Independents thrilled with neither Obama, Romney health reform plans
July 3rd, 2012
12:23 PM ET
2 years ago

Independents thrilled with neither Obama, Romney health reform plans

(CNN) - Independent voters largely disapprove of or are indifferent to the plans for the US health care system of President Barack Obama and presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney, according to a new poll.

Only one in four independent voters approve of Romney's plans and only two in five approve of Obama's plans, according to the ABC News/Washington Post poll released on Tuesday. It is the third major national poll conducted and released since the landmark Supreme Court ruling on Obama's law last Thursday.

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The poll shows Americans' opinions on the law and presidential race overall are evenly divided.

Forty three percent of registered voters agreed with the high court's ruling to uphold the law and 42% disagreed, the poll showed.

Independent voters were more divided. Thirty-six percent held a favorable view of the court's ruling and 43% held an unfavorable view.

But the ruling may not yet be influencing voters' decisions in the presidential race, with a CNN/ORC International Poll released Monday showing Obama and presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney statistically tied.

Those results are unchanged from a May CNN poll.

A USA Today/Gallup survey conducted hours after the ruling showed 46% agreed and 46% disagreed with the court's 5-4 decision, a split which occurred largely along party lines.

Voters overall are more favorable to Obama's plans for the health care system than Romney's, according to the Washington Post/ABC News Survey. Forty-five percent of registered Americans have a favorable view of Obama's plans, while only 31 percent view Romney's plans favorably. Approximately half of registered voters have a net unfavorable view of each candidate's plans, the poll shows.

Both candidates' plans have low approval ratings among the coveted independent voters. Romney's plans are favored by only 26% of independents, and 38% of independents favor Obama's plans.

Republicans favor Romney's vision for the health system - 62% in support of and 20% opposed – Democrats lean towards Obama's plans, 80% to 17%.

The telephone poll of 1,019 adults was conducted between June 28 and July 1. It has an overall sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.


Filed under: 2012 • Health care • Mitt Romney • Poll • President Obama
soundoff (23 Responses)
  1. That Guy

    The title of this post is misleading. It implies that Mitt Romney has a healthcare plan.

    July 3, 2012 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  2. Rudy NYC

    Go ahead, fools. Deregulate the health insurance indusry. Don't forget to blame Pres. Obama when your insurance company raises your rates 30% from one year to the next. That is what we saw during the GWB years. During the 2000s, the average health insurance premium grew by over 150%, that's more than doubled.

    July 3, 2012 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  3. Sniffit

    "Forty three percent of registered voters agreed with the high court's ruling to uphold the law and 42% disagreed, the poll showed.

    Independent voters were more divided. Thirty-six percent held a favorable view of the court's ruling and 43% held an unfavorable view. "
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    Polls like this should always be accompanied by a polling question (or several) that help us see whether the people being polled have the slightest clue what they're talking about in the first place. How many people on the street right now actually know what the decision said and means and have based their "favorable" or "unfavorable" on accurate information and understanding of the law and ruling? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's probably something ridiculous and sad, like 5% or lower.

    July 3, 2012 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  4. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    Independents have the right not to like Obamacare just like insurance companies have a right drop you or not insure you because you have a pre-existing condition but will accept your money as long as you and your family are in good health. Before I retired, every year my employer was required by the insurance companies that I must select a insurance provider, thank God my health never changed otherwise I would have been dropped.

    July 3, 2012 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  5. rob

    Considering Romney has not come out with a specific plan other than to repeal Obamacare (he needs to propose a specific plan to replace it) where does CNN come up with this poll ??? The CNN Political Unit has some heavy lifting to do this election. Spinning polls that obscure Dem policy failures and low approval ratings all while trying to keep journalistic integrity is impossible. CNN's ratings are as low as they are primarily because of these contortions of the truth disguised as journalism.

    Thankfully we have more Fair and Ballanced cable news outlets where the whole story is reported.

