Democrats mildly resist GOP argument on Obama's presidency
September 2nd, 2012
06:35 PM ET
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Democrats mildly resist GOP argument on Obama's presidency

(CNN) – Republicans raised the question in their convention of whether the country is better off than it was when President Barack Obama was elected, and it doesn't seem that Democrats have a convincing argument going into their convention this week.

Both Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate Paul Ryan had a variation on the theme in their acceptance speeches last week in Tampa, Florida.

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  1. GI Joe

    Romney is soooo jealous of raygun. Isn't that one of the 7 deadly sins? envy.

    Methinks the Bishop is worse than a hypocrit.

    September 2, 2012 06:53 pm at 6:53 pm |
  2. Four and The Door

    "I think the average American recognizes that it took years to create the crisis that erupted in 2008 and peaked in January of 2009," Axelrod said. "And it's going to take some time to work through it."
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    David Axelrod's calendar is off by about 22 months. Unemployment peaked at over 10% just before The Great Shellacking of Democrats in the mid-term elections. January 2009 was the start of a steep rise in both national debt and unemployment.

    September 2, 2012 07:04 pm at 7:04 pm |
  3. Anonymous

    It is fact. The economy is doing better than when President Obama was elected. A slow progression is still moving in the right direction. We don't need a rich mans fast schemes that will again leave us holding the bag when they All increase their wealth with public pensions. Job creators are corporations and bosses. I trust government over them.

    September 2, 2012 07:06 pm at 7:06 pm |
  4. Brian

    If Democrats are having trouble articulating if we are better off, then we deserve to loose to Romney. I do think that his experience and leadership has paid off in spades at minimizing the impact of America's worst depression since 1929. Stock market is recovering, housing is recovering, job growth is recovering, Wars have ended/are ending, auto-manufacturing has survived (and thrived), Bin Laden is dead and there is a lot less saber rattling going on these days because the rest of the world knows we mean business. I think people expected everything t get better over night but only because they do not know how bad things really were.

    September 2, 2012 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  5. T'sah From Virginia

    ►Republicans raised the question in their convention of whether the country is better off than it was when President Barack Obama was elected,◄

    Democrats – STOP being WIMPS!!! Many may not be better off – but in reality, it would have been a lot WORST if President Obama was not able to STOP a depression that was imminent. We are ADDING jobs for the past 3-4 years when we were LOSING over 800,000 a month when President Obama took office. YES, it's a slow recovery but would McCain have done better????

    The markets, which is what the RICH FOLKS care about are doing fine. As a matter of fact, BIG CORPs, according to Romney, are also doing fine. Almost every economist has predicted more than 12,000,000 jobs will be created in the next four years, NO MATTER who the president is – Don't allow RobMe to capitalize on that – which he is trying to do – and take the same claim – “President Obama will create 12,000,000 jobs in the next four years… Jeez!

    Concentrate on the accomplishments of President Obama – Mention all that was BLOCKED by the Do-Nothing Congress and the American people will figure it out!!!

    Obama 2012 – The Only Trusted Way Forward!!! And YES, We Know You Built That – We ALL Did!!!!

    September 2, 2012 07:26 pm at 7:26 pm |
  6. GOP is Dead

    Interesting question... Since the country was just falling off the cliff from Bush's recession and mortgage crisis, and since the Republicans have worked very hard to prevent any economic progress, one might wonder how anybody could be better off. Still, the recovery has progressed in spite of Republican obstructionism. They've got a lot of nerve to even ask the question.

    September 2, 2012 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  7. Gurgyl

    This nation is lot better off with president Obama now than any president. Why didn't they nab Medicare fraud, immigration fraud??? Ok.

    September 2, 2012 08:32 pm at 8:32 pm |
  8. The Elephant in the Room

    In 2008, the DOW was around 6,000. TODAY it is over 13,000. Yeah I`d say people`s 401Ks are better

    In 2008, we were losing upto 700,000 jobs PER MONTh; TODAY we have had 29 straight months of private sector job growth. That`s over 4 million jobs that didn"t exist in 2008. I`d say things are better.

    In 2008, there were several HUNDRED more al Queda terrorists running lose; including bin Laden. TODAY, Americans are far safer they they were under No. 43. So much so that we take it for granted.

    President Obama has moved the economy positively. We have more work to do and IF American citizens vote a STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC ticket and remove those obstructionist Tea Party Republicans, the country will see jobs jobs,bjobs to become the true focus of the "Do-Nothing Congress".

