Biden mocks GOP convention, ponders Martian reaction
September 8th, 2012
07:06 PM ET
2 years ago

Biden mocks GOP convention, ponders Martian reaction

Zanesville, Ohio (CNN) - Fresh off the Democratic National Convention, Vice President Joe Biden used two appearances in Ohio on Saturday to mock the Republican National Convention in Tampa and accused his opponents of not having the courage to explain their policies. Those and other comments were quickly labeled as "false and discredited attacks" by the Romney campaign.

Biden even went galactic: claiming that a Martian visiting the RNC would have, essentially, been lost in translation.

"If you had been dropped down from Mars, (if) you'd been in a time capsule for the last 100 years, and you got dropped down from Mars and turned on the convention and you heard them talking about Medicare, you'd think they really cared about it," Biden said. "You'd think it's something they thought of."

"Wouldn't you have thought, 'These guys, man, they must've come up with this idea and they've defended it all along.'

"They mention it so often, you'd be surprised to learn they've always been trying to chip away at it for the last 40 years," Biden added, crediting Democrats "who came up with the idea" and who've fought to defend it.

Biden attended two campaign events in Ohio: a morning stop at the Zane Grey elementary school in Zanesville – some 50 miles east of Columbus - and a stop at the Athens Community Center in the city of Athens, home to Ohio University in the southeastern part of the state.

Zanesville is located in Muskingum County. In 2008, then-Sen. Barack Obama lost to Republican Sen. John McCain in the county by seven points. Alternately, Obama won Athens County in 2008 by 36 points.

At the elementary school, the vice president began by lumping Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan with House Republicans.

"There is no difference between what Romney wants to do in this country and what the House Republicans and the House of Representatives have already tried to do," Biden said, claiming his opponents want to "inflict the same programs, the same initiatives, the same tax system."

"They want to restore the greatness to this nation," Biden said in a mocking voice. "I wonder if it ever crossed their minds how in the Lord's name we got in this mess in the first place."
From there, the vice president picked apart the arguments laid out at the Republican National Convention.

At the convention, Republicans started a debt clock on the first day to count the amount of debt accrued during the four-day event. The massive clock hung from a balcony in a prime location, in full view of attendees and television cameras.

Biden had a response for that.

"And they got that clock running back there," Biden said. "They don't know that they had a whole bunch of Republicans running to get that clock moving the previous 20 years."

"They're right about one thing; we got to deal with the debt," Biden said. "They're right, but they talked about this great urgency to get it under control…But not once, not one single time did they tell you that they rejected every single solitary offer: Ryan, Romney, the Republican Congress rejected every effort to reduce the debt in the last four years."

Later, at the Athens stop, Biden went further – saying Republicans refused those debt-cutting offers if they contained "one single dollar, one single penny in a new tax for millionaires."

The vice president also questioned the courage of Republicans to explain their proposals.

"What are these policies? Well, they're not telling you," Biden claimed. "They don't have the courage to tell you what these new policies are. I do. I got the courage to tell you. I'm anxious to tell you."

On Medicare, Biden said: "What they're proposing will actually cause the Medicare trust fund - that pays for the benefits when you go to the hospital, the doctor, etc. - to run out of money, a sufficient amount of money by 2016. That's when it would hit the wall."

Biden continued: "And the most important thing they did not tell you: they're not actually preserving Medicare. They're for a whole new plan, 'vouchercare.'"

"Here's how it works. They're going to give your mom or your dad - when they become eligible, or even if they are eligible - they're going to give you a voucher, which is essentially a coupon. And it's going to be worth X amount of dollars. And they're going to say to your mom, 'Mom, go out there in that insurance market and bargain for the best deal you can get, including if you want to buy Medicare.' But if it costs more than the…benefits you're now getting, they say, 'Mom go borrow it somewhere.'"

Biden also filled in what he likened to blanks in his rivals' tax proposals.

"They need you to pay for the massive tax cuts they want to keep for the very wealthy," he said.

"Five hundred billion dollars - one-half trillion dollars - of those tax cuts go to 120,000 American families," Biden said. "They want to add a new - a new - $250,000-a-year tax break for those same families. Folks, that's not fair, man. That's not fair."

