Biden hits Romney-Ryan ticket as a 'stark choice'
August 13th, 2012
03:21 PM ET
2 years ago

Biden hits Romney-Ryan ticket as a 'stark choice'

(CNN) – Fresh off a beachside vacation, Vice President Joe Biden resumed his campaign trail attacks Monday, this time with a new target in the mix.

Biden, at an event in Durham, North Carolina, argued the decision to pick Rep. Paul Ryan as Mitt Romney's running mate offers a "stark choice" for voters this fall.

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"The differences couldn't be more clearly laid out through the selection than you're going to hear," Biden said.

Biden called Ryan on Sunday to congratulate the Wisconsin congressman, who was announced as Romney's No. 2 at a campaign even in Norfolk, Virginia the day prior. But the vice president said the move to put Ryan on the ticket further clarifies the differences between the two campaigns this fall.

"These are stark, stark choices," Biden said.

Democrats have since pounced on the running mate pick, using the House budget committee chairman's controversial budget plan as a way to paint a Romney presidency as a threat to popular entitlement programs, like Medicare and Social Security.

Ryan's $3.5 trillion budget proposal, first introduced in 2011, includes the provision that Medicare-approved private insurers would one day compete with traditional Medicare on an exchange. The proposal would not affect Americans currently over age 55. The plan's opponents, however, say that would increase the financial burden on senior citizens.

In his remarks Monday, Biden refrained from digging too far into the so-called Ryan plan, instead using the opportunity to tie Romney with House Republicans, at large.

"Congressman Ryan has given definition to the vague commitments that Romney's been making. There's definition to it now," Biden said. "It's clear. Congressman Ryan and the Congressional Republicans…have already passed in the House what Governor Romney is promising to give the whole nation."

The vice president countered the idea that the policies promoted by a Romney-Ryan White House would offer bold solutions.

"What's gutsy about giving millionaires another tax break, what's gutsy about gutting Medicare, Medicaid, education? What's gutsy?" Biden said.

Defending his proposals, Ryan said Sunday his plan would retool Medicare so that it remains financially soluble for future generations.

"My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida," he said in an interview with CBS News. "Our point is we need to preserve their benefits, because government made promises to them that they've organized their retirements around."

Romney has in turn embraced Ryan's budget plan in the past, comparing them to some of his own economic policies. The presumptive GOP nominee, however, has not made Ryan's plan a part of his platform in the 2012 campaign, and in a set of campaign talking points obtained by CNN on Saturday, surrogates are reminded, "Of course they aren't going to have the same view on every issue."

Responding to the speech, Romney's campaign said Biden "doubled down" on what it called the "failed policies" of the Obama administration.

"Vice President Biden today doubled down on the same failed policies that have resulted in skyrocketing debt, higher taxes and record job losses," Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said in a statement. "The Romney-Ryan ticket will lay out a bold vision for our country and promote commonsense policies that will create jobs, help the middle class and turn around our struggling economy."

But the vice president on Monday argued Romney's choice of Ryan will turn off voters in the end, arguing the selection represents a move further to the right within the Republican Party.

"Folks, this ain't your father's Republican Party. It's not even Governor Romney's father's Republican Party," Biden said, referring to the late George Romney, former Michigan governor and one-time presidential candidate.

Biden's speech came shortly after President Barack Obama delivered jabs against Ryan, warning an Iowa crowd about the congressman's position on the controversial farm bill.

"I am told that Governor Romney's new running mate Paul Ryan might be around Iowa the next few days. He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So, if you happen to see congressman Ryan tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities," the president said.

– CNN's Kevin Liptak contributed to this report.


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soundoff (140 Responses)
  1. Al

    Clear cut choice.....continue to allow a man with NO vision to completely destroy America or change course with a man of integrity and rebuild what Obama has destroyed. Yiou liberals need to stop this garbage about Medicare and Welfare....you guys haven't done one thing to help repair except demand more tax dollars that we will not give you !!!

    August 13, 2012 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  2. Sniffit

    "ObamaCare cuts a half-trillion dollars from Medicare over the next decade. These cuts are
    unsustainable and will lead to a reduction in the quality of care for seniors who rely on the program to secure access to needed medical...."

    This is getting freeking ridiculous. THE EXACT SAME SAVINGS AND CUTS MEASURES ARE IN RYAN'S PATHOLOGY OF PLUTOCRACY BUDGET THAT THE GOP VOTED FOR EN MASSE.

