Biden accuses Romney camp of 'outrageous lie'
October 31st, 2012
04:00 PM ET
1 year ago

Biden accuses Romney camp of 'outrageous lie'

Sarasota, Florida (CNN) - On a day that saw the return to presidential campaigning – with positive, more subdued messages amid Superstorm Sandy's aftermath – Vice President Joe Biden stood out for intensity: charging harder than usual against his Republican opponents after a widely criticized and disputed claim from the Romney campaign.

During a campaign event in Sarasota, Florida, Biden raged against a fresh Romney ad, accusing the GOP nominee of "desperation in the last hours of this campaign," "trying to scare the living devil" out of voters, and of pushing "an outrageous lie."

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At issue: an assertion from Team Romney that's sparked so much controversy in the closing days of the election that a chorus of newspapers and generally politically-shy car executives have weighed in.

The claim from first a TV ad and then one on radio: that President Obama's actions in the auto bailout caused carmaker Jeep to move the manufacture of Jeeps to China costing domestic jobs. And that GM is also building new vehicles in China as well, also at the expense of American jobs. Over the past few days, Chrysler executives have rolled out multiple statements essentially labeling it false as have GM executives.

Biden, along with former president Bill Clinton, hit back against the claim during a rally in Youngstown, Ohio, on Monday.

But not with the gusto he did at Wednesday's event, thundering at length.

"They are running the most scurrilous ad in Ohio.… one of the most flagrantly dishonest ads I can ever remember in my political career," Biden said.

"It's an outrageous lie. A lie, a lie that is so deceptive and so patently untrue that the Chrysler corporation, including the chairman of the board of Chrysler, they actually spoke up."

"They don't want to get involved in presidential politics but they spoke up they said quote-I'm going to quote, 'a leap that will be difficult even for professional circus acrobats,'" Biden added.

"Why would they do this?" Biden said of the Romney campaign. "Why would they do this in the face of the overwhelming facts contradicting them?"

He then attempted to answer his own question.

"I'll tell you why I think they're doing it. They're trying to scare the living devil out of a group of people who have been hurt so badly over the last, because of the previous four years we came to office."

And in a twist, Biden essentially said the scare tactics are working with Ohio autoworkers.

"These are auto workers waking up, waking up in their communities, just a couple of days ago to see this ad and guess what: they were calling, thousands of them were calling their UAW [United Auto Worker] reps, 'Is it true? Is it true? Is Jeep really going to leave? Is the announcement they made true? Are they going to shut down our plant?'" Biden said.

"What a cynical, cynical thing to do."

"To go out and try to scare these people for electoral reasons at the end, to say something that's so untrue," Biden added. "Look, Jeep is doing fine. Jeep is going to do even better. They're going to grow and like I said Jeep isn't cutting jobs they're adding jobs."

The Romney campaign was asked to respond to the vice president's statement that the ad is an "outrageous lie."

"We've got an ad out that we believe makes the case for why Gov. Romney would be stronger for the auto industry and why the auto industry's an important part of a strong economy," Romney spokesman Kevin Madden told reporters traveling with the campaign.

"They've got an ad that they're using to make their case to the public, and we'll leave that with voters."

Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan commented in a separate statement distributed to reporters.

"American taxpayers are on track to lose $25 billion as a result of President Obama's handling of the auto bailout, and GM and Chrysler are expanding their production overseas," Ryan said. "These are facts that voters deserve to know as they listen to the claims President Obama and his campaign are making. President Obama has chosen not to run on the facts of his record, but he can't run from them."

Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan challenged Biden's assertions about the bailout by referring to it as an "unqualified success story."

"President Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy, taxpayers still stand to lose $25 billion dollars in the president's politically managed bankruptcy. These companies, Chrysler in particular we know this story, are now choosing to expand manufacturing overseas. These are the facts. Those facts are inconvenient for the president but no one disputes them," the Wisconsin lawmaker said at a rally in his congressional district.

Ryan said 610,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost since Obama came into office, and in the last two months, 10,000 lost jobs came from the auto sector. He pointed to employees of shuttered auto plants in his home state and Ohio who faced significant cuts to their pensions when government intervened in 2009.

