August 23rd, 2012
05:01 PM ET
2 years ago

Fact check: Obama education ad misleading

Washington (CNN) - Class size and what it means to how kids learn has been a long and hotly contested issue. President Barack Obama and many educators believe smaller classes, with fewer students per teacher, are the way to go.

So his latest ad tries to school Mitt Romney on that subject.

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Filed under: 2012 • Ads • Education • President Obama
soundoff (24 Responses)
  1. Sniffit

    And not once have we seena "fact check" article on Mittens' blatantly, verifiably, demonstrably false claims and acusations about the Medicare savings and welfare waivers. Why? Simple: because Obama is leading in the polls and the MSM needs to keep this tight in order for it to be more sensational. So what do we get instead? A fact check almost immediately in response to a new Obama ad...while weeks of Mittens' lying ads on Medicare and welfare waivers have gone unchecked. Stop carrying Mittens' water, CNN. You're not even doing a good job of hiding it.

    August 23, 2012 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  2. Willy100

    Too bad the SPEECH WRITERS do not get facts straight – they do not Lie – they just LEAVE OUT the facts – – class size has NOTHING To do with student performance in the range of 25 – 35 pupils = NOTHING – – FACT – – it's just that the Teacher Unions want MORE teachers – making 100% pensions – – simple MATH – -

    August 23, 2012 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  3. Gurgyl

    Let me tell one important thing–neither class size nor school matters. It parental involvement in kid's life matter. If you use profanity in front of kid he picks it, if you drink–picks it. If you are lazy he turns lazy. So focus more on education. Please do not blame any one. We have just wonderful teachers. They are working hard. Ok. Involve until kid graduates from "university".

    August 23, 2012 05:16 pm at 5:16 pm |
  4. cali girl

    Robmey wants to severely cut education, getting rid of teachers, right along with police and fire.

    August 23, 2012 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  5. Howard

    All Obama cares about is pandering to the teacher's union. He will say, or do anything to hold onto power !!!

    August 23, 2012 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  6. Mark

    Obama keeps shooting himself in the foot. Take the high road dude!

    August 23, 2012 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  7. Pete

    Romney doesn't care about class size or quality of education,his kids all had private tutors or went to private schools.This elitist doesn't know what's it like to get up at 6am to get the kids ready for school or check out their home work or make their lunches,he's above all that.Don't even try putting him with hard working people ,he makes me sick ,hypocrates,elitists all!!!

    August 23, 2012 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
  8. Brian

    On one hand I would like to see president Obama take the high road and not do misleading ads like this one. On the other hand I understand because Mr. Romney is doing ads that are telling straight up lies like his welfare and medicare ads. Obama is not gutting work requirements for welfare, and the $716B Romney talks about in his medicare ads are savings that prolong the life of the program not cuts to benefits.

    August 23, 2012 05:40 pm at 5:40 pm |
  9. Sniffit

    The real education issue shouuld be this voucher crap that's taknig place in states like LA, where they're using school voucher programs as thinly veiled means of funnelling the taxpayers' taxes to religious schools taht teach nonsense like "man and dinosaurs roamed the earth together" and "evolution is just a theory, but genesis is the truth straight from God." LITERALLY. That is what some of these schools teach and they are getting uncritically approved for voucher programs as a means of sucking children out of the public school system where they can't be indoctrinated with religious mumbo jumbo as a means of defunding and killing public education and the rules that go with it. BUT IT STILL USES EVERYONES' TAXES TO PAY FOR THAT INDOCTRINATION. Watch it carefully...it's going to become a huge problem.

    August 23, 2012 05:43 pm at 5:43 pm |
  10. vic , nashville ,tn

    CNN your Fact check is misleading

    Don’t do the fact check in ac room Please go to urban schools do the Fact check what red states are doing

    August 23, 2012 05:44 pm at 5:44 pm |
  11. me

    Awwww you mad because someone made money and sent his kids to private school? How dare hee make money while you sat on your fat lazy posterior! Bunch of whiney little children

    August 23, 2012 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  12. 920th RQS VET

    We don't need more teachers, let kids get taught lecture style from grade school. It will all work out for the best as long as we have a balanced budget. If you cant afford to put your kids in private school or get health insurance, too bad for you. The government cant fix all you guys problems!! what do you think the government is meant to intrude in your personal life!?! The less government the better, unless you want to gay marry or have an abortion, then the government needs to step in for the betterment of general society!! (SATIRE) I think education & healthcare are way more important than if 2 dudes want to get married or a welfare mama doesnt want anymore kids. But i'm an illogical veteran (too many IED's) How about free sterilization for anyone on government assistance!! ( oh, we tried that already didn't we...eugenics. ) Why do the ones in power see the most clueless of all??

    August 23, 2012 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  13. myviewis

    I doubt Obama can truly talk about class size or education because he himself did not experience public school. Obama went from 5th grade to 12th grade to one of the most expensive, elite, private, beautiful schools in the Manoa Valley, Punahou School. Obama only knows private schooling with horses, tennis courts, basketball courts, golf, sailing, etc.... I don't think Obama's opinion counts.

    August 23, 2012 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  14. CBR

    Check in with Massachusetts teachers about that. Class sizes grew because money was not coming from the state. Another trickle down idea. Any tool which helps a teacher to gain the attention of the students and to meet their needs is what is needed. .