    Would you PLEASE correct this nonsense by educating the public CNN? Do your job as journalists for once. It's bad enough that people might be voting based on such hypocritical misinformation and ignorance, but you only help them try to spread it to more people by letting them post it while failing to correct it in your reporting. That's a big fat F- on the ethics scale.

    August 13, 2012 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  3. Al

    to ....AgeofInsanity
    You won't get your Medicare if Obama stays in office. So there.

    August 13, 2012 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  4. Ancient Texan

    truth hurts- exactly! I have long time friends that have been Democrats all their voting life that are bewildered and angry by what has happened to their party. High jacked by the Socialist/Secular Progressive segment has left them with two choices; vote for Romney/Ryan or stay home on November 6th.

    August 13, 2012 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  5. KNKLHEAD

    This is CLEAR. If you are under 55, a woman, middle class or lower and you vote for Romney you have not educated yourself very much. If you are rich, a corporation or Wall Streeter who'd like to go back to W Bush's wild, wild west, Romney's your guy.

    August 13, 2012 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  6. Ferret out the B.S.

    While I wouldn't feel the fallout from a Romney/Ryan budget, my children and grandchildren will and it isn't pretty. Reagan told us in the middle class he was cutting taxes whlie he took away the majority of our deductions and now Romney/Ryan want to take away the rest of our deductions such as our motgage deduction. The middle class doesn't have much left to give up. They talk about class warfare and they're the ones waging it. Keep their thumb on the people so they don't get too uppity.

    August 13, 2012 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  7. Jerry

    This is Houston, please be advised Obamaloney has eliminated our funding. Now you need to extend your stay in space until WE (NASA) can help elect a responsible patriotic and experienced president.

    We (NASA) will (depending on funding availably) will send up a rocket with some small food stuffs and a change of clothing.

    NASA, NASA, NASA......

    August 13, 2012 04:20 pm at 4:20 pm |
  8. Wire Palladin, S. F.

    Al – You say, ". . . so there." Like most middle school cheerleaders from the privileged right wingnut class, you really need to grow up.

    August 13, 2012 04:21 pm at 4:21 pm |
  9. ghostriter

    This might be the one matchup that goes the republicans way. Broadway Joe may not be able to handle Ryan. Should be fun to watch, though.

    August 13, 2012 04:21 pm at 4:21 pm |
  10. Al

    Apparently Capt D has his brains in his underwear, more than likely in his Ass. Perhaps you should check your underwear, your undies are probably full of you know what. It is pretty clear your head is full of the same stuff.

    August 13, 2012 04:22 pm at 4:22 pm |
  11. Niyol

    It had better be a stark choice... 180 degrees from the Carteresque leadership that Obama has shown. My vote is Romney. We don't need 4 more years of a president working to divide the nation.

    August 13, 2012 04:24 pm at 4:24 pm |
  12. Rudy NYC

    Ancient Texan

    truth hurts- exactly! I have long time friends that have been Democrats all their voting life that are bewildered and angry by what has happened to their party. High jacked by the Socialist/Secular Progressive segment has left them with two choices; vote for Romney/Ryan or stay home on November 6th.
    -------------–
    TRANSLATION: They let a black guy take over.

    The only people that I have encountered with words similar to what you describe really, really don't like the fact that a black has risen too high. Something about having to take orders from a black guy.

    August 13, 2012 04:25 pm at 4:25 pm |
  13. cruch

    blah blah blah...both sides have defectors. My long time republican parents and their friends left the party when the religious zealots highjacked it. Truth is, both parties stink.

    August 13, 2012 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  14. Rudy NYC

    Sniffit

    "ObamaCare cuts a half-trillion dollars from Medicare over the next decade. These cuts are
    unsustainable and will lead to a reduction in the quality of care for seniors who rely on the program to secure access to needed medical...."

    This is getting freeking ridiculous. THE EXACT SAME SAVINGS AND CUTS MEASURES ARE IN RYAN'S PATHOLOGY OF PLUTOCRACY BUDGET THAT THE GOP VOTED FOR EN MASSE.
    --------------
    Obviously, they missed Paul Ryan yesterday acknowledging that exact fact. That his plan cuts just as much from Medicare as Pres. Obama's plan.

