Supreme Court says health mandate's a tax
June 28th, 2012
01:25 PM ET
2 years ago

Supreme Court says health mandate's a tax

New York (CNNMoney) – It walks like a tax and talks like a tax. Therefore it is a tax.

The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the mandate to buy health insurance - ruling that it is a tax and not a penalty as originally billed by supporters.

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  1. mikle

    Tax,tax,tax. 2009 -Obama" on tax on $250.000. Lie.Lie.

    June 28, 2012 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
  2. Romneycare was a tax?

    Since Romneycare was a tax in Massachusetts, you can't REPEAL Obamacare and REPLACE it with Romneycare.

    June 28, 2012 01:33 pm at 1:33 pm |
  3. sonnie3

    Another Large Tax increase that is called a fine.
    What a stupid law this is.
    Wake up America and get rid of the current congress and potus.

    June 28, 2012 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  4. sonnie3

    This is a tax on what you don't do??

    June 28, 2012 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  5. Romneycare was a tax?

    SCOTUS is making Rmoney look like a fool.
    Doubt if anybody still cares about anything Rmoney says in order to become president.

    June 28, 2012 01:46 pm at 1:46 pm |
  6. vic , nashville ,tn

    Today Eric Cantor said congress will repeal Obama care next month , what he is thinking they are not going to work on jobs
    Then he said November we have to speak tha Mitt Romney Champion of health care reform

    June 28, 2012 01:46 pm at 1:46 pm |
  7. Luke Brown

    Great decision.

    June 28, 2012 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  8. Rudy NYC

    Let me get this straight.
    So when you get caught shoplifting at the grocery store, you pay a fine.
    But, when you get caught shoplifting in the Emergency Room, you pay a tax.
    Got that, folks?

    June 28, 2012 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  9. Name joshua baker

    How come nobody is talking about the mandatory chip implant for medicaid recipiants ? It was said by a Holocaust survivor that their rights were not taking over night, they were taking one by one over time! Wake up Americans! Our rights are being stripped for our love of ease and conveinance!

    June 28, 2012 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  10. Had enough of Obama

    Obama (Sep 2009)

    STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase.

    OBAMA: My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I'm taking over every sector of the economy. You know that.

    Look, we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we're going to have an individual mandate or not, but...

    STEPHANOPOULOS: But you reject that it's a tax increase?

    OBAMA: I absolutely reject that notion.

    I say, more lies by Obama. Either he's a liar, or he's clueless. Your choice.

    June 28, 2012 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  11. Had enough of Obama

    Obama (Sep 2009)

    STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate...

    OBAMA: Yes.

    June 28, 2012 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  12. Had enough of Obama

    Obama (Sep 2009)

    STEPHANOPOULOS: ...during the campaign. Under this mandate, the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don't

    How is that not a tax?

    OBAMA: Well, hold on a second, George. Here - here's what's happening. You and I are both paying $900, on average - our families - in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. Now what I've said is that if you can't afford health insurance, you certainly shouldn't be punished for that. That's just piling on.

    It's clear that Obama cannot be trusted.

    June 28, 2012 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  13. insight iowa

    mikie – Obama never made it a tax... Your Judges did!! So, NO... Obama didn't lie to you.

    June 28, 2012 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  14. November 6, 2012 -- The Start of the Second American Revolution

    sonnie3 - This is a tax on what you don't do??
    =====================================
    Yes, get used to it. It is a tax penalty for leading your life contrary to the way leftist Democrats beleiev you should lead your life. You don't have this freedom of choice any longer. Get used to losing more freedom as this will be the model for the future and many more laws just like this.

    June 28, 2012 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  15. logic N LA

    LOOK at facts people. 250 million Americans have insurance. this was to help 30 million that did not have or could not get insurance. Of that 30 million, 6 million have already been helped by either stae law changes or those under 26 going on their parents plans. The only once that will be fined ( or taxed) are those that do not get some sort of insurance. This will include being able to go on employer plans that you may have opted out of or taking advantage of the premium finance portion if you cannot afford coverage. healtcare.gov will give you a timeline and tell you what is offered under this program.

    June 28, 2012 02:08 pm at 2:08 pm |
  16. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Romney IS an idiot.
    Only an idiot would contradict himself so blatantly as if video, the internet, and publications were not available to the populace. The SCOTUS in rendering their decision confirmed that fact today.

    June 28, 2012 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  17. rob

    @ insight iowa

    "Obama never made it a tax... Your Judges did!! So, NO... Obama didn't lie to you."

