December 11th, 2012
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Angry with Obama, GOP threatens political war next year

Washington (CNN) – They are losing the battle over higher taxes on the wealthy, so now Republicans are threatening a political war next year when it comes time to raise the nation's debt ceiling.

With cracks appearing in their anti-tax facade and polls showing most Americans favoring President Barack Obama's stance in fiscal cliff negotiations, GOP legislators are starting to advocate a tactical retreat to fight another day.

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  1. Woman In California

    Then let there be war. The republicans have baited war with the president for four years now, but have not had the courage to come out and say it. Due to their BIG loss in November, they have now come out of the closet and announced what we all knew and Lindsey Graham has openly stated they're in a fighting mood. Okay, I say let's give it to them. This is not about a tax increase on weathier Americans (that's what they want you to believe), this is about STICKING IT TO THE PRESIDENT IN THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN. They're a disgraceful pack of pigs, who want to roll over and over in the mud to get revenge and we need to throw them out for the good of the country. We cannot allow them to hold this country hostage again and we need to send that message loud and clear, that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated this time around.

    December 11, 2012 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  2. anonymous

    Here's a solution : pass a law that – once a person turns 18 – then they automatically get medicare / AND Social Security – ( This would be Mandatory) BUT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK – IF THEY DO – Then it's an automatic FELONY – ( ths means Jail sentence til they reach 55 ) THEN – Once that person gets to be 55 yrs. old – THEY ARE FORCED TO WORK TIL THEY DIE, no IFF's or Butts about it. and if they need hospital care while they are working, then it would come out of their paycheck(s) (for life, if it has to)

    December 11, 2012 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  3. Rick McDaniel

    This country has been taken over by a dictator, and until that dictator is deposed, one way or another, things will NOT improve, in America.

    December 11, 2012 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  4. Data Driven

    In the article, Lindsay "The Closet" Graham whines about the USA becoming "like Greece". He sounds remarkably like some of the GOPhers who post here.

    Hey, Greece experts: who's the President of Greece? What's the percentage rate that Greece is paying on its debt? How is the Euro affecting purchasing power in Greece? How much is Greece in debt? What form of government there - parliamentarian, republican, directly democratic? What's the current GDP in Greece? What are some Greece's main exports? Can you describe how the austerity programs underway there are positively affecting Greece's economy, and why the USA should model its own policies based on that country's efforts?

    No? Then please spare us your comments on a nation you know NOTHING about.

    December 11, 2012 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  5. nceeno

    It appears that the Country has been bribed with it's own money. Raising the debt ceiling is a stupid thing to do unless you don't really care what happens to those we leave the Country to.
    When a household spends 150% of it's budget, what happens? Do they go out and borrow more and then keep spending at the same rate? No, I don;t think so. So why is it ok for the US to do the same.
    Cut spending. We waste more money than the GDP of a lot of nations.
    When the 47% becomes 50%, why work? I'll be quitting my job to take free money also. It's clear that the 47% of the country sucking funds off others doesn't consider what might happen to anyone other than themselves.
    Besides, it is clear tha the majorioty of those posting here are not smart enought o educate themselves correctly.
    Change is inevitable. Look for it in 2014, when people realize what they have done and try to correct it, OR the US will travel down a hole it might not be able to climb out of. When 50% of the country is voting to suck money out of the other 50%, how long do you think it will take before revolutions occur?
    Frankly, I think there are a lot of places wherre freedom and liberty still mean something, but not here.

    December 11, 2012 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  6. plain&simple

    When you charge something on credit,you promised to pay.....that's called being responsible. For ANYONE to suggest not to pay for what has already been charged is WRONG! IT'S called stealing!!!!

    December 11, 2012 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
  7. anonymous

    Here's a solution : pass a law that – once a person turns 18 – then they automatically get medicare / AND Social Security – ( This would be Mandatory) BUT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK – IF THEY DO – Then it's an automatic FELONY – ( ths means Jail sentence til they reach 55 ) THEN – Once that person gets to be 55 yrs. old – THEY ARE FORCED TO WORK TIL THEY DIE, no IFF's or Butts about it. and if they need hospital care while they are working, then it would come out of their paycheck(s) (for life, if it has to) – -

    December 11, 2012 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  8. MiddleAmericaMS

    Ha!