The auto bailout looms large in Ohio. Many voters there either work for the industry or otherwise have ties to it. Many have cited Romney's opposition to the bailout – and his now famous 2008 op-ed titled "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" – as a possible reason he's frequently trailed President Obama in Ohio polls, although recently by small margins.

– CNN Political Producer Shawna Shepherd contributed to this report.


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soundoff (98 Responses)
  1. jeff odette

    The repubs are finished. ALL of them. Romney and your family.....GO AWAY

    October 31, 2012 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  2. Pete

    @Phil,four and door,this ignorent ,uncaring ad is going to backfire on you arrogent, ignorent republicans mark my words,this pathelogical liar is over stepping his bounds and if weren't for politics he'd be sued for it in court as well..Don't talk about the president lying when its been your republican reps since day one of this administration that have obstructed and ignored the plight of the American citizen to make this president,our first African-American one a one termer,remember Mitch McConnell speech on the senate floor,l never forget!!And republicans you all know you're racists as well and don't deny it because its been your MO since Pres.Obama inaugeration,grow up and take responsibility where responsibility is due,your Bush idiot created this mess and democrates as usual always get to clean up your messes,both economic,foriegn policy wise as well.It's historic how blantantly ignorent you republicans are in voting for failures from Hoover to the Bushs with Romney waiting in the wings,but its your party that'll eventually go extinct from lack of interest because republicans are dropping like flies from the republican roll calls,just check how many vote Pres.Obama and have a different voter ID,if I were republican I'd be embarrased if I were you!!

    October 31, 2012 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  3. Four and The Door

    rs
    Four and The Door-
    You are a pathetic researcher! Jeep ISN'T MOVING TO CHINA. Both the cchairman of Chrysler and Fiat have said so.
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________
    Never said they were. Yet. But regardless of that, are you seriously using what the Chrysler executives say in public as proof of anything? You don't know much about how large company executives treat public announcements , do you? The fact is, their plans are to migrate volume production where it makes sense. And in Obama's anti-business environment it makes less and less sense to do that kind of business in the US. Very expensive and taxed higher than anywhere in the developed world. Of course they are migrating out. Of course they are the last ones to confirm that.

    October 31, 2012 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  4. www.twitter.com/hlmelsaid

    Scare the living devil.

    October 31, 2012 05:40 pm at 5:40 pm |
  5. rs

    Four and The Door

    rs
    Four and The Door-
    Sure, the GOP stands against unions, retirement benefits, health benefits, and even the minimum wage. Why in God's name would any blue collar worker vote for them?
    THINK!
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________
    Apparently you buy the full tub of Obama/ Biden 2012 baloney. Even after the middle class has been pummeled like it has during Obama's 4 years, you suck it up and what? Ask for more? Look a little deeper than your Democratic mail and you will see that all working people will do better under a Romney Administration. More take-home pay. More higher paying jobs. Better health benefits ( from the guy who invented universal health care in the US ). And better retirement. All of the above take a hit when Obama is in Washington. Look at his results. Not very good, huh?
    ________________________________
    And your proof? The middle class retraction began under Reagan, and only slowed under Clinton. Republicans are only good for the rich.

    October 31, 2012 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  6. amlcpamaine

    So what's new? Romney has been a pathological liar his whole life, sanctioned by the Mormon Church with its 'Lie for the Lord' upbringing. I saw it in person when he was at Bain and exploited my employer during its sale – raided the employee retirement fund and sold out the stockholders while enriching Bain. It's doesn't do any good to call Romney a liar because he's had an entire life of getting his own way, surrounding himself with people who bend over and yes him to death, and getting away with saying anything he wants. The country deserves better.

    October 31, 2012 05:43 pm at 5:43 pm |
  7. rs

    Four and The Door

    rs
    Four and The Door-
    You are a pathetic researcher! Jeep ISN'T MOVING TO CHINA. Both the cchairman of Chrysler and Fiat have said so.
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________
    Never said they were. Yet. But regardless of that, are you seriously using what the Chrysler executives say in public as proof of anything? You don't know much about how large company executives treat public announcements , do you? The fact is, their plans are to migrate volume production where it makes sense. And in Obama's anti-business environment it makes less and less sense to do that kind of business in the US. Very expensive and taxed higher than anywhere in the developed world. Of course they are migrating out. Of course they are the last ones to confirm that.
    _________________________________
    Ummm, well, yeah. I would think the Chrysler Chairman would be a somewhat more verifiable news source than Bloomberg, or heven forbid Romney the Lyin King.

