Fiscal cliff: Boehner's opening gambit
November 7th, 2012
07:44 PM ET
2 years ago

Fiscal cliff: Boehner's opening gambit

New York (CNNMoney) - There's a big difference between raising tax rates and raising tax revenue. And the distinction may prove key in fiscal cliff negotiations between House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama over the next two months.

Boehner on Wednesday laid out in public his opening gambit for that deal-making.

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  1. ronb

    You've got two years to show us that you can control your caucus and get things done for this country. Compromise on the debt, sign off on the jobs bill, sign off on veterans employment, drop the anti-abortion/legitimate rape nonsense, and work with the President. OR, there will be hell to pay in midterm elections!!!

    November 7, 2012 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  2. Observer

    Tax revenue hmmm. So has he got in mind to screw over?

    November 7, 2012 08:00 pm at 8:00 pm |
  3. Sorensen

    Welcome to the death spiral of the GOP. Just watch them commit public suicide over the next 6 months.
    By the way, as long as McConnell and Boehner are there, the GOP will never win anything.. Never.

    November 7, 2012 08:03 pm at 8:03 pm |
  4. Scar1

    And i agree when Whites want to change the rules they come up with terms to frighten others away like fiscal cliff. No, the drop was created under George Bush, Sr. then George Bush, Jr got in to cover Daddy and then Clinton did blackjack move and got us back on track with surplus. But dumb GOP too angry with Bill to realize hey this man is good. So, now they got a real cliff experience they cannot handle.

    November 7, 2012 08:17 pm at 8:17 pm |
  5. Gurgyl

    GOP better realize this is EARTH PLANET. They better come down to earth and COOPERATE WITH PRESIDENT. Otherwise they will be dethrone like dogs. They better Change. GOP is in biggest MESS.

    November 7, 2012 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  6. Scar1

    They covered a lie with a lie and got caught in their own dung so now it is a fiscal cliff. Okay throw the rope down and crawl your ass to the bottom and pull us back up.

    November 7, 2012 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  7. NameCharles Shiflett

    They need to get rid of this man, mutany, he's part of the Republican's problem

    November 7, 2012 08:39 pm at 8:39 pm |
  8. Ed FL

    Boehner can not remember what he said 5 minutes after. Cigars and hooch have affected those faculties of his.

    November 7, 2012 08:45 pm at 8:45 pm |
  9. jt35

    let us not forget, this hypocrite stated he got "95%" of what he wanted with the sequester. those were his words. so whatever happens is a result of the failed policies and strategy of the republican congressmen and senators to try to screw obama. now, it's coming back to bite them... don't fall for it america.

    November 7, 2012 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  10. MANUEL

    What do you do when you are helping your friends financially and you got into financial difficulties? You talk to them and let them know that you cannot help them for a while; well that is exactly what the President needs to do, stop helping all the "friend" countries for the next four years and use that money to help with the deficit.

    November 7, 2012 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  11. MANUEL

    Cap welfare to 60 months and keep track of it. If you are getting goverment help but you are not working because you don't want to work or feel that the goverment have to take care of you, you get 60 months max to get yourself in gear after that you are on your own. If you get yourself in gear in 20 months, great! you have 40 months left if you ever lose your job again.

    November 7, 2012 08:53 pm at 8:53 pm |
  12. MANUEL

    It is not right to penalize the rich by raising taxes because they are successful however for the good of the country it is necessary just for the next four years, remember that the military personnel are sacrificing their life so you can be free so a little be of money won't hurt you.

    November 7, 2012 09:06 pm at 9:06 pm |
  13. Donkey Party

    If the GOP wants to continue to hold the country hostage, it will only hasten their journey to extinction. The President has a mandate by the American people, it's up to the GOP to work with the President, or this time they will clearly be the ones who refuse to work across the aisle.

    November 7, 2012 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  14. Pete

    Remember Boehner you're the ones with your backs against the wall .It's Pres.Obamas last rodeo and he won't mind taking you,Cantor and McConnell all down with the rest of you racist republicans before he leaves office,that just might be his plan so be careful you know he's hanging around getting advise from Bill so take heed boys the new sheriffs in town..I really like to see it because of you holding the people of America hostage for the previous years with jobs,infastructure bills filibustered and vets job bills as well as farmers drought assistence help just left to rot on your republicans desks,its time guys to pay the piper and maybe Pres.Obama with our assistance can help it get done in two years,wouldn't it be nice seeing you all going home for good ,nothing would make me more happy from a democrate that hates republicans with a vengence because of their racism and ignorence,its their MO and they won't change it so maybe we'll do it for em!!