    I don't think the GOP can be at war against the Dems any more than they already have been.
    :)

    December 11, 2012 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  9. Expat American

    The mere 'continuation' of the Republican war (ongoing since 2008) = President Hillary Clinton 2016

    Elephant Tea Party War
    what is it good for?
    Absolutely nothing (but a Democratic victory in 2014 & 2016)
    Say it again

    December 11, 2012 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  10. Anthony

    Danny, the stupid Republicans want to cut revenue first, then complain that there is no money. It is like a person quitting his job, then wonder why it is harder to pay the mortgage on his house. Bad news: he has already signed the mortgage. Do you know that if the fiscal cliff arrives and there is no deal, the deficit will drop to 641 billion in 2013 according to the CBO, mostly because the Bush tax cuts will expire at the end of this year? Let Republicans explain what happens to the deficit when there are no budget-busting tax cuts.

    December 11, 2012 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
  11. freedom

    Obama's dictatorial style will not be accepted without a battle. We are still a democracy, another fact he doesn't seem to grasp. We know he wants to change that, but he won't be able to. He will do great damage to our country, yes, but he will not succeed in destroying the principles this nation was founded on and the memory of those who died, so we can have the privilege of freedom – including holding our elected officials accountable – all the way to the president, himself.

    December 11, 2012 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
  12. Yonni

    Does this mean Republicans in US congress are terrorizing America?

    December 11, 2012 11:57 am at 11:57 am |
  13. Rudy NYC

    War with Obama? Is that supposed to be a threat that scares us? The Republicans have done that for the past four years, and fully expect them to continue the practice for as long as Pres. Obama is in office.

    December 11, 2012 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  14. Yonni

    @Rick McDaniel
    "This country has been taken over by a dictator, and until that dictator is deposed, one way or another, things will NOT improve, in America."

    What is your one way or other options to depose the dictator? Can you be specific? I am curious and concerned?

    December 11, 2012 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  15. Rudy NYC

    freedom

    Obama's dictatorial style will not be accepted without a battle. We are still a democracy, another fact he doesn't seem to grasp.
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    My view is that you're addicted to extreme right wing rhetoric. You need to listen to people like Jindal and Preibus who say that this extreme rhetoric does not help the Republican Party. It helps the Democrats. Thanks, for the assist.

    December 11, 2012 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  16. Lynda/Minnesota

    Data Driven

    In the article, Lindsay "The Closet" Graham whines about the USA becoming "like Greece". He sounds remarkably like some of the GOPhers who post here.
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    GOPers quoting Lindsey Graham? Or Lindsey Graham quoting GOPers? (You are correct. They ARE remarkably alike.) Hard to tell these days who are the GOP leaders ... and who are the GOP followers.

    December 11, 2012 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  17. PJ

    So, the Dear Republicans are mad because they lost. They are planning a war against President Obama, which
    means, they are planning a war against America's recovery. If they want to punish those of us who voted for
    Obama (the majority), they are also "punishing" those who voted Republican. We will never get anywhere until
    people like McCain, McConnell, Graham, Cantor and Boehner, etc come out of their fog of hate and anger and start
    acting like mature, reasonable adults.

    December 11, 2012 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
  18. Malory Archer

    TEAPARTY MIKE

    So here is what the Republicans should propose. Agree to the tax rate increase for the rich in exchange for a set amount of spending cuts and entitlement reforms to be worked out by the end of 2013.

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    AFDC (Aid for Dependent Corporations) should be the priority cut as it would go a long way toward fixing what ails us. That combined with returning to the previous tax rates for EVERYONE would also help. My husband & I have a 6-figure income and our children are grown and on their own so we'd take a big hit, but we're intelligent enough to know that taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society. I'd also like to see capital gains taxed as regular income just like my CDs are taxed. We pay an effective federal rate of approximately 24%, yet millionaires & wealthy CEOs pay 15%.

    December 11, 2012 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  19. E. Dem

    Maybe the GOP isn't quite getting the message... Their presidential candidate lost, they've lost more seats in the Senate, AND the majority of the popular vote was for Democrats in the House, they're only hanging in there because of Gerrymandered voting districts.

    December 11, 2012 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  20. Pander Bear

    The GOP has not learned their lesson. They will continue to be blamed for the mess they got us into and playing with the debt ceiling again is downright childish. It's all about them, not about the citizens of the US.

    December 11, 2012 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
  21. Fortinbras

    Alright, we will give you those tax hikes. But if you dont let us take this defeat out on the sick, poor, and elderly, we will take it out on the entire economy next year!

    December 11, 2012 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm |
  22. marita

    PLAIN & SIMPLE has a few very good points! – Marita.

    December 11, 2012 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
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