Ryan addresses Medicare criticisms, mom campaigns Saturday
August 16th, 2012
04:30 PM ET
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Ryan addresses Medicare criticisms, mom campaigns Saturday

Warren, Ohio (CNN) - Saturday Paul Ryan will bring out his designated hitter on Medicare: Mom.

Defending his reform proposals in a Sunday interview, the newly minted VP candidate noted the concerns seniors may have about change to the government program by saying his own mother is on Medicare and lives in the battleground state of Florida.

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This Saturday Ryan's mother will join him on the stump in The Villages, Florida, according to Ryan traveling press secretary Michael Steel.

Meanwhile, at a campaign rally in North Canton, Ohio, Ryan continued to hit President Barack Obama about his changes to Medicare and later he addressed the concerns about his own plan in Warren.

Ryan made his comments Sunday in a joint interview with Mitt Romney on CBS's "60 Minutes," a day after he was announced as Romney's running mate.

"My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida," he said on CBS. "Our point is we need to preserve their benefits, because government made promises to them that they've organized their retirements around."

While Ryan has accused the president of "raiding" Medicare to pay for Obamacare, in Thursday's remarks he also addressed critics who claim his budget blueprints include the same cuts.

The House Budget Committee chairman tried to explain that the budget he helped write had to include a baseline for Obama's health care law. He said Thursday he voted to repeal Obamacare and made the point, "we would never have done it in the first place."

"First of all, those are in the baseline, [Obama] put those cuts in. Second of all, we voted to repeal Obamacare repeatedly, including those cuts. I voted that way before the budget, I voted that way after the budget. So when you repeal all of Obamacare what you end up doing is that repeals that as well," Ryan said to a reporter who asked him to respond to the criticism over lunch at The Original Hot Dog Shoppe.

Ryan continued, "In our budget we've restored a lot of that. It gets a little wonky but it was already in the baseline. We would never have done it in the first place. We voted to repeal the whole bill. I just don't think the president's going to be able to get out of the fact that he took $716 billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare."

Obama and his re-election team have aggressively gone after Ryan since he joined the Republican ticket five days ago.

"Congressman Ryan knows that the $716 billion in Medicare savings that he included in two of his own budgets do not cut a single guaranteed Medicare benefit. It's a shame that someone picked for his 'strong beliefs' is now abandoning them just to help Mr. Romney score a political point," Obama campaign spokesman Danny Kanner said in a statement.

Ryan said he welcomes the conversation between parties. He repeated a line from Wednesday in his North Canton remarks, "This is a debate we want to have, this is a debate we need to have. This is a debate we're going to win."

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  1. myviewis

    California Gary

    I'm sure that Ryan's mom has been assured that she will be taken care of regardless of what happens to Medicare......a lot of seniors don't have that luxury.
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    A lot of Seniors also didn't nor have the luxury to not have gotten a cost-of-living increase in 3 years from Obama but that didn't matter to you, I didn't see you complain about it and Seniors need that money and have been in need of that money for the last 3 years. There is a really good article about this in the Huffington Post. You tell Seniors who have had to cut down on their medicines and food, gas that Obama took care of them.

    August 16, 2012 05:13 pm at 5:13 pm |
  2. Jerubbaal

    Come on dude, you are running to mommy to help you fight your battles. Just like Mitt the Twitt running to Ann. DISGRACEFUL AS A MAN.

    August 16, 2012 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  3. Obama - Ending the American Dream as We Know It

    Russ
    Obama – Ending the American Dream as We Know It......You need to get a life and do some fact checking.
    Most of us don't have that luxury. It comes out of our social security which he also wants to take away.
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    Ok, so the Democrats have scared you into believing that your social security is going to be taken away now??? And just how is that supposed to happen?? I mean I know both medicare and social security are going bankrupt all by themselves if nothing is changed. But who do you think is going to "take it away"??? Totally ludicrous. NOBODY supports that.

    August 16, 2012 05:14 pm at 5:14 pm |
  4. Under the Ryan Plan, Romney Pays 0.87% in taxes

    President Obama didn't cut Medicare; by addressing waste, fraud and inefficiencies, he found a way to save money.

    You'd think the Repubs would appreciate that ... Munster's mom should be ashamed she raised such a liar.

    August 16, 2012 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  5. myviewis

    Jerubbaal

    Come on dude, you are running to mommy to help you fight your battles. Just like Mitt the Twitt running to Ann. DISGRACEFUL AS A MAN.
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    You are very much insulting Michelle Obama who is always helping her husband campaign, so your comment is not very nice towards the family members of either.