    With that, things can improve further. Obama isn`t the problem. Having Boehner as Speaker of the House is the problem. Having Cantor an Mitch McConnell standing in the way of progress, is the problem. Fire them, Hire Obama and the progress under No. 44 will accelerate.

    September 2, 2012 08:38 pm at 8:38 pm |
  9. SeriouslyWow

    All you have to do is look up all the Stats from his start to this day to see the economy has improved. Has it improved as fast as everyone wanted? NO, but to most Americans if it did not happen over night, then that means you are not doing a good job. Jobs have improved, Google it. Economy has improved, Google it. A positive number is a positive number no matter how you spin it. Well unless you are GOP, they can turn any positive to a negative.

    September 2, 2012 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  10. Tami

    There is no argument , it is in the very worse shape in my life. I am 47, female and never paid attention. I am awake now, glued to social and media. I watch and listen to it all and have been for the last 2 years. We must vote him out to survive.

    September 2, 2012 09:17 pm at 9:17 pm |
  11. Pete

    Well after listening to some of your delushional surrogates on tv recently ,undoubtedly yes.They're still saying its Baracks fault and even showing them facts they still don't get the picture,Bushs 8 years were losers and our president steadily has brought us back from that fiscal cliff that you ignorent republicans are so trying to push us off.Saying no to everything isn't political,isn't patriotic and most certainly ain't the way to win over people,especially the struggling tax paying ones...So to all you representitives in the republican majority led House and minority led Senate,you're just like Romney after November 6th,get your bags packed boys,girls,especially Boehner,McConnell, you'll be going home,Boehner you got a bar to clean up when ya get to Ohio,ta ta!!

    September 2, 2012 09:41 pm at 9:41 pm |
  12. CBR

    Some of us were not pleased with the way Romney governed MA. He did not spend four full years governing MA> He chose to run for President and then to only serve for one year as Governor. Somehow Kerry Healey is loyal to him even though some people believed that she took on some difficult projects so that he could run for President.

    Mr. Ryan has not been a team player unless he could be captain. Some of his ideas and statements are not acceptable either.

    Sorry that some politicians do not find it necessary to do anything to make sure that legislation was passed on a bipartisan level. The Republican leadership failed, period. They were not willing to work with the President or anyone else. They believe their job was to thwart any action that the President wanted to take. Unfortunately, these men think their actions were acceptable even though Congress has the worst ratings and people are very aware that they did nothing but accept the taxpayers money.

    September 2, 2012 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  13. S.B. Stein E.B. NJ

    If they can't make an arguement that says "we've done what we could and plan on doing better this way," Obama isn't going to make it. Obama needs to say what will be done going forward. Granted, the Republicans hasn't done squat to say that they do much better.

    September 2, 2012 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm |
  14. george of the jungle

    lots of people are better off. I have good health care now. My nephew got a great new job comming out of college. My daughter just took a new better paying job. My payroll taxes are down House is paid off. I know people are still hurting but many have jobs some have started new businesses. So repos are not always right. Forward 2012 Headed in the right direction not back to the rich good old boy club.

    September 2, 2012 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  15. Former Republican, now an Independent

    I think the convincing argument is the fact that 8 years of the same policies the GOP is proposing in this election, drove us closer to another great depression than anytime since the 1st. A catastrophic administration like Bush/Cheney takes years to recover from, even without the GOP voting no on every bill that could have pulled us out quicker.

    September 2, 2012 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm |
  16. enuff

    "Mildly resist"? cnn playing games with voters? Why are you trying to get people to think that the dems are starting to question their positions? Why the cnn salute to Romney? Can't be objective as journalists I see.

    September 2, 2012 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm |
  17. Ed1

    That's because Obama can't say we are better off now than we were four years pretty simple.

    Cry all you want to I voted for Obama with the chance of Hope and Change but Hope didn't happen and now i will vote for change and I will vote that way in November.

    September 2, 2012 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm |
  18. hate from the left but mostly lies

    That's because they don't have convincing arguements. However, they don't need them because Obama and everything associated with him is considered angelic. The left doesn't need a reason, they need Obama Almighty to say "do this, it will help the country". Instantly his half-baked ideas become the work of atrue genius, and anyone who opposes it is evil incarnate and is worse than the devil if he was a pedifile.

    September 2, 2012 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm |
  19. noneofyourbeeswax

    Is 3 years even long enough? For every year the economy was damaged, it takes two to fix. Now is not the time to change course or go backwards.

