid yourself – they're against those things now!

    June 13, 2012 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  4. Jide


    June 13, 2012 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  5. joejeffrey

    Well what a surprise. Dubya makes a claim utterly unrelated to the facts, because it suits his purposes. He just ignores all the evidence of the past 4 years, and pretends the Tea Party fanatics don't have power. But he's world-class at ignoring evidence and pretending.

    June 13, 2012 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
  6. lloyd roberts

    For once, Jeb is right. True libertarian limited government, non meddling, less intrusive government types; Goldwater, Buckley, Weld, Eisenhower, would have trouble in today's republican party. Once the republicans got southernized and the religious right took over, the true conservatives got their walking papers. And the tea party is no libertarian conservative movement

    June 13, 2012 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  7. ManWithThe1000PoundBrain

    @JohnW Delusion? I know people like you are tired of hearing it, but it was true 3 years ago it's still true now–it is TRUE. I now you just HATE hearing it. We are in this mess because of Republican policies. The global economy was and is impacted and so no matter who has been president the last 3 years, we would still have unemployment above 7%. To the extent that Obama can make a difference, Congress has to cooperate and republicans in Congress would rather run the country into the ground than work with democrats in Congress and the President to get something done to move the nation forward. There is no way that anyone can fix the damage from the republican induced "Great Recession" in three years. Remember too, republicans had control of both chambers of Congress and the White House prior and during onset of the Great Depression. What was different then is the nation learned a lesson. As a result, republicans never again gained control of both chambers and the White House at the same time for the remainder of the 20th century. As a result we experienced the greatest prosperity in the history of the world. Now who is delusional? Deregulation began in earnest under Reagan. As a result, we had our first major bank failure (and bail out) at the end of the 80s since the Depression. Now if there are any attempts to put reasonable regulations in place, people like you cry that it's "too much gubmit intervention!" And so we will suffer the same fate again and again until everyone gets it. Since the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine in the 80s and more recently, the Citizens United decision, it doesn't look too hopeful. People like you will still be brain washed by drinking the gallons of right wing Kool Aid that is being fed to you daily.

    June 13, 2012 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  8. Andy

    Reagan is rolling over in his grave just knowing Boehner and Cantor are in the GOP. He would have no place today. He reached across the isle and did have middle class folks in mind because he came from tough upbringings too. The GOP has taken a very hostile approach with that loony Grover Norquist bringing out a pledge, hoping wealth will trickle down. I don't think Obama's ideas are all super but least he has outlined his plan for the middle class and the GOP has outlined theirs for the wealthy.

    June 13, 2012 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  9. bilk7

    Bush 41 may not realize how extreme his party has become. Jeb Bush is seeing the damage being done to the party and the country by these anti-government obstructionists. More real Republicans like Jeb Bush should speak out and reclaim the party from the far right extremists who are the real RINO's!

    June 13, 2012 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  10. hammer

    If JFK came back from the dead and some one said the dems. are all in for gay marriage would he fit in.Would FDR or Johnson sign a bill letting gays serve in the military?I would say theres presidents from booth parties that would have a hard time fitting in today.

    June 13, 2012 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  11. joe smith

    he was ushered away..now thats' what I call a very informative report..

    June 13, 2012 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
  12. Greenspam

    Jeb Bush tried to sound like a moderate Republican (he's not btw, he's pretty far right), but got shot down by his dad! LOL

    June 13, 2012 01:17 pm at 1:17 pm |
  13. Jill

    I hope Jeb Bush doesn't back down. He at least has the courage to try to bring his party back into the real world from the far right idealogues. Maybe he will be able to do it and if so, four years down the road could look better.

    June 13, 2012 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  14. dah00

    The errors conservatives commonly make about the tax rate is they consider only federal taxes and they report percent of total tax receipts contributed by each income bracket. That's simply wrong. One should consider all taxes paid by an income bracket as a percentage of income: how much in total taxes do you pay, divided by your total income. This total tax rate is rather flat across income brackets. The bottom 40% pay about 20% of income in taxes, and everyone else, INCLUDING the top 1%, pays 30%.

    June 13, 2012 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  15. Susan

    Even in the face of everything we've witnessed from this GOP, Bush 41 still feels the need to lie. Must be in their DNA. Jeb was right about this. I'd vomit if he made it to the White House, but at least here, he was telling the truth. It was probably pretty difficult to do.