    August 16, 2012 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  6. Under the Ryan Plan, Romney Pays 0.87% in taxes

    @myviewis: "A lot of Seniors also didn't nor have the luxury to not have gotten a cost-of-living increase in 3 years from Obama but that didn't matter to you, I didn't see you complain about it and Seniors need that money and have been in need of that money for the last 3 years."

    You are such a liar! Members of Congress Members of Congress did not receive a cost of living adjustment in pay during fiscal year 2011. Regarding COLAs and seniors, I offer these FACTS from the Social Security Administration website:

    "Social Security benefits will increase by 3.6 percent beginning with the December 2011 benefits, which are payable in January 2012. Federal SSI payment levels will also increase by 3.6 percent effective for payments made for January 2012. Because the normal SSI payment date is the first of the month and January 1 is a holiday, the SSI payments for January are always made at the end of the previous December."

    Repubs and their lackeys know when to ignore facts that don't help their pathetic, lying, hypocritical candidates ....

    August 16, 2012 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  7. Truth Bearer1

    I'm pretty sure those burger and fries are going to mess up Paul Ryan's P90X workout routine and diet.

    August 16, 2012 05:30 pm at 5:30 pm |
  8. Pete

    So Ayn Rand diciple is bringing out the big guns,his mom all the way from Lauderdale by The Sea,Florida a secluded gated community near the ocean,cost a pretty penny bet ya,million plus I bet to be there ..And poor Paul had to use SocialSecurity survivor benefits to go to college after his millionaire father died,started young screwing the government just like his boss Romney,what a pair,of crooks of course!!

    August 16, 2012 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  9. Hey, Mittens got anymore of those 100K jobs at Bain for doing nothing? 'Call Me, Maybe?'

    Be sure and ask Mommy how she likes having to pay for her scripts when the "donut hole" reappears after you repeal Obamacare.

    August 16, 2012 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  10. Ayn Rand(author of 'Selfishness is a Virtue') was an atheist, so doesn't that make her disciple, Paul Ryan, "ANTI-CHRIST"?

    Not sure trotting your 80 plus year old mother out and subjecting her to the same grief you are enduring, is the most manly thing you could do.

    And if you think we are going to be kind to someone that gave birth to the very devil's spawn, that wants to throw all the poor mom's off the cliff, you are indeed more deluded than you appear to be.

    August 16, 2012 05:43 pm at 5:43 pm |
  11. Larry L

    All you need to understand Ryan's voucher idea is a look at the Bush pharmaceutical benefit. It was a gift to pharmaceutical companies paid for by the taxpayer. Since nobody could debate the prices the drug companies just upped their prices to account of the 10% benefit – and seniors got screwed. The Ryan plan will pass on cost overruns to the consumer – so the rich will get great health care and everybody else will get left-overs. Why would you trust Romney? Where are his tax returns?

    August 16, 2012 05:44 pm at 5:44 pm |
  12. Lynda/Minnesota

    So Ayn Rand's disciple is using him mommy to cover for him? I thought Ayn Rand didn't think the family unit was necessary.

    August 16, 2012 05:44 pm at 5:44 pm |
  13. myviewis

    Under the Ryan Plan, Romney Pays 0.87% in taxes
    "Social Security benefits will increase by 3.6 percent beginning with the December 2011 benefits, which are payable in January 2012. Federal SSI payment levels will also increase by 3.6 percent effective for payments made for January 2012. Because the normal SSI payment date is the first of the month and January 1 is a holiday, the SSI payments for January are always made at the end of the previous December."
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    You didn't mention the previous years. Here's some help for you in case you didn't finish reading the whole SSI, I copied it for you so as to not be accused of lying "There was no COLA in 2010 and 2011 because the CPI-W, as determined by the Bureau of Labor Statistics in the Department of Labor, for those years did not increase above the level of the third quarter of 2008, the last year a COLA was determined. "

    August 16, 2012 05:45 pm at 5:45 pm |
  14. Sniffit

    'Sniffit

    His mother should be ashamed of him.
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    Why? Because his Medicare plan gives us a Choice to either stay with the traditional Medicare or we can find our own insurer and our Medicare money pays for it? Why shouldn't we get to choose what we want with our money????'

    That's illusory. The coupon rapidly devalues and provides no choice at all, because you won't be able to afford the difference.

    August 16, 2012 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  15. Lisa P

    myviewis

    Well, Obama can take our $716 billion dollars from our Medicare if Obama pays each and everyone one of us that has paid into Medicare an interest for every year that our Medicare supports Obamacare.
    August 16, 2012 04:47 pm at 4:47 pm
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    What if President Obama uses the $716 billion to find ways to lower medical costs for everybody, including seniors on Medicare? Would you consider yourself paid back with interest? $716 billion divided by 300 million Americans comes to a little over $2000 per person - one month's health insurance premium for many families, a couple of months for a single person like me. If we can get medical costs under control, though, by pushing (and rewarding!) prevention and better medical practices the benefits will last for decades.