    While trying to jam it through, the Dems claimed it was not a tax so President Obama would not break his pledge to tax people under 250k of income but, during the various cout hearings the Admin lawyers changed their argument to say it indeed was a tax therfore constitutional. That is the basis for the SCOTUS decision to call it a tax and declare it constitutional.

    So Nancy Pelosi, Harry Ried, the President and all of the Dems who voted for this horrible bill DID LIE TO US !!!

    I pray we the people have enough intelligence to vote these people out in November.

    June 28, 2012 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  18. Myviewis

    insight iowa

    mikie – Obama never made it a tax... Your Judges did!! So, NO... Obama didn't lie to you.
    -----------------------------

    Most of us knew since Obamacare was introduced that it was a TAX because Obama gave it to the IRS to handle and IRS can only handle taxes. So Obama did make it a TAX, Supreme Court confirmed it.

    June 28, 2012 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  19. GK

    Didn't Obama say that Obamacare wasn't a Tax? Yes he did. Didn't Obama say he'd have the most transparent administraiton in history? Yes, he did. Didn't Obama say that he could make things better? Yes he did. Obamacare was ruled a tax, Obama has put up roadblocks to transparency everywhere he could. And things aren't better since he became president. Did Obama lie? Yes he did. Down with the liar!

    June 28, 2012 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  20. Thomas

    At least Obama is doing something !

    It's a start . The GOP never dose anything besides supporting going to war over nonexistent WMD's .

    June 28, 2012 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  21. Myviewis

    Thomas

    At least Obama is doing something !

    It's a start . The GOP never dose anything besides supporting going to war over nonexistent WMD's .
    ------------------------------

    Oh yeah, putting us all under the watchful eye of the IRS. Really smart Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!

    June 28, 2012 02:30 pm at 2:30 pm |
  22. November 6, 2012 -- The Start of the Second American Revolution

    There is some ironic justice to this though... I sure hope all you young naive morons voting for Obama look FORWARD to PAYING your Obamacare HEALTH TAX PENALTY!! Please don't be moochers off your parents policies. But since there will be far fewer jobs thanks to Obama and Obamacare, you might not have an alternative.

    June 28, 2012 02:36 pm at 2:36 pm |
  23. November 6, 2012 -- The Start of the Second American Revolution

    Thomas - At least Obama is doing something ! It's a start .
    ===============================================
    Yes, he is. Destroying our country and healthcare system. Hopefuly it is the END of him come November. Otherwise this country is heading down the tiolet at warp speed.

    June 28, 2012 02:40 pm at 2:40 pm |
  24. Cynthia L.

    I HAVE to pay for car insurance. That's the price for driving. In California, I have to keep my Smog Certificate current for my aging car, That's the price for clean air. If I am a homeowner and have a mortgage owned by a bank, I have to have Homeowner's Insurance in case of injury to another on my property and damages done to my house such as earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes. I have to be covered or my bank will not loan me money for owning a car, a house, a boat, an airplane, a train, a business. Now, because Insurance Companies have kept increasing healthcare costs and are picking and chosing which maladies are to their choosing (Death Panels, anyone?) whether or not you have paid into the system for YEARS and never used it until needed, they have forced our government to act. Why? Going to an Emergency Room and/or doctor costs money. Someone will always pay to pick up the slack – AKA the the people who are already insured by INSURANCE COMPANIES who justify the increases because of the uninsured or, the TAXPAYERS. Nobody has avoided paying already. This law makes it Illegal for private insurance companies to pick and choose the coverage they decide to give (Death Panels) and protects those people who pay a private insurer from being scammed. We were already being charged BECAUSE the INSURANCE LOBBIES always have their mouths at the Government Teat and have their hand out for Government to pay, pay, pay whether you are paying or not. Government is you, my friends.
    I would perfer there was NO middlemen who are in it for profits. You can bet the insurance companies are keeping us from cheaper healthcare. They are some of the RICHEST companies in this country. Yet, they spend millions upon millions to keep you DEPENDENT. Wake up folks. Your freedoms were taken away a long time ago by greedy people. Let's work together to make this an even better program.

    June 28, 2012 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  25. Fair is Fair

    In oorder for you to pay income tax, you have to have income.
    In order for you to pay sales tax, you have to buy something.
    In order for you to pay property tax, you must own something.

    What kind of a tax is this???

    June 28, 2012 02:48 pm at 2:48 pm |
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