    November 7, 2012 09:16 pm at 9:16 pm |
  15. RudyG

    BOTH sides need to compromise! The president does not have a mandate to ramrod everything through. He did not have a landslide by a long shot. Almost half the country voted against him. As for Boehner, it's time for him to put the undermining, little Tea Partiers back in their place. All they've caused is losses for their party, and headaches for the country. Both need to LEAD.

    November 7, 2012 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm |
  16. Former Republican, now an Independent

    Boehner and McConnel still believe their political agenda is more important than the American people. "Politics over people" remains their motto!

    November 7, 2012 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm |
  17. GonzoinHouston

    The Speaker's primary motivation is to hang onto his gavel, and to do that he's taking his orders from the Tea Party and Grover Norquist. Here's a weird idea: the Demmies agree to vote for Boehner to be Speaker for as long as the GOP controls the House; in exchange, Boehner agrees to break with the Tea Party.

    November 7, 2012 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm |
  18. judy

    In his gambit Boehner is telling President Obama. U won the election, but we republicans run the House and we are going to thwart every step u make. We are going to be a thorn on your side. Boehner better play fair and not try to stop progress because he didnt get his way. He better remember that just like all those elected he is a public servant and he can be removed by We the People. He better not even try, like they did the last time. They stopped the Jobs Bill that President Obama tried to get them to pass and use that in the election to say that Obama was the cause for the high unemployment rate when it was the republicans fault. It won't work this time. We are tired of their games.

    November 7, 2012 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm |
  19. Bill

    If the GOP fails to move more to the middle, and continues to cause our economic problems, they will be voted out by the NEW MAJORITY in 2 years !! You can take that to the bank !!

    November 7, 2012 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  20. J.V.Hodgson

    Here we go again Boehner unpaid for tax cuts ( Romney plan rejected by voters) on a wing and a prayer that they lead to economic growth and pay for themselves... if we were in clear economic growth globally might be worth the risk.
    Me, Boehner gets corporate tax cut to 28% paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes and stopping corporate tax breaks. The quid pro quo is over 250 K income tax plans are agreed along with AJA outstanding items. This latter CBO says pays for itself adds 1.9m jobs and GDP grows and is deficit/ debt neutral.
    Yes we can and must look at spending and try again for the $ 1.2 tr = 120 Bn pa but repealing health care, no ( improving it OK) not a source look elsewhere and defense remains on the agenda.
    Do all that and we can then sit down after the 2013 budget is passed and try to look at the longer term strategic fixes and further growth generating tax cuts/ tax reform as a whole. We cant wait 2 years to try and figure Tax reform now as we fall off the fiscal cliff before its agreed.
    Regards,
    Hodgson

    November 7, 2012 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm |
  21. Thinking Texan

    Act one: election 2008
    Act two: election 2012
    Act three: Tea Party Suicide march to the fiscal cliff in search of heaven in Republistan.

    November 8, 2012 01:15 am at 1:15 am |
  22. Thomas

    Three days ago Boehner was campaigning saying he was positive Romney would carry Ohio .

    It's time for this man to understand the meaning of the word CHANG .

    November 8, 2012 01:23 am at 1:23 am |
  23. raj

    mr.president must use his power and run over boehner and house republicans if in case they dont agree to raise tax on wealthy. it is time to direct and dictate.

    November 8, 2012 01:54 am at 1:54 am |
  24. Gregory M, Newbold

    I encourage the President to use some leftover camapign money to run some ads in Kentucky & Cincinnati that paint McConnell & Boehner as opposition to the Grand Bargin. If he doesn`t have the money, then he should find it.

    It is a mistake to give the GOP any wiggle room. Take the gloves off, Mr. President . . . or at leastput an iron fist in a velvet glove. Negotiate from your position of strength.

    November 8, 2012 02:25 am at 2:25 am |
  25. Kevin

    Elections have consequences if the GOP doesn't work with the president the entire country will see them as the greedy self serving hypocrites they really are. Their plan to wreck this economy and blame it on president Obama to gain power failed miserably. If I were the president I would take it to them tooth and nail.

    November 8, 2012 04:26 am at 4:26 am |
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