Insults fly as fiscal talks spark familiar disputes; Obama details emerge
November 29th, 2012
11:50 AM ET
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Insults fly as fiscal talks spark familiar disputes; Obama details emerge

Washington (CNN) - After two years of endless debate and a national election, Democrats and Republicans on Thursday found themselves right where they started - blaming each other for stagnant negotiations on taxes and government spending.

House Speaker John Boehner declared himself disappointed that "no substantive progress" has occurred in two weeks of talks, saying Republicans were waiting for the White House to propose significant spending cuts.


Filed under: Fiscal Cliff • John Boehner
soundoff (55 Responses)
  1. Al-NY,NY

    scared of Grover there Tan Man???

    November 29, 2012 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm |
  2. 2hheels2

    Boehner is a coward, They are afraid to put the numbers on the table for medicare. They want something but don't want to say what they want to cut. The House has cost the USA billions from interest rates from raising the debt. They have wasted millions with putting votes on the floor to get rid of the ACA. They say they are a fiscal party yet waste of 30 million a day when they are at work. Americans should require our wasted tax money back. When the finally do come to work they just create havoc and not much more. Something must be done to the republican party to make it responsible for the wasted money.

    November 29, 2012 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  3. david

    Than let the tax cuts expire for everyone!!!!!
    The republicans will be to blame for holding the middle class hostage for the wealthy!!!

    November 29, 2012 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  4. Common sense grandma

    No problem, Speaker Boehner. The next cliff danger is coming up in 2014. You lost seats in the House and the Senate this time around, but it might be nothing compared to the next mid-term elections. I think I am not alone when I say WE are tired of the obstructionist tactics.

    November 29, 2012 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm |
  5. Martha in CF

    Mr Boehner--Why is there not any new talks on an important issue such as this?????? Get er done.......

    November 29, 2012 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  6. rs

    I wonder why? The "Party of no!" inaction, perchance?

    November 29, 2012 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  7. david

    What is it these republicans don't get....
    Obama was reelected because of his vision and raise taxes on the rich!
    Polls show that majority wants taxes raised on the rich...
    The republicans have put a norquest pledge before the pledge to the UNITED STATES!!!!!

    November 29, 2012 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  8. Lionel

    I can't believe the republicans are playing this game again. These guys should be voted out of office.

    November 29, 2012 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  9. david

    I can' t wait till 2014. These republicans will be voted out office!!!!

    November 29, 2012 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  10. Billy

    The Speaker constantly talks about the need to reform the"entitlement" programs. Would Mr. Speaker please tell me what the "entitlement" programs are? Does his pension program fall under the 'entitlement' umbrella?

    November 29, 2012 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm |
  11. robert jay

    I agree with alot of people -let the tax cust all expire – then everyone will be absolutely sure of the republican adjenda – hurt the poor and middle class for the sake of the wealthy – should be in time for the next house and senate elections too – won't that be fun for the working class!

    November 29, 2012 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm |
  12. PJ

    Listened to Boehner, and nothing has changed. He said he doesn't want "to get into details", he used his one-line
    zingers to the President "we don't need a victory lap"..., he sounds up one day, then is smacked down the next
    and changes his story. The Republicans are just as contentious as they ever were, so here we go, again.

    November 29, 2012 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  13. lolo

    They are just a sorry bunch of old men who think that they rule. McCain is still mad because he lost and the rest of the clowns can't get over the fact that we have an African-American president. 2014 can't get here fast enough. People just go vote come mid-terms and get these nuts out of the house period. Vote Democrat or Independent all the way. I guess the American people can show them better than we can tell them. They definitely are not listening.

    November 29, 2012 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  14. Rudy NYC

    What Boehner is really saying is that Pres. Obama is standing firm on his position of eliminating tax cuts for the upper income brackets.

    November 29, 2012 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  15. CaliforniaBC

    Just heard on NPR that Boehner here laid blame on the WH again for not giving in on anything. I find it rather amusing how the Tan Man always claims HE and the Republicans give and give but are held up by the Democrats or Obama when virtually everyone in the US has been witness to the GOP's "our way or the highway" mentality.

    Even amidst the sound election loss and rejection of THEIR policy ideas, the GOP continues to puff out their chests and claim their plans are the only ones that work. We've seen that they don't work and the American people made their decision.... they want the Democrats' plan for reducing debt.

    Stop the childish behavior and let's get things moving.

    November 29, 2012 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  16. just sayin

    how can you make progress when obama is still on the campaign trail spewing his endless class warfare drivel? and he hasn't disclosed any of his cuts to spending. if he wants to raise taxes by $80 billion on the rich then he needs to come up with $200 billion in cuts to current spending. so far he has come up with nothing. he has no idea what the word leader means.

    November 29, 2012 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
  17. Yonni

    Isn't substantive progress against GOP interest? Hence, no opportunity for grand standing and showcasing the filibuster capacity of the GOP. Just give it a rest Obama is already the president for his last term the chance to make him one termer is gone.

    November 29, 2012 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
  18. david

    the fiscal cliif is just a myth!
    Trying to scare the people for changes to come!!!
    Everyone knows their won't be a recession...we can afford it!
    and the defense can afford some more cuts! hell, roll back the wars and there are your cuts...

    November 29, 2012 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
  19. rs

    At some point, we, the citizens of the United States will need to deal with a very radicalized group representing a very narrow and dangerous set of sub-cultures in America, operating openly in our midst, their representatives have sworn allegiance to another authority (beyond the U.S. Constitution); and is holding hostage our economic recovery-perhaps our very livelihoods. I am speaking of the Republican Party. At some point, merely voting them out of office may be insufficient, and perhaps too slow to prevent them from doing even greater damage. Their destructive, destabalizing, anti-American behavior may require some sort of legal action. They are playing games with our future, and are not in any way serious about helping our nation, or the vast majority of the citizenry. They are on their way to becoming conomic terrorists pure and simple. As a nation, we do not and should not negoriate with terrorists.

    November 29, 2012 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  20. GOP = Greed Over People

    8 seats gained in 2012, means Dema only need to pick up 17 in 2014 to regain House control

    So, stay in the Fox echo chamber until 2014 and just paint GOP clown car a shiny, bright new color, and drive it head on
    into the same wall of reality it hit in 2012!

    November 29, 2012 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  21. GI Joe

    Stocks took a nose-dive when he gave his gloom and doom speech. Shame on him.

    November 29, 2012 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  22. just sayin

    >Just heard on NPR that Boehner here laid blame on the WH again for not giving in on anything.

    where is the $200 billion in current budget cuts obama has promised if republicans agree to raise taxes on the rich??? nothing has been put on the table. obama has come to a negotiation with nothing in hand. all he has are his class warafre demands. that is not a negotiation. he is as clueless as ever.

    November 29, 2012 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  23. david

    Bottom line Republicans... the president doesn't have to do anything!!!
    They win either why...all taxes go up!
    The question is, do the repubs want to pass the senate bill to keep taxes from going up for the middle class!!!
    The repubs are cornered!!!! Check-Mate!!!!

    November 29, 2012 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  24. GI Joe

    Wars and tax cuts got us in this mess – why do seniors have to pay to get us out? The wealthy profited from the war – seniors lost their kids and grand-kids. Somehow lopsided, don't you think?

    November 29, 2012 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  25. Malory Archer

    Allow me to translate: President Obama reminded the speaker of HIS OWN CLAIM that he got 98% of what he wanted from the President, and advised him that it's time for him to compromise and give a little back. It’s common knowledge the speaker has no intention of doing so, and uses his unwillingness to work with the President as an excuse to claim "no substantive progress".

    November 29, 2012 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
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