On both points, the vice president claimed his facts could not be challenged.

"You notice they've never challenged my facts as I repeat that," Biden said, referring to the 120,000 families line. "I say to the press, fact check me," he said of the claim that GOP proposals will drain the Medicare trust fund by 2016.

The Romney campaign was more than happy to accept the vice president's offer.

In a statement, Romney campaign spokesperson Amanda Hennenberg said: "Today, Vice President Biden said that he should be fact checked, and we agree. The Vice President knowingly and deliberately leveled false and discredited attacks. This is further proof that the Obama Campaign is unable and unwilling to talk honestly or substantively about the most important issues driving the country."

"In an attempt to distract from President Obama's failed record, including unemployment remaining over 8 percent, labor force participation falling to three-decade lows, and our national debt passing $16 trillion, Vice President Biden is once again advancing fabricated and disproven attacks on Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. The American people know better and deserve better. That's why in November, Americans will line up behind the Romney-Ryan plan to strengthen the middle class, create jobs, and get our country back on the right track."


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soundoff (37 Responses)
  1. Gurgyl

    Joe, ignore these GOP idiots.

    September 8, 2012 07:20 pm at 7:20 pm |
  2. MrPhoenix

    I don't get it. Biden said, "Go ahead, fact check me." The Republicans claim they did and called him a liar. I don't see their facts though. Did they just look in their imaginary fact book where they keep all the other baloney and dispute his claim from that? Oh, and they're not going to produce the real numbers – the facts to back their claim. Don't you get tired of their constant lying? I've never in my life seen a political party so pathologically committed to inventing truth.

    September 8, 2012 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  3. yasmine

    R/R and certainly dish it out by they can't take it... whiners

    September 8, 2012 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  4. panorain

    To hear the stuff that comes out of Biden's mouth sometimes wonder if the doctors that operated on him to save his life remembered to put everything back or maybe left something in there accidently.

    September 8, 2012 07:22 pm at 7:22 pm |
  5. Wendy

    Go Joe! Keep calling out alexithymic Mitt and radical Ryan on their hypocracies.

    September 8, 2012 07:24 pm at 7:24 pm |
  6. Namejkane sfl a vote for the gop will cut your moms medicare and soc sec .can you afford to pay for them???

    The only failed record we should be talking about is romney the tax cheats failed record as govenor of mass ,where he basically got kicked out of office with a 30% approval rating and couldn't get realected,and left the new gov a one billion dallar defict and destroyed all his records ,kind of like what he's doing with his tax returns . You have to be crazy ,stupid and brain dead to vote for this loser ,not to mentioned lyin Ryan !!!!

    September 8, 2012 07:28 pm at 7:28 pm |
  7. "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." --B. Obama

    I think little joey has lost his mind.

    September 8, 2012 07:30 pm at 7:30 pm |
  8. birdie3

    WHERE ARE THE FACTS.
    YOUR STATEMENT JUST SAYS HE WRONG.
    LETS SEE YOUR NUMBERS THE MR.RYAN AND YOUR BOSS.WHATS HIS NAME

    September 8, 2012 07:33 pm at 7:33 pm |
  9. panorain

    That is a big tax break. But $250k for 125k families only works out to $31b, not $500b. Maybe we should require politicians to explain their numbers on a yearly basis, just like corporations have to do.

    September 8, 2012 07:34 pm at 7:34 pm |
  10. Namejkane sfl a vote for the gop will cut your moms medicare and soc sec .can you afford to pay for them???

    Biden is going to make mincing meat out of lyin Ryan ,I guess the gop idiots party thinks he a up and comer ,but when their all idiots in the first place ,it doesn't mean much ,and by the way ,you might want to ask lyin Ryan about the 60,000 dallar campaign contribution from the casino owner in,his home state for ryans help in getting another casino licence ,I guess the problem was he had to return it when ryans name pop up in a federal probe ???? Good luck with that!!!

