August 15th, 2012
10:59 AM ET
2 years ago

Romney campaign tries to take Medicare away from Obama

Washington (CNN) - The fight to define Paul Ryan is getting more heated by the day. But days after defending against an offensive against his running mate, Mitt Romney's campaign appears to be mounting a counteroffensive.

President Barack Obama's re-election campaign launched a full frontal assault on the House Budget Committee chairman almost immediately after Republican challenger Mitt Romney named the seven-term congressman from Wisconsin as his running mate Saturday morning.

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Filed under: 2012 • Medicare • Mitt Romney • Paul Ryan • President Obama
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  1. Sniffit

    "Romney campaign tries to take Medicare away from Obama"

    MSM tries to help him by intentionally ignoring the facts that Mittens' attacks are demonstrably false and insanely hypocritical.

    August 15, 2012 11:02 am at 11:02 am |
  2. IF YOU SIGNED GROVER'S PLEDGE, YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO THE U.S.

    Let's stick to facts please. Ryan's Budget will make Medicare a voucher program. FACT!! That voucher won't be worth nothing for seniors with serious medical conditions. FACT!! The republican platform is to privatize everything. They don't believe government has a role in anything.

    August 15, 2012 11:07 am at 11:07 am |
  3. Sniffit

    "Ryan's proposals do call for a partial privatization of the government health insurance plan for seniors, but only for those now under age 55 that would go into effect in 2023."

    Really? Let's see...and mind you, this isn't all of it....

    The ACA finds $700B in savings by adjusting hospital reimbursements and subsidies, Medicare Advantage payments, etc. Ryan's plan finds $700B in savings by issueing vouchers, the value and purchasing power of which would rapidbly decline because they ony increase at the rate of inflation, not the much higher rate of health care cost increases.

    The ACA closed the "doughnut hole." Ryan's plan does not.

    The ACA made Medicaid changes that help provide more coverage to seniors where Medicare leaves off. Ryan's plan does not.

    The ACA would save the average senior $4,200 over a decade and between $3,000-$16,000 in perscription expenses depending on what they need. Ryan's plan does not.

    The ACA extends the life of Medicare by 8 years, giving us time to make further adjustments. Ryan's plan repeals and replces Medicare entirely nd then slaps the name "Medicare" on it in order to pretend it's the same thing.

    August 15, 2012 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  4. truth hurts

    This is excellent because not only does it expose Obama's and the Democrats raiding of Medicare to fund their insane Obamacare, but it brings up Obamacare which most Americans want repealed. Romney needs to keep hammering away on this and Obamacare.

    August 15, 2012 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  5. Sniffit

    And perhaps most important:

    The ACA turns the $700B in savings aroudn to pay for itself and the broader coverage and assistance it gives seniors.

    The Ryan plan turns the $700B around and uses it to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy.

    August 15, 2012 11:10 am at 11:10 am |
  6. Sandy

    Sniffit

    "Romney campaign tries to take Medicare away from Obama"

    MSM tries to help him by intentionally ignoring the facts that Mittens' attacks are demonstrably false and insanely hypocritical.
    _________________
    You stole my thunder. I was going to say something similar. Thanks.

    The media disgusts me with the way they are allowing Romney to tell all these lies without letting people know the truth. Soledad did a pretty good job debunking Sununu yesterday, but the rest of the media is a shameful bunch.

    August 15, 2012 11:13 am at 11:13 am |
  7. Random Poster

    And Obama is trying to take medicare away from the American people in order to fund his idiotic health care scam.

    August 15, 2012 11:13 am at 11:13 am |
  8. Lynda/Minnesota

    "Romney campaign tries to take Medicare away from Obama"

    I don't know, CNN. Romney/Ryan WILL take Medicare away from Americans is probably the better headline going forward. Then we can work our way into "Romney/Ryan Wants to Outsource Social Security to Wall Street Investors."

    August 15, 2012 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  9. Larry

    It's a shame that fox "news" has taken away the ability to comment on its website. It was so much fun to read the ranting of right wing lunatics on subjects they know absolutely nothing about. Their standard source for most of their opinions is the bible. Enough said.

    August 15, 2012 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  10. Bill, NY

    Paul Ryan is the "Genius" who wanted to invest social security in the stock market. Could you imagine what would have happened to that money when the market tanked 2007-2008? Now this bozo(my apologies Bozo) wants to voucher Medicare. If they win I see a future where we won't need the "Death Squads" of legend, as the sick and infirm will be dying in the streets.

    August 15, 2012 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  11. Darryl

    There are NO guarantees to a voucher program. Ryans plan is a death plan to society and does nothing for the poor or the middle class at all. The republicans have been trying to do away with medicare from the time it was set up. The Obama plan is far better and secure for the country as a whole. Romney & Ryan will never convince the people of this country any different. It's a security issue not a guessing game. They 2 people need to be stopped befor we really find that we are in trouble in the future.

    August 15, 2012 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  12. sonny chapman

    Repubs. HATE Medicare. Always have, always will. It runs counter to their political dogma. Doesn't matter whether THE PEOPLE like it; they hate it.

    August 15, 2012 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  13. BLKMANinAmerica

    OMG...............why would he "try" to do that? Is it because he knows (Robney) 85% of Americans wouldn't stand for his plan to gut a program that has made America a better place to live? U think?

    August 15, 2012 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  14. Thomas

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan posing on a battleship says it all !

