Washington (CNN) - President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner spoke on the phone Wednesday afternoon, according to a source familiar with the call.
The conversation, the first between the two in a week, did not result in a breakthrough in the ongoing "fiscal cliff" stalemate.
According to one source familiar with the conversation, Republicans have not agreed to move on tax rate increases for the top 2% of income earners, a point the Obama administration considers non-negotiable.
Compromise or negotiations are not the point right now......the name of the current game is on-up-manship! POLITICAL GAIN!
Hard decisions come one to one! All the posturing happens before the camera. Politics as usual in the USA!
Obama has been running all over the country demanding Republicans pass a bill to make the Bush tax cuts for the middle class permanant now and quit holding the middle class hostage trying to protect the rich. Today Pelosi called for the same thing. Yet today I read an ABC new story that Obama says he would reject a possible Republicans doomsday plan to just pass the middle class tax cuts is if a larger deal can not be made. How crazy can he get. That is exactly what he has been demanding.
If Republicans did pass a last minuet bill to make the Bush tax cuts for only the middle class permanant, it is hard to believe Senate Democrats who would want to be re-elected, would vote no. The bill would pass the Senate and Obama would have to veto it. Is that how bad Obama wants to go over the cliff? Who's your friend middle class? Not Obama. Frankly every fool who voted for Obama in 2012, rich, poor or middle class should have their taxes go up. Does not work that way though. Actually if the Bush tax cuts do expire only 53% of Americans will have their taxes go up. 47% of Americans do not pay any income tax, some pay payroll taxes. But the Bush tax cuts do not include a payroll tax cut, just income taxes, so the 47% have no skin in the game one way or the other regarding the Bush tax cuts.
"Yet today I read an ABC new story that Obama says he would reject a possible Republicans doomsday plan to just pass the middle class tax cuts is if a larger deal can not be made. How crazy can he get."
It's not crazy whatsoever. If the GOP fails to get reasonable, Obama holds all the cards. ALL tax rates go back up on 12.31.12. Then, all the Dems and Obama have to do is propose returning the tax cuts to the middle-class only. How much fun do you think Boehner and the Banana Bunch are going to have trying to oppose that? What you're arguing is taht the GOP shoudl be allowed to offer Obama somethign he already essentially has. THAT is crazy. They need to get serious instead of trying to find a way around the Norquist pledges and expecting the Dems to help them out on that. They created their own problem on that one and NOBODY owes them any help with it at all.
MIKE: FYI, senate already passed the bill to make middle class tax cut permanent. Obama demanded house to do the same and he will sign.
My suggestion: stop twisting your mind.
LOL – funny post there, CNN – – If I were to guess – I would say Obama told him to go home & enjoy the holidays with his family, and said come back next year , when you can negotiate – and inform the bonehead that he'd better take what we have to offer – otherwise him and his party will be out in 2014 -
The bill to make the tax cuts permanent has a ALREADY passed the Senate. This deal has been there for months. It is Boner that refuses to bring it to the floor that why Pelosi is circulating the petition.........Try to keep up
Of course it was by Phone – Obama does all his duties by phone – doesn't matter if you are a world leader, business ceo or congressman. For some reason he is afraid to meet real leaders in person – could it be he's insecure?
Our president wants us all to go over the cliff so he can blame the GOP. The media will play along like the lapdogs that they are. This country is in big trouble.
If a deal is reached, you can bet it will be in the 11th hour. Until then everyone's going beat their chest in hopes that they can expose weaknesses on the other side.
I read an ABC new story that Obama says he would reject a possible Republicans doomsday plan to just pass the middle class tax cuts is if a larger deal can not be made.
The Senate has already passed just such a deal, and the President supports it but Bonehead refuses to vote for it.
Any Doomsday plan of the GOP is just more Romney-Ryan-lyin elephant dung that the American people just rejected.
Evidently some folks don't listen and never learn.
Lets hope the doctors come up with a cure before the patient dies. do something before its terminal. the country spoke on nov, 6th and demands action
Stand your ground Mr. President.
Make the house weeper cry!
We have to vote the baggers out in 2014. Get rid of every last crazy person that the Kochs and Rove support.
Why does the rich get to use and abuse America? Fill they they are "entitled" to all these tax breaks and loopholes? Think their special just because they have a little money in the bank or "connections"? Enough already if you live here then help pay for it, if you don't want to help you have YOUR freedom to leave and of course if you have the money you say you do it should be no problem. More likely most are in debt up to their eyeballs and trying to keep up with the joneses.
TEAPARTY MIKE: What are you talking about, son? Make tax cuts for the middle class permanent? Try one more year. I don't know if you are spreading misinformation or just plain dumb. By the way, I thought you guys were gone by now.
How about no one in congress goes home for the holidays until a deal is reached?
I am sure they were both on a smoke break.
The Republican Party / T Party have been so pissed-off for President Obamas Presidency from the very start they have and will do ANYTHING to destroy this country and make the people of this country suffer at any and at all costs. Even the pesidents re-election to the W/H they will NOT stop no matter what. This is the worst congress ever in history.These people need to be thrown out of office and never to return to the political arena for good. We deserve better people in Washington who look out for our future and welfare. It's been 4 years of NO work and complete obstructionist behavior on the republicans party / T-Party and there's no stopping it. What a horrible shame these people are getting away with this and nothing is being done to stop them from anyone. This is so Un-American !
I cant understand poor republicans obsession with keeping the rich rich. The southern states are the poorest in the nation but they vote republican every election, and they stay poor.
It would have been more reassuring to hear that they are at least talking in person. Next it will be Obama's therapist is talking to Boehner's therapist.
The Republicans are in a no-win situation. Stick to your position Mr. President. The country needs your leadership more than ever before!
The POTUS should hold his stand period. It's time the T-Party and the GOP get exactly what they deserve. They need to be completely dismanteled and thrown out of Washington period !
Ha! The Republicans are losing big time on this, and they know it. This will be done Obama's way, because that is what the people voted for. YAY, Obama/Biden!
Wait a minute. Two people talked on the phone and that is news? My goodness, I didn't realize politicians talking on the phone was that big of a deal. Will you please let us know if the text each other, mail a letter, or send an email? Is CNN really so hard up for a news story that they think reporting on phone calls is relevant?