    September 2, 2012 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm |
  20. dubyasux

    Of course the country is better off than it was 4 years ago. When Obama was inaugurated, the economy was falling off a cliff, 700,000 jobs a month were being eliminated, GM and Chrysler were on the verge of complete bankruptcy, and the budget deficit was $1.5 trillion. While things would certainly be considerably better if Congress was working with the President, the Republicans deliberately chose to put the country at risk for their own political gain. Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Definitely! And we'll be doing much better if we get rid of the obstructionists standing in the way of the nations progress.

    September 3, 2012 12:20 am at 12:20 am |
  21. Bernard obryant

    It good and bad it good that govt there to help but it bad 8.3 unemployment .high gas prices but america is still strong

    September 3, 2012 01:21 am at 1:21 am |
  22. freemon sandlewould

    No skills, No experience. Clueless. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT???

    September 3, 2012 01:24 am at 1:24 am |
  23. Paul Ernest Show

    To ask Americans if they are better off today than they were 4 years ago, after GOP has spent the last four years committed to destroying the American dream, in hopes of denying the president a second term, is dubiousness at its core. They never hid their intentions. They verbalized it. The voted it. They acted on it. No president has had to face the kind of roadblock these unpatriotic, conniving, Republicans put on his path, in modern American political history. It's a shame that the media is pretending that is not true. The GOP did everything, in its power ,to forestall economic recovery of the nation. A condition that was made necessary as a result of one of their own's recklessness and deception. They connived with big businesses to sabotage the efforts of a genuine president. It's like starving your children for weeks and then calling them up, and asking them, "why are you sick?". "are you dead yet?".

    September 3, 2012 01:31 am at 1:31 am |
  24. CBR

    Sorry for the error. Mitt Romney served on term as Governor of MA. MIstakenly wrote one year. It was his stepping stone to the Republican nomination for President. If elected would the job hold his interest. Not sure there is another job he could seek.

    One thing is for sure he has many 1%ers giving huge donations to these PACS. What will he give in return? Cannot believe that they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. These PACs are spending money to insure tha the Republican agenda is followed. Undoubtedly these people read the Republican platform and agree with the content. We will see many more years of outsourcing as companies continue to ship their manufacturing jobs outside of the USA. Sure could use some of those funds to improve the infrastructure of this country. Won't need to make repairs and updates to the public schools because the Conservatives are pushing virtual education for students. We will have generations of students who will not be able to relate to other people. What kind of people skills will they have?

    Guess "No Child Left Behind" is no longer a Republican idea. Jeb Bush is a touting virtual education.

    September 3, 2012 03:19 am at 3:19 am |
  25. ZipWizard

    The Democrats should not buckle to re GOP on the better off 4 years argument. After climbing out of a very deep recession...there is nothing to be squeamish about.

    Of course we are better than 4 years ago! It might not follow the curves of normal economic references when no massive recession is invoked...but Obama saved America from a depression. That is no easy task...with the opposition playing obstructionist just as jobs bills were Getting underway.

    We are better, in light of these previous developments:
    * 800,000 jobs were being lost every month. Obama patched the leak.
    * We have had 41 months of expanding GOP.
    * We have seen the return of 4.5 million jobs despite GOP interference.
    * We have ended one of TWO wars...the Iraq War costing America Trillions.
    * You can now get health insurance with an existing condition. Was not possible in 2008.
    * You kids are covered to age 26, for health insurance if living at home. Great for youth that are unemployed.
    * Bin Laden is DEAD. He was alive In 2008.
    * The Stock Market is over 13,000 points in S&P. It was around 8,000 when Obama took office.
    * The auto industry was weeks away from complete collapse at the end of 2008. Obama helped revive them. It is a strong reason Ohio's jobless numbers are going down...because of Detroit just north.
    * We are a net exporter of oil. The first time in decades.
    * Major dictators are dead. Obama assisted in some capacity to a successful conclusion...which seems to be working towards Democracy.
    * The commercial space ventures got a master push under Obama.
    * We have had mostly positive job growth for the last 3 years under Obama. I doubt anyone else would have done any better.
    * The middle class has saved an average $3000 tax cut under Obama.

    The list goes on...but you get the point. America would have millions living out of tents if Obama had not rescued the national banking system. You nay not feel it in the traditional sense...but America is basically BETTER OFF under OBama than it was 4 years so.

    September 3, 2012 05:30 am at 5:30 am |
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