    July 3, 2012 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  6. Jesus Christ Superstar

    So all of these people who vote for not approving of President Obama's healthcare plan don't want health insurance? Do they want to keep paying out of pocket? I have health insurance BECAUSE of President Obama. Obama 2012!

    July 3, 2012 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  7. BeverlyNC

    Romney's healthcare plan is implemented in MA and working very well. He has no other plan despite his lies to the contrary. In fact Romney has no policy plans for anything – that is why he refuses to answer any questions of substance, is stil hiding his tax returns so we don't know where his money really comes from (like Bain's investment in abortion clinics service provider from which Romney made money and Bain made $75M in profits). Obamacare, although not fully implemented, is already working. No more insurance games of "pre-existing conditions". All children are now covered. Seniors are protected with medication gap coverage. Have you not noticed insurance company ads on constantly now competing for your business? This means we will be treated like human beings for once and our premiums wil go down as a result of the "free market" Republicans claim to be so in favor of – and President Obama has provided for the benefit of ALL Americans. I stand with my President – a true leader and a man of character, integrity, and honor with a proven success record despite constant Republican hate, lies, and obstructionism of every jobs and economic recovery bill. President Obama delivers solutions. Republicans deliver nothing but lies and destruction of everything that benefits People. I choose a People's President.

    July 3, 2012 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
  8. The Elephant In The Room

    The days of "FALSE EQUIVALENCY" between Republican and Democratic positions are over. We demand some hard hitting accountability in the media. If journalist want to trot out "1st Ammendment rights" as a defense for their existence, then they better start exposing politicians in interviews when the float OBVIOUS BS . . . like "Mardi Gras" being mentioned in the same sentence as healthcare.

    Independents are not equally torn betwween Obama & Romney. They couldn`t possibly be. Mr. Romney doesn`t even pass the "Can I trust him?" question.

    July 3, 2012 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  9. Four and The Door

    Forty three percent of registered voters agreed with the high court's ruling to uphold the law and 42% disagreed, the poll showed. Independent voters were more divided. Thirty-six percent held a favorable view of the court's ruling and 43% held an unfavorable view.
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________
    The decision to re-interpret the mandate as a tax in the court but only in as much as congress has the authority to implement it ( even though they did not know this is what they were implementing ) but to call it something else in the requirement that a tax cannot be brought to court until it has actually been levied was an obvious mistake by Justice Roberts. His decision of leaving it to the voters to decide in November was disappointing in the way he avoided actually doing his job because of how it might look. It seems Democrats are the only ones who bought into it. Big surprise?

    July 3, 2012 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  10. Rudy NYC

    Claudia, Houston, Tx

    @RUDY NYC The only thing that "trickles down is water", boy have the Republicans sold Americans on B.S.
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    They also want us to believe that jobs will trickle down to the middle class. They want us to believe that the same people who are rant about they want tax cuts because it's their money, they earned it, and they want to keep every penny of it. They want us to believe that the same people with that mindset will behave benevolently and just create jobs for people when their is NO DEMAND for additional goods, products, or services.

    That the tax cut obsessed Scrooge's will behave benevolently for the benefit of the common good. Trickle Down Economics is the best scam that the plutocrats have ever pulled on the rabble.

    July 3, 2012 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  11. Reggie from LA

    ...and what's their plan? We already know the Right doesn't have or WANT change in the existing and ongoing robbery in effect. Why don't the Indy's wrap up something good and stand behind it. We need the very best that can be developed. People are losing their homes and dying. Yes dying. Many don't understand the death rate associated with ER medicine.

    July 3, 2012 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  12. Al-NY,NY

    in response to specifics from Romney on what HIS plan is...."we'll get back to you on that"

    July 3, 2012 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  13. Ozzie

    I'm an independent, and the more familiar I am with the Affordable Care Act, the the more thrilled and supportive I am.

    July 3, 2012 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  14. Sniffit

    "The decision to re-interpret the mandate as a tax in the court but only in as much as congress has the authority to implement it ( even though they did not know this is what they were implementing ) but to call it something else in the requirement that a tax cannot be brought to court until it has actually been levied was an obvious mistake by Justice Roberts."