    October 31, 2012 05:45 pm at 5:45 pm |
  8. Shannon

    The auto makers themselves have come out and said Romney is lying, what kind of person votes for a man like this. Is there a Republican out there with any integrity

    October 31, 2012 05:45 pm at 5:45 pm |
  9. JC

    Joe "The Clown" Biden should apply for a job at Comedy Central.

    October 31, 2012 05:46 pm at 5:46 pm |
  10. JC

    I won't trust my life with this man let alone my country.

    October 31, 2012 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  11. amlcpamaine

    Four and The Door – your posting is all lies. Every credible source shows that the USA is a great place for business and that the corporate tax rate is competitive with other major markets. And the corporate tax rate has been FALLING for over 10 years and the collections are WAY DOWN as internationals park overseas-generated profits to try and lobby for even more breaks. Every legitimate economist knows this. Your posting is so blatantly dishonest that I suspect you're on Romney's payroll and suggest you ask him for a raise. He's got the money and should pay you more for putting your name on such stupidity on his behalf. You must be his least clever paid shill.

    October 31, 2012 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  12. Harry

    There are republicans who really believe that Mitt Romney has the power to turn on a switch and suddenly new jobs will appear and the economy will instantly turn around. Remember those who drank the koolaid in Jones-town? The pied piper of Hamlin – that's who the real Romney is all about.The gullible will follow because they believe in fairy tales.

    October 31, 2012 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  13. gius

    There's something a little strange about this Romney guy.There's more in his closet than those tax returns! Did anyone notice he had a sort of "thirsting"look when he was looking at Obama in the last debate?

    October 31, 2012 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  14. JC

    Obama lies while Joe "The Clown Biden smiles.

    October 31, 2012 05:48 pm at 5:48 pm |
  15. JC

    We let a Trojan Horse inside our country. Those that were inside it are now running the government.

    October 31, 2012 05:51 pm at 5:51 pm |
  16. rs

    Four-
    Is it me, or are you and the GOP in denial.

    Really- first its the media you can't trust (the Palin so-called "Lame Stream Media"). The the polls- all skewed. Now you prefer the Right media over the corporation's head. Then this nonsesnse that the GOP actually is "good" for the middle class?! Come on.

    You better not need a drugs test anytime soon.

    October 31, 2012 05:52 pm at 5:52 pm |
  17. johnnysangel30

    HAVE MERCY four & the door..looks like u spoke as u shouldn't n this room full of libersls. All they know are lies so they can't imagine that this ad wouldn't b 1! Heaven 4bid they do research themselves. They just follow blindly this pres.that's destroying our great country! I do wish the repubs couldve gotten a stronger candidate than Romney, but there wasn't 1. The question here is "which is the greater of 2 evils?" Its CLEAR that Obama has done nothing but triple our deficit, pass a health care bill that is not only crippling, but unconstitutional. He has utterly destroyed or national image as a STRONG country n2 one that bows down begs 4 acceptance from oothers. By trying 2 buy the "frienship" of Muslim nations that hate us(e.g.Egypt, Syrian, Libya, & even Turkey. he borrows Trillions only to give Millions to countries that would destroy us @ a second if they thought they could. Even my 5 yr. Old niece knows she shouldn't give $ 2 sum1 if she still owes $ 2 sum1 else! gimme a break!

    October 31, 2012 05:56 pm at 5:56 pm |
  18. Four and The Door

    rs
    The middle class retraction began under Reagan, and only slowed under Clinton. Republicans are only good for the rich.
    __________________________________________________________________________________________
    The last 4 years have been the worst for the middle class since the 1920's and 30's. A vote for Obama is absolutely a slap in the face for the middle class. Bankers, Wall Street and Foreclosure lawyers love him. And laugh at people who still insist he's any good for the middle class. Just look around yourself. You do live in America, right?!?!

    October 31, 2012 05:57 pm at 5:57 pm |
  19. Eric J

    Of course GM, Ford, and Chrysler are expanding overseas. There is a market in China for cars, as well as Europe. THose markets have always received different vehicles than we have. Some cars are considered "Global Cars" and they are the ones that are more cost effective in terms of what companies spend to market and sell vehicles in all markets. The Ford Focus is one example of a global vehicle. The problem with the statement is this; Yes, American Car companies are building factories overseas, but it is to build vehicles for the markets there. Europe has long had smaller more fuel efficient cars. Their roads are also more narrow than us and their tastes are different. For example, in Germany, the Volkswagen Group couldn't understand why Americans needed so many cupholders in our cars. In Germany, they do not drink beverages, on the whole, while they drive or engage in distractions while driving. Their attitude is completely different when it concerns cars and driving. The same thing can be said for China. There is a group of people with money in their emerging markets to spend money on cars and companies will seize upon that.
    To use this information and twist it is incorrect. Especially when what they are saying is patently false, regarding American jobs going overseas. It doesn't help that Executives caught this lie and have to worry about profit margins here. There is more to telling an outright lie, than just twisting the truth. People will lose trust in buying American cars, something that would and has stimulated the economy. So the results of this ad could be potentially more disasterous than first expected.

    October 31, 2012 05:58 pm at 5:58 pm |
  20. Jeetu.

    Fromm Romney's own ad, it is clear that what he is saying is not true. This and all other lies in the past make him unfit to be POTUS and hence we must vote for Obama for POTUS and other democrats for the House and Senate seats. I know I will and would love to have you join me in this important election.

    October 31, 2012 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  21. vboni

    This has got to be the worse and dirtiest politics I have ever seen or heard of. Romney should be ashamed to say he approves of this latest lie to the folks from Ohio. These folks have suffered enough and to say the auto Jeep industry is being sent overseas to folks that are so vulnerable is incomprehensible. What kind of folks are running his campaign. This is a man that is an out right LIAR. I cannot fathom him as President. He lies to us, he will lie to the world leaders which can result in amazing damage that we may not be able to get out of. It does not take much for some of these countries to look at military options. Romney /Ryan is the scariest team I have ever seen. Please Republicans WAKE UP.

    October 31, 2012 06:13 pm at 6:13 pm |
  22. don in albuquerque

    Four and the Door–So now the GM of Chrysler is lying along with everybody else in the country and MittWitt is the only god fearing person telling the truth. Don't think so, but nice try. MittWitt started lying the instant this race started and has not stopped since.

    October 31, 2012 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  23. RogueRobots

    Who's the LIAR WITH HIS PANTS ON FIRE here – Romney the Vulture Capitalist presidential wanna-be or the CEOs of the auto industry? Personally, I think that when CEOs come out against a Repug in favor of a Democrat, you gotta believe they're telling the truth. We're also hearing TRUTH from Colin Powell who endorsed the Prez and from Gov Christie who has been finally willing to allow Obama to reach across the aisle in bipartisan cooperation to help Americans dealing with this disaster. Even Gingrinch and InSanatorium helped O by pointing out in the primaries that devious, lying, flip-flop Romneyhood was the worst choice candidate. Think of what could have been accomplished for all Americans left swirling down the drain by the Bush economic disaster without the GOTP stonewalling and backstabbing. Jobs Act anyone? There's no reaching across the aisle where the other side is constantly giving you the finger and then blaming you for the consequences of what they refuse to do. That is the TRUTH!!!!

    October 31, 2012 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  24. DownInIt

    Just more proof that Rmoney will do anything and say anything however untrue just win an election. Does this man have any principles?

    October 31, 2012 06:52 pm at 6:52 pm |
  25. al in memphis

    Don't we all wish for the day when brain and heart surgery will follow the same ethics as these campaign ads.
    The really bad things is that there is an expectation that voters will actually believe the half-truths. That's like giving a rat a yellow turd to see if it thinks it cheese. That really tells you what they think of your level of intelligence.

    But I guess that okay with some of you based on these posts. After all, the voters are the rats and the corporation are the American People

    October 31, 2012 06:53 pm at 6:53 pm |
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