    Notice, consevatives, that his words have also recognized the fact that Pres. Obama has a budget plan. The crazy talking about "Obama not having a budget" is ridiculous. He's required by law to submit a budget. If he has not done it in the past, I can assure you with absolute certainty that Rep. Issa would have had him up for impeachment by now.

    August 13, 2012 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  15. Reality

    Republicans have never accepted accountability for the results of their policies in the past, so why would they now. Record job loss was achieved in 2008, and turned around in 2009. As much as the Repubs whine about not blaming things on the past guy, they want to blame things on the next guy before he even took office. I'm convinced that all Republicans have to sign an oath to be pathological liars to be allowed to join the party.

    August 13, 2012 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  16. Penobscot

    Romney are Ryan are the ONLY choice in November.

    Obama has failed this country and is leading it to fiscal insolvency. His solution? Tax people more. Take away what they've earned and re-distribute it to those who are crappy at life. What a leader. What a statesman. What a tool.

    August 13, 2012 04:30 pm at 4:30 pm |
  17. ohio voter

    I know many democrats who are not bewildered or angry at their own party. They, just like many of their
    republican friends are bewildered and angry at what W left us and cannot believe that some would be
    stupid enough to vote in more republicans for an instant replay. Just look at poll numbers lately–the
    very fact that it is so closes tells you that people are really doing some thinking about republicans since
    the 2010 elections.

    August 13, 2012 04:32 pm at 4:32 pm |
  18. Mr. Grumpy

    I am so looking forward to a debate between Ryan and Biden. Ryan will eat that dolt Biden alive. My guess is the Dems recognize this and it'll never happen.

    August 13, 2012 04:32 pm at 4:32 pm |
  19. Mr. Grumpy

    I am so looking forward to a debate between Ryan and Biden. Ryan will eat Biden alive. My guess is the Dems recognize this and it'll never happen.

    August 13, 2012 04:32 pm at 4:32 pm |
  20. n

    Paul Ryan is just a puppy that was thrown in the pound of seasoned blood hounds by his party and Mitt the twit as the sacrificial lamb to take the heat off of Mitt the chicken hawk twit. Poor mutt, almost got chewed up by the big dogs bark. Romney, the User-N-Chief . . . where are those taxes?

    August 13, 2012 04:35 pm at 4:35 pm |
  21. FUBAR

    Biden has to be shaking in his boots. He has to debate a man who has 20 times the inteligence and 20 times the communication skills. Picking Ryan just put the final nail in the Obama-Biden coffin.

    August 13, 2012 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  22. Peter

    @ Ancient Texan....I sincerely doubt your statement. The current Democratic administration is so far right of Socialism it's not funny. So your "friends" would contemplate voting for a party that is so far ultra right that it has purged its moderate wing? Doubt that very much.

    August 13, 2012 04:37 pm at 4:37 pm |
  23. 1byrd

    Truth Hurts: You can't count. Period........ Moe-ron.....

    August 13, 2012 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  24. REG in AZ

    The choice is clear as long as we keep reality clear in our minds and the reality is that the rhetoric doesn't really matter as the politicians will preform totally consistent with satisfying the interests of their supporters who demand no less ... and the more support that is given, the more mega-millions that is poured into the support, the more tightly are the strings tied to that support. The rhetoric about the issues is the necessary subterfuge aimed to rationalize with deceptive and creative logic in oder to seem authentic ... but reality is that the politicians have to be focused on satisfying their strong supporters. The Republican / Tea Party is owned and controlled by "the money" and over the last twelve years we have clearly seen their "puppet" performance in both the protection of "the money's" interests and their stubborn blocking and arrogant faulting of Obama's and the Democrats' efforts – literally they simply have no choice and we should expect nothing else. The Democrats while receiving some large contributions are really dependent on the people for their support and power, which dictates they have to focus on the people's interests ... with the problem there being "all of the people's interests" which that then being hard to satisfy everyone, thus leaving opportunities for many to be conned and manipulated with appeals to biases, prejudices, fears, emotions and loyalties. In the final analysis it should be remembered that the Republicans have no choice, no matter how they disguise it, but to cater to the 1% and that just leaves no room for ever satisfying the 99%. The rest is BS.

    August 13, 2012 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  25. BOB FROM BRIDGEPORT

    ROMNEY / RYAN there is a bad smell in the air-has someone fail to flush the tiolet or is it that romney has finally pulled his head out of the his own ass!

    August 13, 2012 04:41 pm at 4:41 pm |
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