The economy looms large for Biden
October 11th, 2012
06:12 PM ET
2 years ago

The economy looms large for Biden

Danville, Kentucky (CNN) - Vice President Joe Biden's primary goal in Thursday's debate is to make the president's case on the economy and tie Mitt Romney to the Ryan budget, according to multiple Democratic sources.

Top Democrats said it's important to remind viewers that Rep. Paul Ryan is "the intellectual leader of the House Republicans," especially given polling that shows members of Congress from both parties are not especially popular.

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"Romney has called the Ryan budget a marvelous budget," Democratic surrogate and former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland told CNN in Danville Thursday. "It's devastating to the middle class and I hope the vice president allows Ryan to have sufficient time to explain to us what deductions they'd get rid of."

Strickland was referring to the Romney-Ryan fiscal plan that calls for changes in tax deductions. The GOP ticket has not specified which deductions they'd eliminate and Democrats suggest they'd have to eliminate popular policies like the home mortgage deduction that would impact middle class voters, to meet their bottom line.

According to Democrats, one of the vice president's challenges Thursday night will be to simultaneously push Ryan to talk policy details - usually a comfort zone for the congressman - while keeping the discussion broad enough to connect with voters.

Also expect the vice president to look for an opening to bring up Romney's hidden camera talk about the 47%, Strickland said.

"I hope he brings up the 47%," the former governor said. "It's out there. It is the quiet noise in the background, overshadowing everything because Gov. Romney spoke from the heart" with those remarks.


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  1. Borderless

    Let's look at the math, shall we Racist Joe? Let's see, you came into office with 7.8% unemployment and unemployment is now at...7.8%. But at least you shifted the job market over to lower paying unskilled jobs.
    Seriously, other than name calling and false accusations against his opponent, what does Racist Joe bring to the table?

    October 11, 2012 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  2. Rick McDaniel

    The economy is a DISASTER!

    Biden can't handle that, in any way, shape, or form.

    October 11, 2012 06:27 pm at 6:27 pm |
  3. Borderless

    Counting the minutes until I get to watch Obama's Ministry of Propaganda Stephanie "Saeed" Cutter try to put a positive spin on Racist Joe's epic fail tonight. I'm making popcorn!

    October 11, 2012 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
  4. Four and The Door

    Vice President Joe Biden's primary goal in Thursday's debate is to make the president's case on the economy and tie Mitt Romney to the Ryan budget, according to multiple Democratic sources.
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    The Ryan budget is brilliant. It finally shows a glimpse of hope for the middle class. Where's the Obama budget?!?!

    October 11, 2012 06:33 pm at 6:33 pm |
  5. Sniffit

    "Let's see, you came into office with 7.8% unemployment and unemployment is now at...7.8%."

    I was going to comment about the blind leading the blind in reference to calling Ryan the "intellectual leader" of, well, anything, but now I don't need to since you just proved the Teatroll game of ignoring anything inconvenient and simply rattling off superficial numbers that don't mean anything without a closer look. The change in TRAJECTORY is what's important. The fact that you superficially rely on the 7.8% being the same while intentionally overlooking the massive difference in trajectory Obama has achieved is simply evidence that you DO know it's there and are desperate to whitewash it because you DO know that the numbers are good for Obama. If you stop tipping your hand by attacking it so much, you won't draw peoples' attention to explanations like mine that make you look foolish and dishonest for trying to only tell less than half the story.

    October 11, 2012 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  6. Economic Democracy Now

    I will only believe this nation is no longer racist if Obama is re-elected.

    October 11, 2012 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  7. don in albuquerque

    You know even the Catholic Church came out against Lyin Ryans plan. Hope for the middle class-give me a break. This is the guy and ran from a bunch of nuns protesting his economic plan. The Repugs promise you nothing but a return to the policies that brought this country to near economic ruin and promise to return it to the same and probably worse. Oh and throw in a war or two to help their buddies. One more thing. "Borderless", your title should be clueless. Accusing Joe of being racist? Your post shows you are the one with a problem here. Truth hurt?

    October 11, 2012 06:51 pm at 6:51 pm |
  8. DEMOCRATS ARE IN FACT THE BIGGEST TAX CHEATS AROUND. Timothy Geithner THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.

    The fact is the jobs report is a LIE.

    A big state was left out and it may have been California.

    IT's this administration that is lying to the people. ANOTHER lie being Benghazi.

    LIES LIES LIES

    October 11, 2012 06:53 pm at 6:53 pm |
  9. Four and The Door

    Economic Democracy Now
    I will only believe this nation is no longer racist if Obama is re-elected.
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    You could say the same thing about Romney being elected. But let's make this election about solving the nation's issues. Really, they are big enough to warrant that consideration. We can do better.

    October 11, 2012 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  10. Borderless

    "I will only believe this nation is no longer racist if Obama is re-elected."
    I believe you, and that's a problem. This is just social blackmail and it would be funny if it wasn't such a widespread problem in this country. Pathetic and wrong.

    October 11, 2012 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  11. CBR

    First, is it truly necessary to start a comment by using such negativity? If we cannot have a civilized discourse here then where will be able to do that. Let's debate.

    In many area the economy is not great. Those who do not have jobs or who are underemployed are having a very difficult time. Are we making sure that we help these people to make it through this downturn? Are those who have so much willing to help those who do not? The economy is moving forward, slowly but it is getting better. Go to any big box store and see what people are buying. Go to the Casinos and see that the parking lots are full. There are companies hiring and ready to rev up manufacturing. People are flying, riding the train, and going by bus as they travel. Gas stations are still busy. Our students have returned to college albeit with grants or scholarships. Our children are starting a new school year. Restaurants are coming back. Folks are going to the movies – attendance at some movies has broken all records.

    There are some good things happening as well. Health insurance is available for those with pre-existing conditions. Children have health insurance. Medicare is here as is social security. The World Series will be played. The NFL and AFL are playing their games in front of thousands of fans and even more fans watching at home. The Pell Grants are still available. Congress is still getting paid even though very little work has been done. Representatives and Senators still have their perks, their flights paid for to go back home, their staffs, their offices, etc. all paid for by the taxpayers.

    We entered 2009 with a deficit. We are in a war that was never financed. Companies received contracts without bidding for them – Haliburton for one. The top 15 in our country are able to contribute to pacs and no one knows they have done so. Those same pacs are able to purchase ad time for candidates and to help candidates by making ads that will play on television. Networks, TV stations, etc. will make huge profits by playing these ads.

    October 11, 2012 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  12. DEMOCRATS ARE IN FACT THE BIGGEST TAX CHEATS AROUND. Timothy Geithner THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.

    Hussein Obama extended Haliburtons contract. When presented with that fact demcorats either ignore it or lie about it and that in itself is a fact.

    October 11, 2012 07:08 pm at 7:08 pm |
  13. Borderless

    Racist Joe's son says that what America loves about him are his gaffes? They are so bad and some of them so racist I can't even repeat them here without violating CNN's Rules of Conduct. No, sorry. Racism is not cute.

    October 11, 2012 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  14. DEMOCRATS ARE IN FACT THE BIGGEST TAX CHEATS AROUND. Timothy Geithner THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.

    Bring up the 47%. Something Romney has already even admitted he shouldn't of said (unlike your messiah that could NEVER admit doing anything wrong).

    Ryan will bring up the massive lies and coverup about Benghazi.

    October 11, 2012 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  15. BinaryTooth

    Heck with the politicians, the economy looms even larger for average Americans.

    October 11, 2012 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  16. California Gary

    CBR........what are you doing? You can't just go around introducing facts and reasoned thinking into a debate with Tea Party folks.......that's just not fair.

    October 11, 2012 07:30 pm at 7:30 pm |
  17. Vladimir

    Obama vs Biden will win this election. R. R don't have plan at all:(:(::(.

    October 11, 2012 07:39 pm at 7:39 pm |
  18. DumbasRocks [R]s

    OK, focus now. Here are the two primary economic facts that are undebatable (unless of course one wants to LIE some more):

    – We are currently NOT in the 2nd [R]-caused economic Depression of the last century, saved by Obama's economic policies since 2009.
    – The current [R] economic plan is to promote the VERY SAME policies that shot this country towards the economic cliff in 2008.

    Sorry, but unless you are a 4 year-old that likes to repeatedly burn yourself on hot stoves, Biden wins the economic debate.

    October 11, 2012 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  19. Z-man

    I think the formal Govn is right...give Mr.Ryan all time he needs to explain his budget

    October 11, 2012 08:04 pm at 8:04 pm |
  20. Borderless

    Let's focus now.

    – Obama's policies took a 7.8% unemployment rate and left us with a 7.8% unemployment rate but with the job market radically shifted to low paying unskilled labor.
    – Obama's plan going forward is to create economic conditions that are toxic to business growth and development causing business to outsource much of their work.

    Sorry, but unless you are only interested in regurgitation of the Democrat party fail, Ryan wins the debate.

    October 11, 2012 08:12 pm at 8:12 pm |