    Not true. The ruling shows that the authority granted by Article 1, Section 8 is not limited merely to things that would be literally and technically called a "tax", but offers somewaht broader authority to do things like the mandate, which have some of the characteristics of a tax, but also some differences.

    That aside, who cares? It amounts to a TINY tax increase of approximately 0.029% based on CBO's projections of how much revenue it will generate. That PALES in comparison to tax increases given to us by Reagan, GHWB and Clinton. It's literally smaller than 1/30th of the tax increase from Reagan in one Act...and smaller than 1/15th of the tax increases from GHWB Clinton in their Omnibus Budget Reconciliation bills. So I say, call it a tax all you want and lie all you want about it being "the biggest tax increase in the history of the world." The numbers prove that so wrong it's not even remotely debateable and you'll just be looking petty, ridiculous and mendacious.

    July 3, 2012 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  15. marty

    Chris Wallace of Fox News tried, three times without success, to get an answer from Mitch McConnell regarding the repeal of Obamacare shortly after the Supreme Court made their decision public. Simply put, he asked the congressman to tell him
    how Republicans would change the law regarding 1) people with pre-existing conditions; 2) families with children up to age 26; and 3) dropping coverage of ill persons (such as a cancer victim). It was pathetic to see a grown man try to evade the question and divert attention to his party's talking points. Watching this made me realize that the Mitch McConnells really do believe that they have the power to persuade the citizens of the U.S.A. to accept their warped views. I think the Republicans have been in the sun too long.

    July 3, 2012 01:19 pm at 1:19 pm |
  16. Wire Palladin, S. F.

    Mittens, the flip flopping man who never had a plan, and 31% view it favorably? That may explain that 21% of the GOP base had no idea that the ACA was upheld by the supreme court.

    July 3, 2012 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  17. Wire Palladin, S. F.

    Repeal congressional republicans' health care and perks. No more free rides for the free loaders in congress.

    July 3, 2012 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  18. Wire Palladin, S. F.

    As for trickle down, the right wingnuts must think that the 4 million jobs created in the last three years is from Regan's trickle down in 1982 just kicking in.

    July 3, 2012 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  19. Wire Palladin, S. F.

    Mitch McConnell not only has had a bad two weeks, the republican party has had a bad 6 months. People are beginning to realize that Mitch and his cronies would rather see 30 million kicked off insurance, benefits capped, and premiums going through the roof. He, Boehner, and the GOP want so desperately to destroy the country, and so far, they are losing the battle.

    July 3, 2012 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  20. Rudy NYC

    Chris Wallace: "Senator, what about the 30 million uninsured Americans?"

    Mitch McConnell: "That's not the issue!"

    July 3, 2012 01:40 pm at 1:40 pm |
  21. Vote the Tea Party OUT in 2012

    maybe they would support the right wing GOP program which is to just DIE!! Think I'm being to cynical here? Well just find the GOP debate where that was posed and listen to the cheer of the crowd.

    July 3, 2012 01:45 pm at 1:45 pm |
  22. Larry L

    Americans overwhelmingly want the provisions of the current health care law – in fact they want more. However, they do not want to pay for those provisions. Romney's latest flip-flop is to agree that the mandate is a penalty and not a tax. He also lists the provisions in his vision of a "replacement healthcare law" – essentially the exact same provisions as the current law but nothing specific on how he expects to fund the provisions. Do the math! Nothing is free!

    July 3, 2012 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  23. Four and The Door

    Democrats have a tough time accepting the fact that Obama/ Biden 2012 has to take the heat for the health care bill that was delivered rather than the health care plan that was sold. It's twice as expensive and half as effective, but it was the result 100% of Democrats in back room deals with the Republicans locked out. We can do better. We will do better. We will get it right though, and do universal healthcare without bankrupting the nation and we will improve the quality of care as well. Romney 2012.

    July 3, 2012 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |