December 2nd, 2012
11:25 AM ET
1 year ago

Boehner ‘flabbergasted’ at fiscal cliff proposal

(CNN) - House Speaker John Boehner painted a bleak picture Sunday when talking about fiscal cliff negotiations between the White House and Republicans.

"Right now I would say we're nowhere. Period. We're nowhere. We've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved, but the White House has responded with virtually nothing," Boehner said on "Fox News Sunday."

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Boehner said the reason negotiations are going so poorly is that Obama administration officials - in particular, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner - aren't taking Republicans seriously. Boehner said he was shocked at Geithner's proposal to Republicans last week.

"I was flabbergasted. I looked at him and I said, 'You can't be serious.' I've just never seen anything like it," Boehner said.

Geithner has said his plan included cuts to Medicare and additional stimulus spending, but also an expiration of Bush-era tax cuts to those making over $250,000 a year. Furthermore, the proposal included the closing of some loopholes and new limits on deductions, as well as an increase in the estate tax rate and taxes on capital gains and dividends.

Boehner acknowledged that President Barack Obama won the election on a platform that in part was based on increasing taxes for those making over $250,000. This is a major sticking point in negotiations, and Boehner said the president must compromise with the GOP.

"They won the election, (but) they must have forgotten that Republicans continue to hold the majority in the House. But the president's idea of a negotiation is, 'Roll over and do what I ask,'" Boehner said.

While Boehner admitted that going over the fiscal cliff would be detrimental to the economy, he said out-of-control spending is mortgaging the future of the next generation and must be reined in. Accordingly, the speaker said going over that cliff is a distinct possibility.

"I'm determined to solve our debt problem. We have a serious debt problem and it is going to be dealt with," Boehner said.


Filed under: Fiscal Cliff • John Boehner • President Obama
soundoff (905 Responses)
  1. Andrew

    Hey; I'm sick of Borhner and his support of the top two percent filthy rich. We just voted dang it – voted the top two percent MUST PAY, we did! It's been voted up and they lost! God; what a bunch of holding out greedy freaks! It's already settled, you moronic brick wall hard-heads republicans in total denial of reality! It DOES NOT matter what the rich white boys at FOX NEWS wants – they LOST! The majority of 350 million people DO NOT CARE what the Fox News freak newcasters want! Here's what I demand: I want Boehner to sign off on what the President of the United States wants! Boehner is a Texas republican who wants to bail out of America! He's a traitor who hates the United States like the Taliban do! Who cares what the hell such a degenerate pin-head wants? I don't care what Boehner desires! What is this anyway, some republican pretend fantasy that people like them? People DESPISE them!

    December 2, 2012 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm |
  2. JW

    Please someone explain why Simpson-Bowles can't get enough support to pass. It seems that neither party is very serious about simplifying the tax code while raising revenues AND cutting expenditures.

    December 2, 2012 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm |
  3. JUD

    Even taking more money from those who make it won't dent the defecit or debt. Taxing the wealthiest at 100% wouldn't cover our yearly defecit under Obama. The only answer is getting spending under control. Keep taking from others through force isn't the answer.

    December 2, 2012 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm |
  4. Norm

    Out Of Touch, maybe next time out of office.

    December 2, 2012 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm |
  5. jcr

    He's flabbergasted? Spare us the fake indignation, Boehner. The WH isn't starting the negotiation from the middle this time. They're starting further to the left because they know it'll end up closer to the middle. So, just cancel the Bush-era cuts on the wealthy and let's get on with it. Wow.

    December 2, 2012 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm |
  6. Skeptic

    A lot of posturing by a sore loser.

    December 2, 2012 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm |
  7. Gary Wilson

    This Ohio voter is going to make Mr Boehner go bye bye this next election,

    December 2, 2012 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm |
  8. Daveinal

    Did any of you people actually see Obama's proposal? I think you're all just mimicking the (liberal) media. Do any of you lefties think for yourselves?

    December 2, 2012 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm |
  9. Riley

    How in the world did Obama get reelected? Are the voters nutz?

    December 2, 2012 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm |
  10. Rememberwhatbushdid

    Speaker Boehner is "flabbergasted" because he just doesn't get it. "IT" is what the American people and Obama want. NOT what he wants. Well...enjoy your final two years as Speaker.

    December 2, 2012 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm |
  11. Message for GOP

    Tick, Tock - Niether the White House nor the Senate need to do a thing to assist you.... The time of the 13% rate for the carried interest is over.

    December 2, 2012 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm |
  12. Bob

    Bonehead is flabbergasted? Because Obama and an overwhelming majority of Americans want to go back to taxing the rich the way we used to? And instead he wants to take more away from the poor, the needy and the middle class to help bring down the deficit? I think Obama and the Democrats in Congress should call for a national referendum on restoring taxes for the rich to what they were before Reagan and Bush repealed them. I am inclined to think most of the current crop of banana Republicans would be flabbergasted by the outcome.