    September 8, 2012 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  11. rla

    Go Biden- you will be the best VP one heart beat away from the president ever????? NOT

    September 8, 2012 07:44 pm at 7:44 pm |
  12. Marie MD

    I can't wait for the vp debate. Vice President Biden is going to mop the floor with that plate faced lying altar boy.
    There's is SO much material that it can go on for days.

    September 8, 2012 07:57 pm at 7:57 pm |
  13. GI Joe

    The Ryan/Romney Plan:

    Let me see.

    Adults (average) pay $2000/yr more in taxes
    Charter schools cost $6-$10 thousand/year per child K-12
    Grammaw and Pappaw each pay $6000+ more with vouchers.

    OK

    then they can give each multi-millionaire a $250,000 tax cut.

    Got it.

    September 8, 2012 07:58 pm at 7:58 pm |
  14. Four and The Door

    "Here's how it works. They're going to give your mom or your dad – when they become eligible, or even if they are eligible – they're going to give you a voucher, which is essentially a coupon. And it's going to be worth X amount of dollars. And they're going to say to your mom, 'Mom, go out there in that insurance market and bargain for the best deal you can get, including if you want to buy Medicare.' But if it costs more than the…benefits you're now getting, they say, 'Mom go borrow it somewhere.'"
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________
    Hardly the case. Paul Ryan's bipartisan plan gives seniors another option to the system today which pays the same for lousy care as it does for excellent care. An option. Change to the new plan or stick with what you get now. Here's the catch. The government will pay 100% of the premiums from the second least expensive plan. But if seniors want the least expensive plan what happens to the extra money? The senior keeps it. Health care providers however will have to compete for your business on quality of care and cost. They have incentives to give excellent, lower cost care. Imagine that. But for those seniors who don't want to use this system? Stay with the old system. But if they do that, probably they don't care any more about quality or cost than Obama or Joe Biden.

    September 8, 2012 08:01 pm at 8:01 pm |
  15. Obama2012

    Can't wait to see the collapse of the GOP after this election...

    September 8, 2012 08:06 pm at 8:06 pm |
  16. w l jones

    I can agree with VP Biden because Alien can understand English language but they would need somebody other than an Republican to explain why they did not have an economic plan for the America people. Bless.

    September 8, 2012 08:08 pm at 8:08 pm |
  17. Dan B

    If you dropped down from Mars and watched the DNC, you would think Biden knows what he is talking about. I don't know why Obama would have ever chosen him. He can't even make 1 speech without sounding like he has the intelligence of a fifth grader.

    September 8, 2012 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  18. Pete

    Joe Bidens laughing at the republicans,when yah come in second to Honey Boo Boo show two nights in a row,you can't do anything but laugh,right nitwits!!Try again in four years if there's a republican party!!

    September 8, 2012 08:54 pm at 8:54 pm |
  19. Mike

    The republicans say he was wrong, but I can't find where they said he was. Also I am still waiting for their plan to be outlined. They say they want to make things better, my question is for who?

    September 8, 2012 08:57 pm at 8:57 pm |
  20. justin

    did you notice the romneyt rebuttle to biden contained not a single actual dispute of the facts he mentioned?

    September 8, 2012 09:13 pm at 9:13 pm |
  21. Ancient Texan

    Romney explained his policy plans.....Obama babbled about his "goals" for the future, but NOTHING specific...PERIOD!

    September 8, 2012 09:16 pm at 9:16 pm |
  22. hesea

    Biden when fact checked the most frequently in accurate person asdie from debbie wasserman Schultz

    September 8, 2012 09:19 pm at 9:19 pm |
  23. Dan5404

    Funny how Romney said the GOP is fact che king Biden, but didn't offer a specific case of lying.

    September 8, 2012 09:36 pm at 9:36 pm |
  24. sayer

    What Ryan-Romney plan?

    September 8, 2012 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  25. tammyk tammy

    I will NOT be lining up to vote for Vulture/Voucher who represent the party who have aimed their efforts at destroying the middle class. No reasonable person could expect President Obama to clean up the giant pile of doo doo left by Dubya, Cheney, and Wall Street. Have patience America. OBAMA offers hope and change for the middle class of America.

    September 8, 2012 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
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