    June 13, 2012 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
  16. a prowd gradiate of the fyne libral runned yunyun stuffed skull sistim

    Rudy NYC - ..I'm curious....just who do you think put those progressive tax policies in place so that they do not pay any taxes? The most recent round of significant changes were made by Reagan so he could sell his 50% tax cut for the top 1% to the rest of the county. That's who. Your own Republican god incarnate se that up. Don't you realize whay you sound like? Or even care?
    As usual... Rudy NYC blathers on about 30-35 year old history and refuses to answer the question posed. The usual libtard smoke and mirror show. Doesn't want to talk about the Great Democrat Welfare Society we have been transformed into. Reagan had NOTHING to do with 50% of the people in this country NOT paying federal income tax.

    Now maybe you can drag yourself into the 21st century and actually answer the question that was asked? If not, don't bother posting your smoke and mirror show answers. We get enough of that from Obama.

    June 13, 2012 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |

    Everyone in this country pays taxes in some form or another ..there are sales taxes for everything that is purchased so to say that there is 50% of the populance that doesn't pay taxes is another GOP lie that has been repeated by the likes of Michelle Moonbeam from Minnesota and now taken as gospel by the party.the simple matter is that the divide and conqueur has prevailed to this point as fear wins again.When a party pits people that are struggling and afraid against one another and consider it a winning formula ..it speaks volumes..and thants; sad..it really is sad

    June 13, 2012 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  18. Don

    Unfortunately we all know Jeb is absolutely right. Its a sad comentary on todays GOP

    June 13, 2012 01:29 pm at 1:29 pm |
  19. Rudy NYC

    ....proud graduate....wrote:

    "...As usual... Rudy NYC blathers on about 30-35 year old history and refuses to answer the question posed. The usual libtard smoke and mirror show...."
    Sorry. You can deny it all you want, but Reagan instituted the progressive tax policies that you are ranting about. It as Republicans who sold that idea, "no taxes", back then and still continue to sell that same idea, "No New Taxes", today.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news and burst your bubble, but you really are complaining about conservative fiscal policies, pal. Tax policies put in place by a "great" Republican, Ronald Reagan. In fact, the entire progressive tax structure that we now have was first introduced by Republicans in Congress and signed into law by Pres. Eisenhower, another "great" Republican.

    June 13, 2012 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  20. Less is more.

    They are both right. Under the current direction of the GOP, Reagan and Bush 41 wouldnt fit in. They certainly wouldnt sign any pledge authored by that pissant Norquist. Reagan would put his boot up Norquists rear end. Reagan and Bush 41 wouldnt have allowed the fringe crazies to take over in the first place.

    June 13, 2012 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  21. myron

    @manwiththe1000poundbrain ummmm.... what kicked off the last recession was the collapse of the housing market due to mortgage lending policies that were brought in during the Clinton era. The Bush administration actually foresaw the potential dangers in these policies and tried to reverse them early in the 2000's but were thwarted by Democrat Congress. Yes the collapse and recession began in the Bush era, however if you truly understood the dynamics of market economies you would know that upswings or downturns usually cannot be credited to or blamed on the sitting administration when they happen simply because they are in power at that time.

    June 13, 2012 01:45 pm at 1:45 pm |
  22. kris

    yes , this 50% myth of people that don't pay taxes, those 50% of people are the elderly and kids. They don't pay taxes anymore or haven't started yet, the real number is probably 10% of the people are criminals and do everything in their power not to pay taxes and abuse the system as much as possible, much like the upper class who can afford the top accountants to allow them to pay as little as possible, it's hard to believe the party of the rich thinks ther deserve tax cuts during wartime and a 500 million dollar unfunded pharma bill, how unamerican can you get? but when greed is all that matters, they point to the "50%" that pay no taxes... GWB has made them even richer over the last decade and greed has taken over all sensibilities.

    June 13, 2012 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  23. Gurgyl

    I am very vexed with GOP lies, nonsense!!

    June 13, 2012 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  24. Saboth

    I'll agree with the statement that both sides are "at fault" for bipartisanship. However, the blame is not equal. It's more like a 20/80 split with Republicans going out of their way to deny any solution, to any problem, unless they gain from it politically. They honestly do not deserve their positions if they wish to risk the well-being of our country just to maintain or gain power.

    June 13, 2012 02:07 pm at 2:07 pm |
  25. Ed1

    This is what you will get to look forward to if Obama wins the election he is trying to do this now and it's not using the sword.

    "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."
    John Adams 1826

    June 13, 2012 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
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