Rick Perry doesn't support secession petition on White House website
November 13th, 2012
10:28 AM ET
6 years ago

Rick Perry doesn't support secession petition on White House website

(CNN) – An appeal calling on the federal government to allow Texas to "withdraw from the United States of America" following President Barack Obama's re-election doesn't have the support of the Lone Star State's governor, his office said in a statement Tuesday.

"Gov. [Rick] Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it," his press secretary Catherine Frazier wrote in a statement. "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government."

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The petition, which had received nearly 65,000 signatures by mid-morning Tuesday, cites continuing "economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending" as the reason for the proposed secession.

"Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government," asserts the petition, which appears on a section of the White House website called "We the People: Your Voice in our Government."

The section was designed to allow citizens to voice their concerns and desires for the federal government, and stipulates that if a petition gets enough support, "White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response."

The threshold for eliciting a White House response is 25,000 signatures within 30 days, meaning the Texas secession appeal has surpassed the requirements for official administration comment. None has yet been forthcoming.

The fine print notes the White House "may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition."

A host of other states have similar petitions on the "We the People" section of the White House website, including South Dakota, West Virginia, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Alaska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming, California, Ohio, New York, Delaware, Nevada and Arizona.

None of those petitions were close to the 25,000-signature requirement for a White House comment.

Other petitions on the website take the opposite tack: an appeal to "strip the citizenship from everyone who signed a petition to secede and exile them" had just over 1,000 signatures on Tuesday.

While Perry's statement Tuesday pushed back against a possible move to secede, the Lone Star governor has expressed support for such a shift in the past.

Speaking to an energetic and angry tea party crowd in Austin in 2009, Perry suggested secession may happen in the future should the federal government not change its fiscal polices.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

During his run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, Perry clarified that he never used the word "secession."

Texas, America's second biggest state in area and population, was its own nation for 10 years before joining the United States in 1845.

In the statement from Perry's office Tuesday, Texas is held an example for the rest of the nation for its fiscal responsibility.

"Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper," the statement read.

CNN's Alex Mooney contributed to this report.

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soundoff (127 Responses)
  1. John Smith

    This petition needs to be nipped in the bud by both the Texas sate government and the Federal government. A civil war was fought over this right of states to leave the Union and guess what, the traitors lost. The last I heard it is a crime to incite a resurrection. Same goes with those states that voted for marijuana. States can only pass laws that add to the federal government laws, not take from, and the law of the land is that pot is illegal. The fed needs to enforce the laws on the books, same as the illegal alien laws.

    November 13, 2012 11:10 am at 11:10 am |
  2. Larry L

    My relatives fought with Sam Houston and I'm deeply ashamed of those Texans so cowardly and un-American to suggest leaving the United States. We would become a third world nation in ten years. We'd have no military, no Social Security system, no Medicare, no federal highway system, no border protection, no State Department, no environmental protection, no currancy, no CDC, no FDA, no USDA, no FEMA, and no federal welfare system. How balanced would our budget be when the State tries to provide those services?

    November 13, 2012 11:10 am at 11:10 am |
  3. Rebecca

    Self Deportation is a viable option. The down side for the country is that if everybody who opposes Obama left, who would support the country and all those free handouts? Certainly not the majority of people who voted for the free handouts!

    November 13, 2012 11:10 am at 11:10 am |
  4. Big Tex

    It is amazing how the Dem pulled the wool over your eyes, you'll see in the next 4 years, when most small business close up shop, all big business moves over sea's and for the companies that stay here will only hire you part time, so they do not have to deal with obamacare.

    Not to mention, Texas is the largest producer of Crude oil, remember that when you are sitting in long lines trying to get gas, then who will be begging for free trade with Texas,.

    Don't worry about the borders, we will handle it our own way.....not like the community leader you elected. We will take care of our own and if you don't like it "Facts don't lie"–get the hell out, go find a job where you came from....

    November 13, 2012 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  5. The Real Tom Paine


    I believe when the government is a threat "We the People" should have the right to voice our displeasure and take whatever means is necessary to take action without reprisal of those with a different opinion. Is what people do not realize is the government has "dumbed" down the effects of Obama care. None of the people that respond and comment have ever read it. For instance all the Union Workers, did you know that because your employer pays 100% of your health and welfare benefits starting in 2018 you have to pay a 40% "tax" on what your employer pays. So if your employer pays $20,000.00 for your health and welfare benefits you will have an additional $8,000.00 tax. You will see this being set up this year because your employer is required to begin reporting the amount on your W2. Before you deny this fact actually read it! That is the problem PEOPLE are not reading it and the news media is playing it down, I am sure that is on order from the Whitehouse. There are so many more suprises in Obamacare that you will not know unless you read it. I am proud of the people who are screaming for secession, they will not drink the cool aid and they are voicing their opinion, as we all still have a right to do, as of today anyway.
    Point to exact spot in the bill, cite the page number, before you make such an asinine claim again. Based on your spelling and your grammar, I doubt you could read a traffic ticket, much less the ACA: by the way, its constitutional and its the law of the land. Deal with it before you start talking about committing treason against the country that allows you more freedom than any other place on earth.