    Five sons , all avoided voluntary military service.

    Mitts sons don't feel the need for Medicare , next they will cut the VA .

    August 15, 2012 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  15. sonny chapman

    When Repubs. say they want Save Medicare, I'm reminded of the Us Military logic in Vietnam," We had to burn the village in order to save it from the Viet Cong."

    August 15, 2012 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  16. truth hurts

    Obama's BIGGEST attack on medicare and social security is his demolition of the workforce over the last 4 years. FIVE MILLION people have dropped out of the workforce. Can you imagine all of the lost social security and medicare taxes of 5 million people over these years?!! And if Obama continues this disastrous record for another 4 years, Medicare and Social Security will be bankrupt far faster.

    August 15, 2012 11:35 am at 11:35 am |
  17. Lynda/Minnesota

    "The ACA extends the life of Medicare by 8 years, giving us time to make further adjustments. Ryan's plan repeals and replces Medicare entirely nd then slaps the name "Medicare" on it in order to pretend it's the same thing."

    Great point. It will definitely no longer be Medicare. It'll be just an underfunded and useless "voucher" program gone terribly wrong.

    August 15, 2012 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
  18. rs

    No, no, no CNN- you hae it wrong. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan are not taking Medicare away from Mr. Obama- they are taking it away from Americans. Specifically, so that they can give the wealthiest 1% another, even bigger tax cut (that I am sure by mere coincidence reduces their income taxes by a stunning amount).
    For a party so worried about ficticious "Death Panels", they sure have their values backwards- "save the rich the poor and elderly don't matter".

    August 15, 2012 11:44 am at 11:44 am |
  19. Sniffit

    "And Obama is trying to take medicare away from the American people in order to fund his idiotic health care scam."

    That "idiotic healthcare scam" actually keeps the guarantee of coverage for seniors and EXPANDS IT by closing the doughnut hole for prescriptions and expanding Medicaid to cover things that Medicare doesn't for seniors. It cuts from provider reimbursements and does not cut anything whatsoever from the benefits promised. Ryan's plan DOES NOT PROVIDE A GUARANTEE OF COVERAGE, JUST A GUARANTEE OF COUPON...a coupon that will rapidly lose the power to purchase coverage over time. The money Ryan's plan claims to "save" is simply diverted to tax cuts for the rich. Mittens said he would sign Ryan's plan. There is no getting out of this for him or for Ryan....no matter how much you gather your forces and lie lie LIE to distract from it.

    August 15, 2012 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  20. California

    Obama has taken $700 Billion from Medicare already and has essentually destroyed it and throwing grandma under the bus in the process.

    Obama has taken the presidency to new lows.

    August 15, 2012 11:48 am at 11:48 am |
  21. Peace

    Do Romney and his team think people are stupid?? This issue of Paul Ryan dismantling medicare is known long time ago. Seniors, even Tea Party are aware of this since 2010, thats why some GOP senators/congress contenders in Nov. are running away from it.

    August 15, 2012 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
  22. Lynda/Minnesota

    Obama has taken $700 Billion from Medicare already and has essentually destroyed it and throwing grandma under the bus in the process.

    Obama has taken the presidency to new lows.
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    Repeating a lie and then adding your own embellishments hinders your credibility. Just giving you (and TeamRomney) a word of caution.

    August 15, 2012 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
  23. truth hurts

    >Lynda/Minnesota - "The ACA extends the life of Medicare by 8 years, giving us time to make further adjustments.

    Total lies based on bogus assumptions that the CBO MUST use. Just like they said this was going to cost less than a trillion dollars but that was because they rigged the numbers. 10 years of taxes but only 6 years of payout. Now as Obamacare gets closer to being implement, the REAL COST is becoming clear. It is now up to $2.6 TRILLION and will go HIGHER.

    American was sold a bunch of lies and deceit with Obamacare and will pay for it with huge sums of tax dollars (21 new taxes), a reduction in medicare money, and the destruction of the healthcare system in the USA that 85% of the people lwere satisfied with.

    August 15, 2012 11:55 am at 11:55 am |
  24. Tony

    Romney says that he wants to save/strengthen Medicare. Romney's plan replaces Medicare with a voucher plan, in which seniors will pay for medical care that exceeds a pre-determined amount. Romney will keep Medicare for people currently over 55, because he does not want to make them angry. Medicare as we know it will cease to exist for people who have not reached the age of 55. Romney also says that he wants to strengthen the middle class. People of the middle class, be afraid. Be very afraid.

    August 15, 2012 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  25. PJ

    I saw a rerun of Brett Hume's interview with Paul Ryan and it was pathetic. They have already muzzled him, he
    couldn't answer one simple question that Hume repeatedly asked: When does your plan balance? Ryan backed
    off of his earlier claim that the budget would balance by 2040 (or some such) and kept saying "we don't know".
    So we have a whiney Republican Presidential candidate and a flustered VP candidate. On top of that we have
    more "secret" meetings (article above) and no specifics.
    Romney whines about Joe Biden's comment, but never said a word when Santorum said "they will put you in chains
    called Obamacare and you will never break away".
    He virtually called Mr. Soptic a liar, since he was the one in the commercial talking about his wife. Not to mention
    that it was super PAC commercial not associated with the Obama campaign.
    Just sayin' Romney is one odd duck.

    August 15, 2012 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
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