    December 2, 2012 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm |
  13. Gregory

    "Our number one political priority is to make Obama a one term president." Mitch McConnell.

    How do you negotiate with republicans like this?

    Let the tax cuts expire. It isn't as if they ever created all the jobs Bush said they would create.

    December 2, 2012 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm |
  14. hozo1

    apparently they forgot the election results ... bought and paid for ... wait until the mid-year elections when we vote more of you out

    December 2, 2012 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm |
  15. Bayley0402

    Boehner, you have always been nowhere. I see that republican obstructionism is still alive and well. What are you aiming for now, to make sure that Obama is only a two term president??? Don't you think that you have wasted enough time? The republicans should get off their high horse and do something positive for the country? Or is that too much to ask?

    December 2, 2012 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm |
  16. upwardquest

    Boehner is up to his same old tricks, but this time they won't work. President Obama is on the right track and deserves out support.

    December 2, 2012 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm |
  17. Kim

    Does he think we are stupid
    You lost for a reason,
    Get out of the way!!

    December 2, 2012 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm |
  18. Narendra Bansal

    Why there was not any fiscal cliff in Clinton's era. What is different today? Or this is only a trick of republicans.

    December 2, 2012 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm |
  19. Brian

    The rich elite mortgaged are future when they spent decades frauding up Wall Street, making bad banking investments, and paying the CEO,s unnecessarily exorbitant salaries at the expense of the middle class. Now they want the middle class to clean up their ruined economy by cutting our programs and support. Why don't they take a bit of the advice they constantly throw our way and take responsibility for your actions. You guys caused this mess, now take responsibility for it by having your taxes put back (not raised) to the Clinton levels.

    December 2, 2012 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm |
  20. Truthful

    The Majority of Americans that did vote for Tax Hikes, because they are predominantly the ones who pay the least in Taxes or no taxes at all, because they don't understand that the 1% Rich are the ones who own the very companies who hire Employees like the Obama Voters who are unemployed that we need to invest in their Companies to expand, and hire more Americans to improve the economy instead of our government taxing the Hell out of them. Forget about Warren Buffet whose Riches are safe and sound that will never will be taxed....Taxes are paid on income, and earnings, not Wealth already attained. Thank you Black and Hispanic Voters for being Racists voting for the Skin Color of your Bi-Racial President who the Media and your narrow-minded view that he's a Black President. Right now we need Fiscal Sanity to reduce our Deficit curbing, not stop spending. The Conservative White Leader of the GOP...Not Romney, but Lincoln took the Chains off Black People Mr. Biden, and it was another Republican, Martin Luther King Jnr. who got the Kennedy's to bring you Civil Rights in spite of the Democratic Party through out the History of this great Nation of ours who wanted to put you back in Chains....History has repeated itself as it always seems to do with Obama, and the Democrats who have put Blacks at almost 20% Unemployment in the Chains of virtual poverty with Obama's Socialist Government to take care of them along with Poor Whites, and Hispanics.

    December 2, 2012 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm |
  21. Truthful

    Thank you Black and Hispanic Voters for being Racists voting for the Skin Color of your Bi-Racial President who the Media and your narrow-minded view that he's a Black President. Right now we need Fiscal Sanity to reduce our Deficit curbing, not stop spending. The Conservative White Leader of the GOP...Not Romney, but Lincoln took the Chains off Black People Mr. Biden, and it was another Republican, Martin Luther King Jnr. who got the Kennedy's to bring you Civil Rights in spite of the Democratic Party through out the History of this great Nation of ours who wanted to put you back in Chains....History has repeated itself as it always seems to do with Obama, and the Democrats who have put Blacks at almost 20% Unemployment in the Chains of virtual poverty with Obama's Socialist Government to take care of them along with Poor Whites, and Hispanics.

    December 2, 2012 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  22. SafeJourney

    Well, if America goes over the financial cliff, the repubs will get the blame and will be voted out of office in 2014.

    December 2, 2012 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm |
  23. stwebb

    I'm just relieved that somebody in DC is flabbergasted!!!

    December 2, 2012 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm |
  24. chuck smail

    i really like the comments i just read. these gop that are supposed to help us out are only concern with there own self
    interst. they are not concerned with the usa unless it is making money for them or the people they work for. thats what really hurts, they are supposed to be working with us to create a stronger america......

    December 2, 2012 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm |
  25. Sarah

    Isn't Boehner and the other members of the house supposed to uphold the interest of the nation? Didn't the majority of the nation prove on election day that they want this thing passed as the President has proposed? Is it possible to impeach the house?

    December 3, 2012 12:06 am at 12:06 am |
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