    November 13, 2012 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  6. llydapdicter

    You people make me laugh, asking what texas would do without federal funding. The article stated that the state has the 15th!!! largest economy in the WORLD. Not the US but THE WORLD. I'm sure they could find money for what all they need.

    November 13, 2012 11:13 am at 11:13 am |
  7. Not here

    When the going gets tough, the cowards will run...

    November 13, 2012 11:15 am at 11:15 am |
  8. Jack

    65,000 signatures. I think that's the number of old white men in TX.

    November 13, 2012 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  9. Name

    JD yep I'm blasting tht 65 and this is directed to those to show just how stupid they are. As far as stimulus Tx helped fund I will research that. If u don't get the point your Gov decried that Stimulus going to rallies demonizing it when anybody with half a bran knows during a recession you have to stimulate the econony i mean u love capitalism right gotta spend money to make money but he helped fuel those 65 while taking credit for balancing a budget off of stimulus money...Demand that your Governor invest in your poor educational syatem...

    November 13, 2012 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  10. dabchick

    Texas – don't let the door hit you on your way out. Your former governor(W) was soooo inept & unqualified to serve we're still struggling with his mess!! Good riddance!

    November 13, 2012 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  11. Rudy NYC

    Gov. Rick Perry has only himself to blame for petition for Texas to secede. He was proudly promoting the idea 4 years ago. Oops! Did he forget?

    November 13, 2012 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  12. Walt14

    Anyone criticizing Obamacare needs to get the facts from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office analysis rather than just quote Republican scare lines–please check Ezra Klein – CBO: Health-care reform bill cuts deficit by $1.3 trillion over 20 years, covers 95%.

    November 13, 2012 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  13. Oh ho

    How ironic that Texas wants to secede. Last time I checked it was there native son President that cause this financial mess and trillions of dollars in deficit that they are now pissed off about. Can't wait for these fools Grand Obstructionist party and their tea party side kick to just disappear off the political map. America will be better .

    November 13, 2012 11:20 am at 11:20 am |
  14. Dominican mama 4 Obama

    Well of course he wouldn't.
    Isn't there a fire burning somewhere in the Texas brush?
    Can you say "federal drain, er, aid"?

    November 13, 2012 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  15. Alain Ciphat

    Dear Texas,

    Try spending a large portion of your budget on defense, and you will soon find that you will not have a balanced budget. Also note that a significant portion of your economy is fueled by national defense spending in your state. Take that away and your standard of living will decrease.

    Finally, you will need all those troop and weapons to fend off Mexico as well as the rest of the United States. Start manning your borders Texas; Good Luck to ya.

    P.S.: go see the movie Lincoln to understand what happened the last time some idiots from where you live tried this.

    November 13, 2012 11:23 am at 11:23 am |
  16. john

    nationwide, texas accounts for 22% of all US oil

    November 13, 2012 11:24 am at 11:24 am |
  17. Geswho

    Texans pay in more than we get back. For every $1.00 we pay in we get back $.91 back. One of the VERY FEW states that get back less than we pay in. I assure u if we were on our own. The taxes we pay in would handle our expenses. We have our ports. We have our military bases. We have 25 million citizens. We would be fine. Maybe some of y'all should read and get educated before you spout off about how we would fare. Learn your history. And some Texas history for that matter.

    November 13, 2012 11:25 am at 11:25 am |
  18. Worried oilfield wife

    Im proud to be a Texan! Everyone has a right to their own opinion and yes im worried about what this might cause but id be more worried if we followed the rest of the U.S and went under with them because we didnt stand up for what we believe in and try to fix the issues the government has caused! And if we fail, atleast we tried to do something instead of sitting on the sidelines judging and doing nothing.

    November 13, 2012 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  19. PattyFromTexas

    I would just like to say this is a terrible idea. A horrible terrible idea. The US government would never in a million years grant a peaceful secession. This is an idea that if acted upon would only lead to bloodshed. My question to those of you who have signed this petition, is have you really considered the consequences such an act would have

    November 13, 2012 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  20. Jack

    This is what children do. "My team didn't win so I'm not playing anymore." And they storm off in a huff. Grow up.

    November 13, 2012 11:33 am at 11:33 am |
  21. mary meyers

    Bye Texas; don't let the door hit you in the ass

    November 13, 2012 11:36 am at 11:36 am |
  22. Somebody Intelligent

    I think we should cede Texas back to Mexico.

    November 13, 2012 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  23. Smikal

    Secession is treason. It's that simple. Moreover, this is just right wing crying.

    November 13, 2012 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  24. Rudy NYC


    Most people there probably fear the Latinos taking over Texas and we have all seen how bad the Latino countries manage their affairs, how bad people live, how they have no regard for the laws and they fear Texas will become another Latino country atmosphere.
    Brilliant. Secede from the US, because you're afraid of Latinos, and leave yourself undefended along the Mexican border that Texas claims it cannot defend without help from DC. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

    The election proved that most voters are more afraid of the right wing than they are afraid of Pres. Obama.

    November 13, 2012 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  25. migeli

    There's something a little strange about this Romney guy.Yuk, yuk,yuk,yuk,yuk!

    November 13, 2012 11:43 am at 11:43 am |
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