Pennsylvania voter ID law sent back to lower court
September 18th, 2012
03:33 PM ET
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Pennsylvania voter ID law sent back to lower court

(CNN) - The Pennsylvania Supreme Court sent a controversial voter ID law back to a lower court Tuesday to assess the availability of alternative forms of identification and whether the new law disenfranchises voters.

The high court said the state's Commonwealth Court has until October 2 to file its supplemental opinion, according to court documents.

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  1. HOLY TIGHTY WHITIES WILLARD

    Yes the law disenfranchises voters. I would have preferred to see the SCOPA toss the law out completely. The Pennsylvania Secretary of State clearly stated that this law was put in place to help Robmey STEAL the election. TOSS THE LAW OUT!!!

    September 18, 2012 03:39 pm at 3:39 pm |
  2. truth hurts

    It appears protecting the integrity of the voting process is NOT in the Democrats best interests. Why are they fighting to keep a system that is so blatantly open to fraud and illegal voting? If we cannot defend and protect our borders, SURELY we can defend and protect the integrity of the voting booth!!

    September 18, 2012 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  3. Sniffit

    "It appears protecting the integrity of the voting process is NOT in the Democrats best interests. Why are they fighting to keep a system that is so blatantly open to fraud and illegal voting? If we cannot defend and protect our borders, SURELY we can defend and protect the integrity of the voting booth!!"

    Zero evidence of fraud and illegal voting means that the system's integrity is just fine without these laws. In fact, the evidence of people being disenfranchised and left without a vote is proof that these laws are the actual threat to the integrity of the system. But hey, you go on with your doublethink grounded in demonstrable falsehoods and ideological magic thinking...it's obviously like a binky for you.

    September 18, 2012 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  4. Sniffit

    ""Overall, we are confronted with an ambitious effort on the part of the General Assembly to bring the new identification procedure into effect within a relatively short time frame and an implementation process which has by no means been seamless in light of the serious operational constraints faced by the executive branch,""

    DUH. They passed these things around the country at the last minute...including other laws to restrict early voting and voter registration drives...for the very simple reason that what the PA court said is true: pass it at the last minute, implementation wil be poor and ooodles of voters that the GOP doesn't want voting will "slip through the cracks"...all while it's "hopefully" too late in the game for anyone to do anything about it.

    September 18, 2012 04:04 pm at 4:04 pm |
  5. Rudy NYC

    @truth hurts – Give it up. Even PA officials cannot produce any evidence of voter fraud over the past decade and beyond. Furthermore, the state of PA has a serious problem. They cannot produce enough IDs in time, even if they wanted to. BTW, how does an ID stop fraud that might be committed through absentee ballots?

    The solution is a national voting standard for national elecitons. Every voter in every state should be on a level playing field with every other voter in every other state.

    September 18, 2012 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  6. Truth's a Good Hurt, Though

    There is no evidence of anything resembling

    September 18, 2012 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  7. Sniffit

    "OMG, THERE'S ELEPHANTS HIDING IN THE STRAWBERRY PATCH!!!!!!!"

    "Woah, woah...calm down...how do you know?"

    "BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND ANY ELEPHANTS IN THE STRAWBERRY PATCH!!!"

    September 18, 2012 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  8. Truth's a Good Hurt, Though

    There is no evidence of anything resembling a meaningful or legitimate case of voter fraud that even remotely comes close to nearly touching at a distance an influence upon a single polling station, let alone an entire precinct or state.

    September 18, 2012 04:08 pm at 4:08 pm |
  9. the REAL TRUTH...

    It appears that the justice system has figured out that the non – existent voter fraud the Repug's are insisting is happening REALLY is non-existent and a means to dis-enfrachising predominantly Dem voters.

    September 18, 2012 04:11 pm at 4:11 pm |
  10. GI Joe

    There has been no voter fraud.

    WHY NOW? Why not two or three years ago?

    September 18, 2012 04:14 pm at 4:14 pm |
  11. judy

    repos trying to steal another election. Slimey mitt and paulie could not win in a fair election. Vote all repos out Forward 2012

    September 18, 2012 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  12. HOLY TIGHTY WHITIES WILLARD

    Why are they fighting to keep a system that is so blatantly open to fraud and illegal voting? If we cannot defend and protect our borders, SURELY we can defend and protect the integrity of the voting booth!!
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    Please show me proof where voter fraud exists. Pretty please. You got a bunch of Teatards training to watch the polls. For what? That sounds like voter intimidation to me.