    August 16, 2012 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  16. rs

    So, let me get this right....

    Mr. Ryan (and Maybe Mr. Romney, if he doesn't change his mind again) are claiming that by kicking 30 million people off of their health care insurance (by repealling the ACA), they are actually making things better for Medicare because their cut (and presumably Mr. Obama's) from the non-benefit side of Medicare (that doesn't affect currently enrolled Medicare members' payouts) won't take affect (when/if they repeal ACA), but then they will still do the wiggy voucher deal which effectively kills Medicare as we know it?

    Is this like "we had to destroy the village to save it" from the Vietnam War era?

    And meanwhile, they want to drop Mr. Romney's effective tax rate to .087%?! No, freakin' way!

    Now I know why Bush-o-nomics was such a failure, and why we shouldn't allow these guys to take America back there.

    August 16, 2012 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  17. myviewis

    Lisa P
    What if President Obama uses the $716 billion to find ways to lower medical costs for everybody, including seniors on Medicare? Would you consider yourself paid back with interest? $716 billion divided by 300 million Americans comes to a little over $2000 per person – one month's health insurance premium for many families, a couple of months for a single person like me. If we can get medical costs under control, though, by pushing (and rewarding!) prevention and better medical practices the benefits will last for decades.
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    I like your mathematics but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The formula government uses is way more complicated than that. If it were that way I would agree but not their formulas.

    August 16, 2012 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  18. Ayn Rand(author of 'Selfishness is a Virtue') was an atheist, so doesn't that make her disciple, Paul Ryan, "ANTI-CHRIST"?

    "Ryan continued, "In our budget we've restored a lot of that. It gets a little wonky but it was already in the baseline."

    Come on, get wonky, I promise I am capable of understanding budget baselines.

    "Trust me".

    August 16, 2012 05:53 pm at 5:53 pm |
  19. Lynda/Minnesota

    "Because his Medicare plan gives us a Choice"

    Yeah ... Plan A (high cost) or Plan B (low cost) ... both vouchers.

    August 16, 2012 05:54 pm at 5:54 pm |
  20. Glenn Rice

    If Ryan and Romney believe in the Ryan budget principles, why are they hiding from them? I'd have admiration for a man who stands by his beliefs but only contempt for one who lies about his positions. I think Ryan and Romney have fallen into the contempt category.

    August 16, 2012 06:05 pm at 6:05 pm |
  21. California Gary

    Say there myviewis.......it is the GOP "slash and burn" approach to everything that is resulting in a lot of people facing cuts in pay and benefits.....including seniors. Their refusal to allow anything to happen if it involves the raising of taxes on anyone, has resulted in cuts to almost everything as the only remaining approach to balancing the budget. And if they have their way, they will cut deeper yet. So don't lay this at Obama's feet.......talk to you buddies in the GOP about it. Ask them what they plan to do in the way of COLA's for the old folks.......you'll love their answer.

    August 16, 2012 06:05 pm at 6:05 pm |
  22. CBR

    Medicare is not the problem. The problem began with the war in Iraq. Mr. Ryan did not ask the Bush administration for a breakdown of costs nor did he ask how we would pay for this war. That war went on for 7 years and is now continuing another 4 years. How do you expect to pay for a war when you are not bringing in the equivalent sum in taxes.

    Now we will make cuts all over the place whether they are meaningful or not and those making under $100,000 will be hurt the most. Since Mr. Ryan and Mr. Romney are millionaires they probably are not worried about the cuts.

    August 16, 2012 06:12 pm at 6:12 pm |
  23. Ryan/Romney Kill Medicare Team 2012

    Where is Paul Ryan big endorsement from AARP on his Medicare Plan?

    August 16, 2012 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  24. MikeinMN

    Please tell me that the seniors of this Country won't be hood winked by this BS. Like Ryans mom needs Medicare unless she's a freeloader or Ryan's a scrooge.

    August 16, 2012 06:50 pm at 6:50 pm |
  25. Republicans - "The Not Intended to Be Factually Accurate" Party

    What thinking independent voter will give any credibility to Ryan because of his mother? Honestly, what are these sissy republicans thinking? Romney hides behind his wife`s skirt. Now Ryan is hiding behind moms apron.

    What mother can ever admit that she has an UGLY baby? Similarly, do you expect Ryans mother to give any "objective" facts as it pertains to her son? Pluzee, don`t waste our time.

    August 16, 2012 07:03 pm at 7:03 pm |
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