    Class size may not matter in systems where the children are engaged in learning and discipline problems are lower. In order to really help these young people a teacher needs to have the time and resources. Otherwise you have teacher burn-out which is not a satisfactory outcome.

    August 23, 2012 06:09 pm at 6:09 pm |
  15. kayla

    if you don't fact check the two candidates, then don't check any.cnn

    August 23, 2012 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  16. GI Joe

    If you have 3 or 4 kids and you want to pay $5000 to $10000 per year per child - for gradeschool - vote for Mitt and his charter schools. Good luck.

    August 23, 2012 06:17 pm at 6:17 pm |
  17. T'sah From Virginia

    ►vic , nashville ,tn
    CNN your Fact check is misleading
    Don’t do the fact check in ac room Please go to urban schools do the Fact check what red states are doing◄

    AMEN – And when was the last time – oh wait, there is NOT a time – there was a BIG HEADLINE like the one you see "FACT-CHECKING" Romney???????????????? As many LIES he his telling, I have NEVER seen a BIG FACT CHECK headline!!! Come CNN – First, I am being FORCED to listen to HATE-ads when I visit your site coming from Romney's PACs (and we know he runs them) and now you can't even get your FACTS-Right – Smaller classes work better..........PERIOD!!

    Obama 2012 – The Only Trusted Way Forward!!

    August 23, 2012 06:49 pm at 6:49 pm |
  18. T'sah From Virginia

    ►Given the facts, we are tempted to give Obama's ad an "F" for false. But we'll settle on an "M" for misleading.◄
    I am being saturated with ads here in Virginia – I have not heard ONE that is telling the TRUTH – Why isn't CNN Fact-Checking these ads?? Also, if you feel that Obama should get an F, then why are you giving him an M for misleading? If it is truly an M, then why mention the F --- Sometimes I really feel like I am on Fox's website or listening to Fox News when I visit here – Almost every Ticker is about RomneyHood and boy LYAN stating a bunch of LIES!!!

    Obama 2012 – The Only Trusted Way Forward!!

    August 23, 2012 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  19. enuff

    Romney wants to get rid of the department of education. So why is the issue about smaller class size, when people want education eliminated? The dumbing down of America continues.

    August 23, 2012 07:18 pm at 7:18 pm |
  20. The REAL TRUTH...

    @Sniffit – And not once have we seena "fact check" article on Mittens' blatantly, verifiably, demonstrably false claims and acusations about the Medicare savings and welfare waivers. Why? Simple: because Obama is leading in the polls and the MSM needs to keep this tight in order for it to be more sensational. So what do we get instead? A fact check almost immediately in response to a new Obama ad...while weeks of Mittens' lying ads on Medicare and welfare waivers have gone unchecked. Stop carrying Mittens' water, CNN. You're not even doing a good job of hiding it.
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    Hear, hear. Let's get some REAL TRUTH in jounalism and how about an EXPOSE on the total garbage that the Repug camp is putting out on Medicare. Anyone with a dozen or more active brain cells can do their own research and conclude that the GOP is flat out lying about their plan. Numbers? We don't need no stinking numbers... trust us!
    Right... look what Dubya did to this GREAT country in 8 yrs. And the right expects trust ???????????

    August 23, 2012 07:37 pm at 7:37 pm |
  21. landofgreatness

    This is basic Republican dogma:

    1) If you get raped, it is obviously your fault – or your lying.
    2) If you lose your job, home, and retirement, you were over extended and over your heads. Your fault.
    3) If you lose your health care, who cares – your sickness was probably pre-existing anyway. Your fault
    4) If you lose your savings to Wall Street greed, always remember – greed is good and it was your fault.
    5) If you lose your legal rights and rights to privacy, you were probably a terrorist anyway. And it was your fault.
    6) If you lose your right to vote, it is your fault (we are making sure of that with biased and unnecessary voter I.D. laws)
    7) If you lose your chance at citizenship, hooray! and good riddance! Your fault for believing in the Statue of Liberty.
    8) If you lose your shot at the American dream, so what, we got ours and fat pockets to boot! Who cares – your fault.
    9) If you lose your right to organize and collectively bargain for fair wages, – yes and amen, (we already saw to that). Your fault for wanting fair wages.

    10) If you lose your small voice as a citizen because of our heinous "Citizens United" ruling, Yes – gotcha – and try to remember – large corporations, and hidden power structures are people too! Your fault for not seeing that one coming!

    11) If you lose all your rights as an American citizen – who cares, we will pin that on the Democrats with lies big enough and long enough that they eventually be believed. – Your fault for believing us yet again!

    12) If you lose your sanity. see: #3 above – you got it. Your fault.

    Signed, – Karl Rove, Romney, Cheney and friends

    August 23, 2012 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  22. Thomas

    Fix it !

    All I know is Romney will strip it clean to the bone and then sell it !

    August 23, 2012 09:07 pm at 9:07 pm |
  23. dssman

    The fact is the states that did the poorest on the 2012 ACT national test were Arizona, Mississippi, Tennessee and Florida, all red states. Republicans have failed American education. Part of this problem are legislative elected officials like Akin who have wacko theories. America see for by just doing the research.

    August 23, 2012 09:16 pm at 9:16 pm |
  24. gord

    they have handed national security over to private companies -home land security and patriot act.why not teachers ,firemen,policemen.they will work for half the money

    August 23, 2012 09:21 pm at 9:21 pm |