    September 18, 2012 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  13. WV OLD TIMER

    What fraud,you dufass. You must know one of the ten people out of millions who were thought to be fraudulent. How any one in their right mind, pun intended, can't admit that such laws are transparent in their suppression of the poor and aged is beyond belief. Oh well,courts will eventually correct the wrong and expose just the latest of many efforts by the now badly trailing "right".

    September 18, 2012 04:20 pm at 4:20 pm |
  14. Vote the Tea Party OUT in 2012

    ok so just HOW many cases of voter fraud have been found in the state of Penn and in the US totally? And just why NOW have the Republicans decided to try and change voter id laws for the 2012 election...not the 2010 or during the Bush election years? Just asking........

    September 18, 2012 04:25 pm at 4:25 pm |
  15. DENNA

    @ – truth hurts – It appears protecting the integrity of the voting process is NOT in the Democrats best interests. Why are they fighting to keep a system that is so blatantly open to fraud and illegal voting? If we cannot defend and protect our borders, SURELY we can defend and protect the integrity of the voting booth!!
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    Sigh. Let me patiently explain this to you "truth hurts". This law has one purpose and one only – keep voters friendly to the Democrats from voting. This law is an even bigger fraud than the one PA claims is running rampant. If the Repubicans had actually thought Barack Obama would win, they would have tried this bit of chicanery four years ago. Understand now?

    September 18, 2012 04:31 pm at 4:31 pm |
  16. Marie MD

    @truth(maybe some day you will wake up smart, half smart?) – there is no proof of thousand of voter fraud problems. There were a handful not even worth mentioning.
    Your party of heck no is trying to keep Americans from voting which is our right as citizens of this country to elect our officials! Is this really that hard for you to understand?
    I truly hope that the courts in Pennsylvania, which has turned into the new Alabama, maybe Mississippi of the north, reverse this un American and illegal voter suppression. It takes an older American voter over four hours and coming back twice to get a photo ID. These is happening not just to black voters. It's also happening to white voters that are Democrats or voted for the President in 2008. After what their rep said about giving the twit Pennsylvania how can anyone think it's not agains the law? Their own politicians? Wake up people in PA!!!!!

    September 18, 2012 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  17. The Real Tom Paine

    -truth hurts

    It appears protecting the integrity of the voting process is NOT in the Democrats best interests. Why are they fighting to keep a system that is so blatantly open to fraud and illegal voting? If we cannot defend and protect our borders, SURELY we can defend and protect the integrity of the voting booth!!
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    A law should only exist if there is a definite need for it, and the widespread votor fraud this is supposed to prevent does not and has not existed( exepct when it has benefitted the GOP, ie, Ohio 2004). I would have thought a conservative would be against another needless law on the books, unless there is political advantage in it: then, I guess you are completely in favor of it. Your partisanship and tunnel vision are as nauseating as your lack of patriotism.

    September 18, 2012 04:53 pm at 4:53 pm |
  18. Anonymous

    @truth

    Just because you have a certain bigotry against certain voters doesn't mean they ought not be allowed to vote. I don't particularly like you but feel very sure that even YOU ought be allowed to vote without restriction. It is what makes this country of ours so great. Or did anyway.

    September 18, 2012 04:58 pm at 4:58 pm |
  19. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Seems to most of us that the new laws they are trying to put in place create the exact problem they claim they're supposed to fix.
    What the hell?!

    September 18, 2012 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |
  20. once upon a horse

    there is nothing wrong with showing a photo ID...I show my DL here in Texas every time I vote...the issue is they are making it even HARDER to get a photo ID so those who don't have one can vote. Many elderly or lower income people cannot afford the 20plus dollars it may take to get a birth certificate, a marriage certificate or some of the other stuff they now want you to have where at one time your voter registration card was all you needed. Case in point here in Texas a gun owners permit is acceptable id but a student id is NOT in order to vote. Now you tell me who is more than likely to own a firearm a Democrat or a Republican as compared to who might be a college student. After all even Rick Santorum said going to college made you a "snob"!

    September 18, 2012 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |
  21. Katherine

    And when did we ever have a need to defend voting rights in this country, except when bush stole the election from Gore in Florida. It's really a shame that you have to change laws so that you can win a race... tells it all. The funny thing is, though, that I doubt seriously that republicans will win this race even if the new laws were implemented in EVERY state, lol!

    September 18, 2012 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |